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A Humanitarian Disaster Threatens To Unfold In Greece
Forbes ^ | June 11, 2012 | Nicos Devletoglou

Posted on 06/13/2012 6:53:06 AM PDT by C19fan

Europe owes a lot to Greece. Not least for the inspiration that it has drawn pursuing human excellence throughout history to emerge as probably the most civilized part of the world, but perhaps still more for actually remaining free to this day through its heroic stand against Germany’s unprovoked aggression during the Second World War.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: austerity; eucrisis; euro; greece; greececrisis
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Sucks when you run out of other peoples' money.
1 posted on 06/13/2012 6:53:14 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Well, as somebody who read the book “Eleni,” I have a somewhat less favorable opinion about the Greeks during WWII.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 6:55:25 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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And who will come to our aid when the Obamadork and his Clown Show of Felon/Cretins run out of our money?


3 posted on 06/13/2012 6:58:19 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: C19fan

Is there ever “provoked” aggression?


4 posted on 06/13/2012 6:58:56 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: C19fan

Greek populace.....meet the piper!!!


5 posted on 06/13/2012 7:00:06 AM PDT by ontap
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—And who will come to our aid when the Obamadork and his Clown Show of Felon/Cretins run out of our money?—

In my case, we are preppers. I think a lot of people are joining the ranks daily.

Nobody will come to our aid. It’s up to us. Kinda reminds me of the good old American spirit. ;-)


6 posted on 06/13/2012 7:00:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: BenLurkin

Zimmerman comes to mind.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 7:01:24 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: miss marmelstein

In all my days I never thought I would see anyone mention that book on here. As soon as I saw the title of the post I thought of “Eleni” and was saying, “Yeah, maybe they weren’t invaded, but they sure threw their own people under the bus.” I can remember when “Eleni” was required reading in many conservative circles.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 7:01:24 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: C19fan

—Significantly more damaging, however, is the fact that the number of Greek immigrants has nearly doubled, including the “young blood” of Greece. —

This line really confused me. I think they mean “emigrated”.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 7:03:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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The Greek tragedy is a point of great hope ... for the Cloward-Piven goons. It proves the strategy works on a national scale, so now they insist it be used on a global scale. I’m afraid only guillotines can solve such an evil mess.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 7:03:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: miss marmelstein

You are confusing them with the communists who tried to use WW II as a cover to take over in post WW II.

Remember the comunists tried to take Greece when people were at their most miserable.


11 posted on 06/13/2012 7:07:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Yes, of course, it was Greek Communists who murdered Eleni. I’m no expert on Greek history so forgive me if I get some of my facts wrong. But in my reading of the book, the horrors that befell Eleni and her family started long before the end of World War II.


12 posted on 06/13/2012 7:13:55 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: C19fan

Sucks to be them, especially when the rioting starts.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 7:15:29 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: MHGinTN

A point of information:

Greece recently had TWO immigration amnesty programs back to back to address all the illegal aliens.

That said,

you now have soup lines for the first time since WW II. You also have a generation which has no clue how to talk to their “neighbor” for help. The goverment was seen as the neighbor who provides. You have people who simply do not know how to cope.

We can be all self rightous and a few can throw stones from the porches of their glass houses, however that does not change the fact that we have real people in real need. This is not a time for “ha ha”, this is a time to remind them about how to fish.


14 posted on 06/13/2012 7:15:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Portcall24

Yes! Eleni is a brilliant book and should be required reading for everyone. I would recommend the movie to you, too. It got devastatingly poor reviews when it opened and destroyed the career of the very great stage actress, Kate Nelligan. And John Malkovich’s leading man status (!!) went down considerably. I still think the film was destroyed by the left-wing press and they black-listed Nelligan for appearing in it.


15 posted on 06/13/2012 7:18:45 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: C19fan
Leftists love to think that they hold "the moral high ground," too stupid to understand that Western Civilization, free market economics, and liberty have given the people of the world far more that is good than anything else ever devised.

The satellite images of North Korea and South Korea were not enough to convince these fools. Neither were the differences between East Germany and West Germany, the USA and the USSR, between Detroit of 1950 and Detroit of the 21st century.

Unfortunately, despite all its promises and all the good it has brought, the Information Age has empowered the scoundrels and fools of the world.

16 posted on 06/13/2012 7:19:55 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Long may our land be bright with freedom's holy light.)
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To: longtermmemmory

There is a need for some black humor on this thread. Most of us are whistling past the graveyard and scared to death of the future. At least, I am!


17 posted on 06/13/2012 7:22:56 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

To all: I am married to a Greek National - and we have both watched “Eleni” and read the book. ALL Greeks were not communists...there were conservatives who fought back during the Civil Unrest...Much of the communist activity occurred in northern Greece where children - boys and girls - were shipped off to Bulgaria and Albania to be “indoctrinated”...

I would suggest that we not paint all Greeks with a broad brush...my husband comes from a long line of Greek Conservatives (mainly from Mani and Sparta) and they were firmly against this communist incursion — and fought fiercely to put them down.


19 posted on 06/13/2012 7:24:59 AM PDT by gmp31555
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No one said all Greeks were Communists. I never said or wrote that.

I do, wonder, however, if Melina Mecouri (the original limousine communist) and her rancid little husband, Jules Dassin, aren't burning in hell over their loving support of Greek communism while dining on the boulevards of Paris and Rome...

20 posted on 06/13/2012 7:37:34 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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