Posted on 06/13/2012 6:05:21 PM PDT by Grig
Cut her some slack. If she didn’t go around posting “you lie” at all but the most virulent Willardbots, she wouldn’t have anything to post.
I cannot in good conscious vote for Mitt Romney until he personally apologizes for the Mountain Meadows massacre. /s
(Thank you, Washington Post, for the heads-up on this timely issue!)
LOL! Exactly where I fell off the log.
Grig, my granddaughter, who lives with us, will be carefully taught that polytheism and Christianity are incompatible, that the Jesus of Mormonism is that false Christ of which the true Christ warned us, that this American experiment with Gnosticism initiated by Joe Smith is the same kind of error the Apostle John warned us was coming, and to have nothing to do with it, because it is of the spirit of antichrist. See 2 John 1:10-11.
It is sad then to see you translate our sincere effort to obey the teachings of Jesus and his apostles as hatred toward you. It is not.
Let me ask you a question. What does love do for the one loved? If I see my child run into a busy street, do I calmly ignore it? Or do I go yelling after the child and give myself no rest until they are safely out of harm’s way?
What you see as hatred, we see as love. We do not want souls lost. We have seen the desolation of being lost, because at one point we ourselves were hopelessly trapped in the prison of unforgiven sin. Jesus saved us. He is the eternal God, and there is only one God who saves souls, and he will not give his glory to another. Believe me when I say, more loving words than those do not exist in this or any other language.
Name a Mormon FReeper who has even been critical at all of Mitt Romney, let alone opposed to his candidacy. I can’t think of any, despite all the proud advocacy of Prop. 8 in CA and all the support Mormons recieved for this effort here, compared and contrasted to the record of Mitt Romney. Logical disconnect. Cognitive dissonance.
“Oh, yeah, and about his casual reference to Evangelicals and Moslems being nutjobs...”
Not what I said. I said the theoretical individual would be a nutjob, not all people of that faith.
Joseph Smith was killed while he was a presidential candidate, and the mob that did it wasn’t motivated by politics but by religious intolerance. There has been some very inflammatory rhetoric from some corners of the evangelical world about having a Mormon POTUS that could incite a nutjob to violence.
I guess we will agree to disagree. I have no idea when the Romney clan arrived because this site was solidly against him. But that is ok. But there are people solidly unhappy with him being nominated like me.
I get that it has become a nightmare election so it confusing to know what to do and for some they’ll the lesser of two evils. But that doesn’t change the fact Romney has issues and problems with conservatives.
I’d Rather the tea party would just create a new party after this election season.
I gotta say, FRiend, you've totally lost me here.
First off, I don't know which FReepers are Mormon and I don't care.
Second, even if every Mormon FReeper has never been at all critical of Romney, so what? What does that have to do with this thread or anything I've posted?
Finally, you seem to be upbraiding Romney for his views with respect to gay marriage but in fact he is campaigning on the position of being totally opposed to it, and Obama has come out in favor.
So what the what?
The truth matters in every sphere and Romney is not of the truth in any way. I hope you will reconsider.
Another thing, I don't think Jesus was telling people to support Caesar. He was tacitly pointing out that the fiat tribute money used to enslave them was a violation of the second commandment:
Exodus 20
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Deuteronomy 7:25
The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therin: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.
Psalm 62
9 Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity.
10 Trust not in oppression, and become not vain in robbery: if riches increase, set not your heart upon them.
11 God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.
12 Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.
“Well then, defend Mormonism.
If I post a comparison of scripture in comparison to Mormon books and literature, tell me why I should see it as christian.”
‘Mormon books and literature’ that is pretty vague and includes a whack of stuff that is nothing but some author’s opinion and not at all binding on the church. If you want to compare against the Bible, then compare against what is in our scriptures’ I’ll be happy to converse with you on that via freepmail as long as I’m not zotted for this and as long as you give fair consideration to my replies and remain intellectually honest.
I was solidly against Romney until he won the GOP nomination, since then I have been solidly for him.
I think of it as ordering from the menu.
But that doesn’t change the fact Romney has issues and problems with conservatives.
Everyone knows this. My proposal is that we discuss it after November 6th. What is your proposal?
I’d Rather the tea party would just create a new party after this election season.
I think third party-ism is suicide in any circumstance, and is particularly foolish suicide given the success of the tea party movement. We conservatives are steadily taking over the GOP for the first time since 1980 and you want to cut and run now?
Romney has always been a disgraceful human being and an embarrassment to good conservative people.
His speeches, fund raising, pleadings for abortion, his saying we only want our rifles to hunt down and kill people, his socialism and evading of military service, his compulsion to lie about everything, claiming to have marched with Martin Luther King with his dad, claiming to be a gun owner, being busted twice for keeping the same illegals for 11 years, hating Reagan and smearing him and on and on.
Romney is the sleaziest republican we have ever seen win the nomination, he lies about everything, truth is worse than nothing to him, he will lie when he doesn't even have a reason to, and him and the gay power movement, wow.
Contrast this latest finger in the wind move to his entire political career, and see which is out of character and which is not. People here do not believe him, and with good reason.
Correctly if I am wrong, but generally those same people like you pimping Mitt Romney and so enraged and against Sarah Palin. I wish it were no more than jealousy and a rivalry of sorts. But it really sounds like your kind wants to demolish her. Your only making it harder to embrace Romney. And setting up a dangerous scenario where the party splits for good.
Correct me if I am wrong, but generally those same people like you pimping Mitt Romney and so enraged and against Sarah Palin. I wish it were no more than jealousy and a rivalry of sorts. But it really sounds like your kind wants to demolish her. Your only making it harder to embrace Romney. And setting up a dangerous scenario where the party splits for good.
Correct me if I am wrong, but generally those same people like you pimping Mitt Romney are so enraged and against Sarah Palin. I wish it were no more than jealousy and a rivalry of sorts. But it really sounds like your kind wants to demolish her. Your only making it harder to embrace Romney. And setting up a dangerous scenario where the party splits for good.
Well, *you* predicted that we’d think alike on a lot of issues.
I guess you were right.
Taking over the party has become a bit difficult. And it is romney getting nominated is no help. I do hope we do elect conservatives this fall to congress, but so far they haven’t do as much as most on this site, at least, wanted. We’ll see, but this dance with rinos and backstabbers will continue if Conservatives stay in the party.
And you can’t just turn off a switch that quickly from one day to the next with regards to the dislike of Romney. After November 6th is way way too late. He’s not even trying to embrace the tea party at this point and when he did a lame attempt in New Hampshire in January the tea party protestors came out.
At this point I am for voting 3rd party. But you are not. So we’ll never agree. For me when both sides are so bad then the best thing is to stick it to both. We lose no matter who wins, but you don’t see if that way. So we are just viewing it differently.
Sadly that is true. The level of discourse has gotten to a pretty low level.
To be sure . . . my point is to the "defenders" of Mitt. Saying that many dislike Mitt's politics because of his Mormonism is no different than liberals saying to disagree with O is racist.
jus sayin!
I like Palin and Romney, not sure that she would be the best choice for a running mate, and she seems cool to the idea herself, but I don’t have anything against her.
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