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President Obama changing the rules on illegal immigration (O'Reilly: "...the new policy is humane"
Bill O'Reilly.com ^ | 6/15/2012 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 06/16/2012 11:44:08 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

O'Reilly: "... How can you blame kids when they're dragged to the USA from wherever? If you're a fair person you can't. It's not the childs fault immigration laws are broken, it's the parents who did it; thus the new policy is humane..."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; billoreilly; democrats; elections; foxnews; hispanics; illegalimmigration; latinos; nospinzone; obama; oreilly; romney
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Bill O’reilly is a leftist. He loves 0bama, love Lady Gaga and is a true liberal at heart. Only on occasion is he right on some things.


51 posted on 06/16/2012 1:10:42 PM PDT by GR_Jr. (Vote Obama out now.....deal with Romney later.)
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To: libertarian27
I thought military service was an avenue to citizenship - which I'm in agreement.

It still is as far as that goes. We have changed manpower requirements for the "New Army" since the change to all volunteer (true for all services). We no longer need sweaty grunts to hump ammo boxes up steep hills, we need tech-savy kids that can operate and maintain high-tech gear and "smart" weapons. We do not have the time to teach recruits how to read (a problem even with native born HS graduates!). Nor do we have the time to train MS-13 gang bangers military tactics.

I agree with you that military service as an avenue to citizenship is a worthy idea but I reject the politically correct corollary that anyone who is not a citizen can apply and must be accepted (DADT, women in combat, gay pride, &c, the precedent is there!). The idea also begs the question of how the Military can legally accept "non-documented" recruits! If you're here and current with a visa and decide to fast track an application for citizenship by joining up, good for you. If you were brought in by your parents in the dark of night, Obama waving an EO in the air does not make you legal and if the Military were to accept you they would be complicit in your illegal acts.

Regards,
GtG

52 posted on 06/16/2012 1:12:16 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The one thing I don't get about BORe is WHY ANYBODY watches him. He is a fake phony fraud and has been since his days on local tv in New York. I'm proud to say I have NEVER watched a full BORe show - and I don't understand those who do.
53 posted on 06/16/2012 1:16:29 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Here’s his email address to vent your spleens to O’Reilly:
oreilly@foxnews.com. Let’s flood his in-box.


54 posted on 06/16/2012 1:22:56 PM PDT by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This isn’t an illegal immigration issue — it’s a Constitution issue. BHO doesn’t have the constitutional authority to issue an executive fiat that violates our current laws. He cannot bypass Congress and issue laws. I applaud Rep. Steve King for taking legal action against him.


55 posted on 06/16/2012 1:27:45 PM PDT by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Let’s all sing kum ba yah and let this frekin’ planet blow up!


56 posted on 06/16/2012 1:33:51 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

http://www.scribd.com/doc/61087685/Barack-Obama-s-Rules-for-Revolution-the-Alinsky-Model-by-David-Horowitz-pub-2009


57 posted on 06/16/2012 1:39:38 PM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH (Let there be no doubt, Obama and his administration are on a mission to destroy our country.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Nope - working today. I usually just watch the primetime FoxBiz when I get home during the week (Cavuto, Dobbs and Willis). Haven’t had a chance to watch Francis yet.


58 posted on 06/16/2012 1:40:15 PM PDT by mykroar (October race riots bring November martial law.)
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To: P-Marlowe; Laissez-faire capitalist

FWIW, I do think the situation is different when we’re dealing with kids who were brought here by their parents.

The KIDS are not criminals any more than is a hostage in the back seat of a car when another person gets kidnapped.

So, since they are not criminals themselves, and since they have not committed any illegal act themselves, they deserve a level of respect that doesn’t necessarily extend to the ones who committed the act.

I don’t know exactly what I’d do, but I think I’d give them some kind of preferential place in line to complete legal immigration themselves with no guilty illegal ever being able to go above worker status.

As always, the correct answer is sealing the border, cracking down on employers, and drying up any economic prospects for illegals.

I’m with Virgil Goode on stopping all legal immigration for a number of years, also. There’s no reason in a time of high unemployment for citizens to be competing for jobs with foreign competition brought in making things tougher on everyone.


59 posted on 06/16/2012 1:47:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Bill O’Reilly screw you.

Romney is in full etch a sketch mode.

We lost the country yesterday. We will never get an e-verify bill passed and we will never be allowed to deport illegal immigrants and their “US Citizen” children.

Illegal aliens are deportABLE not deported. And every single one of them is entitled to a US Supreme Court hearing. Thanks Congress and Justices.


60 posted on 06/16/2012 1:50:51 PM PDT by jdirt
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

There were only something like 69 thousand new jobs created last month (because of obama’s job killing administration policies.) And we have millions of Americans out of work and that idit just gave close to a million illegals the right to stay here and work. So now those millions of Americans who are out of work will have about a million more people going for those 69 thousand jobs!

O’reilly think of that? Or did he think all those Americans should just do without so illegals can have the jobs. I hope Romney thinks humanity starts at home first. Taking care of our own workers first and fore most is what I would think is a Presidents job. That and following the rule of law.


61 posted on 06/16/2012 1:51:34 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: Gaffer

I spent many years as a recruiter and it was never legal to enlist non citizens into the military unless they had a green card (legal immigrant). During the draft they drafted many foriegn students who were in the US legally. So the only way one of these illegal children could enlist in the military was illegally.


62 posted on 06/16/2012 2:12:25 PM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: LibWhacker
Good comment All of the illegals should be deported. They have a sociopathic sense of entitlement. We are not the dumping ground for Mexico's surplus population and undesirables. It is inhumane to expect us to cater to those criminals and sacrifice the future of our country.

Rep. Steve King (R., Iowa) is considering filing a lawsuit to block Obama's plan.

63 posted on 06/16/2012 2:20:58 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
What scares me is that everything illegal now, will become legal on grounds of being “Humane”. Let's see:
1. The homeowner behind on their mortgage due to working so many jobs. It would be “humane” to give his family a break and reduce the payments to what he can afford.
2. The people that think some drugs should be legal since the poor person that has to worry about being arrested. It would be “humane” to make marijuana and other drugs legal.

This is just crazy. The laws are on the books and if enough people think they should be changed, then re-write them. I think making changes by executive order is becoming more the norm for Obama and I hope that Rep. King succeeds in his lawsuit against this new policy.

64 posted on 06/16/2012 2:38:56 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

children suffer because of bad decisions by their parents every day.


65 posted on 06/16/2012 2:47:03 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

children suffer because of bad decisions by their parents every day.


66 posted on 06/16/2012 2:47:12 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama just granted Amnesty to illegals and it bypassed Congress to do it. Obama just passed the Dream act Amnesty by decree. What Obama did is illegal,tyranny and a dictatorial act. Republicans in Congress defeated the Dream act. we worked so hard to defeat it . I am crushed. Now every third world moron who is under 30 will come to the U.S.A, .say hello to 2 billion third world invaders invited in by Obama. It is an invasion and the traitor Obama broke the law to aid this invasion of illegals.Impeach the dictator marxist villain. the media is covering up for it..
67 posted on 06/16/2012 3:32:09 PM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: xzins; Laissez-faire capitalist
I don’t know exactly what I’d do, but I think I’d give them some kind of preferential place in line to complete legal immigration themselves with no guilty illegal ever being able to go above worker status.

That is all well and good, but the problem here is not that these kids don't deserve to be treated better than their parents or better than people who were criminally liable for being illegal aliens, the problem is that Obama did this on his own.

The LAW provides that these people are to be deported when found. There is no LAW that gives them special treatment. Bush tried to push through legislation that would have done pretty much what Obama did, but when Bush couldn't get the legislation passed, he didn't give an EXECUTIVE ORDER effectively passing the legislation by the stroke of a pen.

Obama should be impeached for what he just did. His job as the EXECUTIVE is to EXECUTe the laws, not make them up as he goes along. Obama thinks he is a dictator, and most of the MSM and the Democrat party and a lot of RINOS like Rubio and Romney are cheering him on.

68 posted on 06/16/2012 4:06:15 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Absolutely. I agree with that PM.

I was addressing the kids, not Obama.

The odd thing about this is that Obama’s announcement is exactly what has been taking place, apparently, for some time. He simply verbalized it, so it could only have been for Hispanic voter reasons.

Forgive me for conjecturing, but I guessing that GW was lax on enforcing, too. And we know Perry was. Gingrich said he would be, and for that Romney attacked both Perry and Gingrich. Yesterday, however, the cat got Mitt’s tongue, and he could only mumble something indecipherable. And this from the man who excoriated Perry and Gingrich for their leniency. (Shocker: Romney moves left.)

In any case, the only reason Obama can do this is because the nation no longer cares about the constitution. Divided government wouldn’t matter, if congressmen knew their job was to strongly challenge any executive who decided not to enforce the law or to make up his own law.

They would unite and do a smashmouth on the culprit via fiances first and impeachment second. They would get his attention.

We have wimps in Congress. If they’re not banging their girlfriend, they’re banging their boyfriend.


69 posted on 06/16/2012 4:15:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe

fiNances

What I wrote would’ve bothered Clinton big time.


70 posted on 06/16/2012 4:20:52 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Lazamataz
O'Reilly might as well be a marxist Democrat, for all he's worth.

O'Reilly voted for Obama in 2008 and no doubt he will again.

71 posted on 06/16/2012 7:06:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Gaffer
We are talking probably TENS OF MILLIONS, here not 800,000 or a million.

I read on a Polish langugage website today that up to 30,000 Poles will qualify. If it is 30,000 Poles eligible it has to be MILLIONS of hispanics. This is defacto amnesty.

72 posted on 06/16/2012 7:24:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: GR_Jr.
Bill O’reilly is a leftist. He loves 0bama, love Lady Gaga and is a true liberal at heart.

It is all showbiz for BOR. He plays a "conservative" role on TV to get paid.

73 posted on 06/16/2012 7:27:29 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

We are a Nation of Laws, not Men. There is nothing compassionate about stealing from people to give to those you empathize with.

Humane treatment? Is Assad running things here?

You would think these people were being tortured living here and reaping the Benefits. I guess Crime does pay. Who is paying for their Education? Are they getting Scholarships that should be given to American Citizens, thereby treating those same American Citizens inhumanely?

If Ted Baxter is so compassionate, he can invite the Million Lawbreakers to his House and give them jobs.

Better yet, he can move to Mexico and bring his Million new friends with him.


74 posted on 06/16/2012 7:28:16 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

All these idiots miss the point. It is of little matter whether it is a humane act or sheer stupidity(my opinion). The fact is, it is an unconstitutional act by a sitting president and he should be impeached. Very few people seem to want to discuss that simple fact.


75 posted on 06/16/2012 7:39:15 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

O’Reilly is a statist blowhard. I accidentally caught a few minutes of his show the other day (wasn’t paying attention and forgot to change the channel). He was arguing in favor of adopting the same kind of government internet spying on citizens that they have adopted in UK, even though both the conservative and liberal commentators were in complete agreement that it was ridiculous. His rational? We need to give the government more power so they can stop child pornography, because with just a little more power they could completely stamp it out. Didn’t even enter his mind that it would be ineffective or that it would inevitably be abused. The man just can’t think straight.


76 posted on 06/16/2012 7:59:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: mykroar

Well, it was quite annoying to me to see their take on Obama’s new immigration fiasco.


77 posted on 06/17/2012 10:53:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: dalereed

I’m pissed off!!


78 posted on 06/25/2012 8:11:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
What I think is O'Reilly is not a very deep or thinker or principled man despite his claims to the contrary. If he'd thought through this issue and followed its logical , probable outcome and drew upon our rule of law to support his position he'd arrive elsewhere. His statement is more emotive than based on reason.

His immense success baffles me. I can only attribute it to his charisma or force of personality and not too much else. Oh, there was a time not too long ago that non-liberals had no voice in the media, and he was among the first- and loudest. So there's that also.

79 posted on 06/25/2012 8:20:06 AM PDT by Dysart
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