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Ninth Circuit to DEA: Putting a Gun to an 11-Year-Old's Head Is Not OK
Reason ^ | 6/18/12 | Mike Riggs

Posted on 06/18/2012 4:14:48 PM PDT by BCrago66

At 7 a.m. on January 20, 2007, DEA agents battered down the door to Thomas and Rosalie Avina’s mobile home in Seeley, California, in search of suspected drug trafficker Louis Alvarez. Thomas Avina met the agents in his living room and told them they were making a mistake. Shouting “Don’t you *ucking move,” the agents forced Thomas Avina to the floor at gunpoint, and handcuffed him and his wife, who had been lying on a couch in the living room. As the officers made their way to the back of the house, where the Avina’s 11-year-old and 14-year-old daughters were sleeping, Rosalie Avina screamed, “Don’t hurt my babies. Don’t hurt my babies.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 9th; banglist; dea; donutwatch; drugs; drugwar; leo; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd; wronghouse
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This is yet another wrong-house no-knock raid situation.

Haven't read the opinion yet (I'm listening to the oral argument right now), but for those with some familiarity with the legal issues here, what's curious is that the plaintiff didn't file a Bivens action, but old-fashioned common-law claims for assault & battery (and intentional infliction of emotional distress).

1 posted on 06/18/2012 4:14:55 PM PDT by BCrago66
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Here’s the oral argument before judges Pregerson, Graber and Berzon of the 9th circuit, on May 9th of this year.

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view_subpage.php?pk_id=0000009131


2 posted on 06/18/2012 4:16:19 PM PDT by BCrago66
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While the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals defended the agents' rough treatment of Thomas and Rosalie

Yeah, what a great ruling.
3 posted on 06/18/2012 4:19:38 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: BCrago66

Apparently it was OK with the 14 year old...


4 posted on 06/18/2012 4:19:51 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1245 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama is not a Big Brother [he's a Big Sissy...])
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These no-knock raids MUST stop.

The cops (D. A.) develop a friendly relationship with a judge, and whenever they want, they get permission to break into someone’s home.

In the confusion the wrong home gets broken into, family pets get killed, family members get killed, and even officers get killed because folks don’t always hear who they are in the commotion.

How many F-ups does it take for it to get through the court’s heads that this is wrong?


5 posted on 06/18/2012 4:22:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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After two hours, the agents realized they had the wrong house—the product of a sloppy license plate transcription—and left.
If we lived in a just country, the director of the operation, along with his/her boss, would lose his job and his pension.

It wouldn't be long before "the wrong house" would stop happening.

As it is now, they have nothing to lose, so they don't give a rat's butt, so they'll do it again, often.

6 posted on 06/18/2012 4:23:15 PM PDT by samtheman (If we want Obamugabe out, we must vote him out.)
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Wow, I agree with the 9th District?? Gotta run outside and see if the cows did come home.


7 posted on 06/18/2012 4:24:22 PM PDT by Cyman
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While the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals defended the agents' rough treatment of Thomas and Rosalie...

Innocent until proven guilty? Not in this country. Not any more....

Welcome to Police State USA!

8 posted on 06/18/2012 4:24:27 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: BCrago66

Here’s the PDF of the decision itself:
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2012/06/12/11-55004.pdf


9 posted on 06/18/2012 4:27:30 PM PDT by BCrago66
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There needs to be individual sanction against the agents, not just a damage award judgment. If it is a monetary judgment, it is ultimately paid by the taxpayers so you are effectively suing yourself.
10 posted on 06/18/2012 4:30:15 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Cyman

By sheer force of numbers - the 9th Circuit covers the most territory, has the most judges, and decides the most cases of any federal circuit - these guys have to get it right sometimes. Plus remember, the Chief Judge of the 9th Circuit is Alex Kozinski, who has been on the forefront of defending property rights, 2nd Amendment rights, etc.


11 posted on 06/18/2012 4:31:35 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: DoughtyOne

I concur. I totally oppose no-knock raids.


12 posted on 06/18/2012 4:34:49 PM PDT by dbeall
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To: Cyman

>>Wow, I agree with the 9th District?? Gotta run outside and see if the cows did come home.<<

While you’re at it, watch out for pig poop from above...


13 posted on 06/18/2012 4:35:16 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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SWAT busts down wrong door
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY82seEBw5w&list=FLv4QFAmpUbBf1dSGKHmU_qA&index=93&feature=plpp_video


14 posted on 06/18/2012 4:37:02 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: dbeall

Thanks DBeall.


15 posted on 06/18/2012 4:37:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: BCrago66
Trayvon Martin was 12 in 2007 and perhaps if the DEA LEO’s would have put a gun to his head and taught him a lesson, he would be alive and Capt. Zimmerman would be patrolling the streets and not in jail.
16 posted on 06/18/2012 4:41:58 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: BCrago66

Oh really?

17 posted on 06/18/2012 4:45:44 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Cyman; BCrago66

“Gotta run outside and see if the cows did come home.”

LOL, that’s a good line.

Thanks BCrago for posting this story here.


18 posted on 06/18/2012 4:46:50 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Uncle Slayton

What you’re asking is that the actual be sacrificed to the hypothetical, i.e., that the actual rights of law-abiding citizens not to be terrorized by outlaw DEA agents, be sacrificed on the ground that widespread terrorization of this kind may have snagged (apparent) bad guys such as Treyvon Martin.

That idea isn’t compatible with a free America.


19 posted on 06/18/2012 4:47:41 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: DoughtyOne

This is all practice for and the beginnings of The Terror. Every totalitarian government makes use of it.


20 posted on 06/18/2012 4:53:03 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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