Posted on 07/05/2012 5:46:45 AM PDT by pabianice
Dick Morris now on Fox. Morris says the UN Gun Ban Treaty is scheduled to be signed by Obama's U.S. ambassador to the UN on July 27. According to Morris, treaty will be rammed through by the lame duck Senate after the November election if the Democrats are still in charge. A treaty, of course, supercedes the U.S. Constitution. Interesting months ahead.
These guys look like they are operating as if they will not be in power after this year.
Just an observation....
Where in the Constitution does it say that??
I know it authorizes that Congress can approve treaties, but where does it say that sovereignty, or the Bill of Rights is given up to one??
I thought in Bush vs Texas, SCOTUS confirmed that the Constitution had supremacy over treaties.
Well a little research confirms that treaties are not binding on us if they conflict with the Constitution. In other words, treaties DO NOT superceded U S Constitution. See e.g.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110610055819AA2GfUk
Our problem is only a 5-4 majority of court rules that 2nd Amendment is a personal right of liberty. More Obama appointments and even maybe the turned-Roberts may upset the apple cart.
I'll bet most Native Americans will disagree with that statement.
A portion of leftists have even seen the danger of government disarming the citizens.
They come to my door to take away my guns, they had better be ready. Lock and load!
It only takes a couple of Senators beholding to the NRA to defeat this. Indeed, passing such a treaty would destroy more than a dozen Senate careers in ‘14 and ‘16.
Members of the World’s Most Exclusive Club like their membership more than any given vote or ideology. Far more.
It’s good to be a king.
I think this is mindless Morris speculation. No way there are enough Senate votes for this.
Why not? They already learned that Conservatives will not take to the streets and fight when obamacare was rammed down their throats. Why not a gun ban “treaty”? Sooner or later, probably when it is too late, Conservatives will realize that they have two choices. They are:1. Take a stand and fight- die like men. 2. Be slaughtered as slaves.
It will be a personal decision but it will be the only one left. As those who fought the Japs in World War II learned, surrender is not an option.
What are you guys worried about? Harry Reid’s on our side - right?
Where is that pic of the bullet-riddled blue helmet?
Last time I checked it required 2/3 of the Senate to vote to ratify a treaty. I know that sometimes they try some BS where the president makes an "agreement" rather than a "treaty" like NAFTA, but this is an actual treaty. Will the Republicans vote for it or not? I hope so but I never bet against their spinelessness.
Text thereof? Link?
The hysteria seems wanton & baseless.
The text of the bill is rarely referenced by those hyperventilating over it; methinks they haven’t read it.
The Congress needs enough votes to pass it that passage is improbable.
No treaty “supersedes” the Constitution.
Outright prohibition on ownership would, of course, prove...problematic.
At worst, such a treaty would reduce international trade therein. American manufacturers would pick up the slack.
(I’m not defending the UN. Just saying those screaming “Congress is gonna ban guns by shredding the Constitution!” know little of what they speak.)
I think it was Benjamin Franklin who said. “We must all stick together or surely we will all hang together”.
Don’t try to do it alone.
The ones coming after your guns will not be alone.
“Those trying to enforce it will face the reality of it”.
So will the above be before or after the impeachment of the President for attempting to destroy that which he is by sacred oath, bound to protect?
>>A treaty, of course, supercedes the U.S. Constitution.<<
No it doesn’t.
>>> I thought in Bush vs Texas, SCOTUS confirmed that the Constitution had supremacy over treaties.
NOT ANYMORE.
Don’t forget that we learned just last week that conservatives no longer have a majority on the bench.
If Roberts will cave on healthcare, he will cave on anything.
Indeed, I could heat my home with piles of useless treaties... “until the stone melts” pfftttt
Better not take anything for granted in this day & age of up is down, down is up, right is wrong & wrong is right. Start calling, emailing, visiting Senators NOW. A vote for this is a vote to go home. Period.
Good observation. One problem. If they are acting like this knowing they wont be in power after..why are they doing it? The new congress will simply reverse course.
They think they WILL be in power after the new election. They intend on a complete take over.
More details:
Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause:
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
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