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Remember Fast and Furiousís Mexican Victims
National Review Online ^ | July 6, 2012 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 07/06/2012 12:18:54 PM PDT by neverdem

The American people finally have heard of Brian Terry. He is the best-known victim of Fast and Furious, an Obama-administration conventional-weapons-proliferation program. Between November 2009 and January 2011, Team Obama arranged for licensed firearms dealers to sell guns to straw buyers, who transferred them to known violent criminals in Mexico. Two of these firearms, AK-47s, were found near Rio Rico, Ariz., where suspected smugglers fatally shot Terry, a 40-year-old former Marine, on December 15, 2010.

“I do not fear death,” Terry once wrote. “I do fear the loss of my honor, and would rather die fighting than have it said I was without courage.”

While Brian Terry is the most visible victim of this notorious policy, he is not its sole casualty.

On February 15, 2011, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata, 32, was shot mortally in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Members of Los Zetas drug gang also hit ICE Agent Victor Avila in that ambush, although not fatally. This assault involved a rifle purchased in Dallas in another Obama administration “gunwalking” escapade.

Largely overlooked is this plan’s calamitous impact on Mexico, its people, and U.S.-Mexican relations. Fast and Furious has spilled American blood. But south of the border, it has made blood gush like an oil strike.

“One of the things that’s so offensive about this case is that our federal government knowingly, willfully, purposefully gave the drug cartels nearly 2,000 weapons — mainly AK-47s — and allowed them to walk,” Representative Jason Chaffetz (R., Utah) told NBC News. These arms were supposed to lead federal agents in Phoenix to the Mexican thugs who acquired them. Instead, Fast and Furious guns melted into Mexico without a trace.

These weapons became invisible, but not silent.

Approximately 300 Mexicans have been killed or wounded by Fast and Furious guns, estimates former Mexican attorney general Victor Humberto Benítez Treviño. Now the chairman of the Mexican Chamber of Deputies’ Justice Committee, Benítez told the Los Angeles Times that Fast and Furious “was a bad business that got out of hand.”

Relevant details are scarce. However, at least one case generated enormous headlines in Mexico. Here is what happened, according to a July 26, 2011, joint report by House Government Reform Committee chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) and Senate Judiciary Committee ranking Republican Charles Grassley of Iowa.

On October 21, 2010, Sinaloa drug cartel members kidnapped Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez, brother of Chihuahua State’s then–attorney general, Patricia Gonzalez Rodriguez. She believed his abduction was in retaliation for her prosecution of Sinaloa narco-traffickers. A video promptly emerged showing Mario in handcuffs, surrounded by five armed, masked captors. That November 5, his tortured body was discovered in a shallow grave. Mexican police soon nabbed his suspected kidnappers after a shootout. Serial numbers confirm that two of the 16 weapons seized from eight of these hoodlums were Fast and Furious guns. These also were tied to the kidnappings of two people.

Patricia Gonzalez Rodriguez said, “The basic ineptitude of these officials caused the death of my brother and surely thousands more victims.”

Fast and Furious guns have befouled at least 200 crime scenes. Among them:

   Members of the La Familia drug gang fired at a Mexican Federal Police helicopter on May 24, 2011, wounding three officers and forcing it to make an emergency landing near Michoacán in western Mexico. Five days later, four more helicopters attacked La Familia. The gang returned fire, striking all four choppers and injuring another two government agents. The police prevailed, killing eleven cartel members and arresting 36 — including those suspected of targeting the first chopper and its passengers. Mexican authorities say La Familia possessed heavy-duty body armor and 70 rifles, including several Fast and Furious weapons.

   Two weapons purchased by Fast and Furious targets were recovered in Sonora on July 1, 2010, and tied to a “Homicide/Willful Kill — Gun,” the U.S. Justice Department revealed last September 9.

   Two Fast and Furious guns were linked to a February 2010 assassination conspiracy against Baja California’s then–police chief, Julian Leyzaola.

   Four Fast and Furious guns were found on January 8, 2010, and connected to a “kidnap/ransom.”

   Eleven Fast and Furious firearms were discovered in Atoyac de Álvarez after Mexican soldiers saved a kidnap victim on November 14, 2009.

As of December 2010, 241 Fast and Furious guns had been recovered in Mexico and 350 in America.

In one striking case, these weapons did not walk across the border; they ran. “Within a span of 24 hours,” Issa and Grassley learned, “a straw purchaser bought guns at a gun store in Arizona and facilitated their transport to Naco, Mexico with the intent of delivering the guns to the Sinaloa cartel.” On November 20, 2009, 42 AK-47 assault rifles and a Beowulf .50-caliber rifle were recovered. In just one day, 20 of these guns traveled from Arizona to Sonora, Mexico.

The woman who transported these armaments told investigators that she planned to deliver them directly to the Sinaloa mob. Noting that this was the first Fast and Furious repossession, Issa and Grassley explained: “From the very first recovery of weapons, ATF officials knew that drug trafficking organizations (DTOs) were using these straw purchasers.”

Team Obama’s defenders correctly argue that Bush-administration investigators distributed some 450 guns in Mexico. But there are several key differences: Operation Wide Receiver caused no known deaths. Many of that program’s weapons (unlike most Fast and Furious guns) featured radio tracking devices. Also, Mexico’s government knew about and supported Wide Receiver.

In contrast, Issa and Grassley observed, “ATF and DOJ leadership kept their own personnel in Mexico and Mexican government officials totally in the dark about all aspects of Fast and Furious.”

Mexican attorney general Marisela Morales told the Los Angeles Times that she first learned about Fast and Furious via news accounts. “In no way would we have allowed it,” she said, “because it is an attack on the safety of Mexicans.” In June 2011, a U.S. official informed Morales that, eight months earlier, Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez’s murderers used Fast and Furious guns. 

Hijole!” Attorney General Morales replied. Roughly translated: “Damn!”

Consequently, another casualty here is America’s friendship with Mexico. Though not mortally wounded, this relationship is in serious condition.

“Fast and Furious has poisoned the well-spring of public opinion in Mexico as it relates to the cooperation and engagement with the United States,” Mexico’s envoy to America, Ambassador Arturo Sarukhan, told Washington, D.C.’s New Democrat Network on May 31. “The thinking that you can let guns walk across the border and maintain operational control of those weapons is really an outstanding lack of understanding of how these criminal organizations are operating on both sides of our common borders.”

This foreign-policy fiasco is the brainchild of an administration whose transparency was supposed to stun the world and whose sagacity promised to smooth international relations after the alleged small-mindedness of the G. W. Bush years.

Diplomatic headaches aside, the real victims of Fast and Furious are those whom this policy helped kill, and the Team Obama–supplied firearms that still haunt the horizon.

“This is the perfect storm of idiocy,” ATF’s Carlos Canino told Representative Issa’s investigators: “Unfortunately, there are hundreds of Brian Terrys probably in Mexico. . . . We [ATF] armed the [Sinaloa] cartel. It is disgusting.”

And, as Issa and Grassley concluded last July 22, 1,048 of those weapons “remain unaccounted for.” Unlike carrier pigeons, these Fast and Furious guns will not fly safely home. Instead, for years to come, they will keep drawing blood in Mexico — and points north.

New York commentator Deroy Murdock is a Fox News contributor, a nationally syndicated columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service, and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution, and Peace at Stanford University.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fandfmexicanvictims; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata
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To: neverdem

Firearms do not talk.

We do not know how many Americans were murdered with these weapons.

In fact, we know very little except when the firearms are dropped at crime scenes.

If the firearm is not dropped and re-used for another murder, we will never know.

Fast & Furious is responsible for far more than 2 American agents and 300 is implicated in EVERY death near the border, Mexican, American or other!

21 posted on 07/06/2012 1:55:12 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: neverdem

Out of curiosity I just called senator Harry Reid’s office.

I had only one simple question, requiring only a “Yes” or “No” answer.

My question to his him (his staff, I don’t rate his coming to the phone) was, “Does a U.N. treaty have the power to override the U.S. Constitution?”

The response?
“The senator has not taken a position on that yet”!

It is considered bad form to call him if he is not your senator, HOWEVER, it is acceptable to contact him on an issue if you address your comment to him as senate majority leader!

Senator Harry Reid (D) NV.
Web site:
Mail: United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510-2803
Ph. (202) 224-3542, Fax (202) 224-7327

22 posted on 07/06/2012 2:07:31 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
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23 posted on 07/06/2012 2:38:48 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

As far as the F&F plan, dead Mexicans were acceptable to the obozo, Eric Holder, Hitlery Clinton, Janet Nepalitano, Dicky Durbin, Chucky Shummer, Dianne Feinstein as well as others in the FBI and BATFE for their goal of disarming Americans. Justice delayed is justice denied and these people should all be charged with murder in the first, conspiracy to commit murder, withholding evidence, lying under oath, misappropriation of government funds etc...... because that is exactly what happened and it is undeniable that they knew in the planning phase of F&F that Mexicans were going to be murdered with those weapons.

24 posted on 07/06/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: neverdem

I’ve frankly been shocked at the way the hundreds of Mexican victims of F & F have been largely ignored by both rightand especially the left. Had Bush been President during this period, all we’d be hearing about is the “Bush-whacking” of Mexicans, day and night.

25 posted on 07/06/2012 3:31:38 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kagan and Sotomayor side with Joe Wilson: -------Obama DID lie!)
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To: thouworm; MestaMachine; ASA Vet; jersey117; brucecw; EnigmaticAnomaly; aragorn; KylaStarr; ...

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26 posted on 07/06/2012 4:11:40 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT; Joe Brower
I'm just not buying the supposed angst from the Mexican government and their supposed ignorance of the program.
It's just too much to believe that they didn't know what was fixing to go down.

Watch this video and listen to what he says at the 4:30 mark.


Of interest...

And that is the case of Mexico. If we actually comply with the U.S. law -- or rather if everybody complies with the U.S. law that prohibits the sale of these weapons and their export to Mexico, we can move a great deal forward.
President Obama has made recent decisions in the last few weeks, and we value them and appreciate them -- for example, to reinforce the operational capability of U.S. border agencies in order to comply with this legislation and with other laws, in order to review the flows of entry not only into the United States, but also the outgoing flows, outgoing from the U.S., to make sure that there is no illicit money, in strict compliance with United States legislation. I think these are very important steps.
4:30 mark... One more thing -- one more thing I forgot to mention. One other thing we can do is to track the weapons that we have in Mexico. If we manage to detect weapons sold illegally in the United States in violation of this law on the control of weapons exports, or if, in the United States, they can have -- probably move forward on a good registry of armament or on the prohibition of certain massive sales of weapons, for example, to a hunter or to a common citizen -- we know that these people do not usually buy hundreds of rifles or assault weapons or grenades -- if we can move forward in those areas, I do believe that security both of the United States and Mexico will improve because those weapons are pointing against Mexican people and Mexican officials today. How could weapons be tracked in Mexico if there were no tracking programs in place or enacted?

And just how many "decisions" was he told about and exactly what were all of these decisions?

27 posted on 07/06/2012 4:54:44 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Lurker

“It’s time for one of the Mexican Presidential candidates to demand the extradition of Eric Holder as an accessory to the murders of hundreds of Mexican citizens.”

No, we need to volunteer him!

28 posted on 07/06/2012 5:50:59 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

There have been numerous threads here detailing anywhere from 12 to twenty-four Americans killed by illegals everyday. is another place you can look.

29 posted on 07/06/2012 9:20:39 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: silverleaf
The overwhelming sentiment here is anti-illegal immigrant Mexican and you're chastising me? The most corrupted institution is Mexico is the police. For four hundred years Mexico has been a kleptocracy and not a society based on the rule of law. I'm sorry but I don't see Mexicans weeping for the family members of dead Americans killed by their countrymen.
30 posted on 07/06/2012 9:25:27 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Americans killed by drunk-driving Mexicans doesn’t qualify as murder, as to my understanding.

31 posted on 07/06/2012 9:27:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Hey “Bub’’, here. Go to and type in this question: How many Americans are killed everyday by illegal aliens?’’ Ok chum? Do that.

32 posted on 07/06/2012 9:40:39 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

LOL!! Well you know you’re heading for the old folks farm when you post to yourself, duh!!. Seriously though BUbba, I’d suggest to do that though.

33 posted on 07/06/2012 9:43:46 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: neverdem

I don’t know about reparations but I think we owe the victims and the citizens of both the U.S. and Mexico some serious criminal convictions starting at the top. The ones with the most authority should be the ones who do the most time. Or hang.

34 posted on 07/07/2012 8:17:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jmacusa

When you argue with yourself do you feel good when you win the argument or mad that you lost it? I always have trouble with that. ;^P

35 posted on 07/07/2012 8:23:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: silverleaf

Well said.

36 posted on 07/07/2012 8:48:29 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Joe Brower

It starts at the top!!

37 posted on 07/07/2012 10:17:43 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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