Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Higgs boson: What's it for? I have no idea, says Prof
The Telegraph ^ | 7/6/2012 | Simon Johnson

Posted on 07/06/2012 5:29:33 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Professor Peter Higgs admits he has "no idea" what the discovery of the Higgs boson will mean in practical terms.

The British physicist whose theories led to the discovery of the Higgs boson has admitted he has “no idea” what practical applications it could have.

Prof Peter Higgs said the so-called ‘God particle’, which is the building block of the universe, only has a lifespan of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a second.

He refused to be drawn on whether the discovery proved there was no God, stating the name ‘God particle’ was a joke by another academic who originally called it the ‘goddamn particle’ because it was so hard to find.

The 83-year-old was giving his first detailed press interview since the discovery earlier this week of the Higgs boson at the Large Hadron Collider in Geneva.

The Higgs boson helps to explain how fundamental particles gain their mass - a property which allows them to bind together and form stars and planets rather than whizzing around the universe at the speed of light.

Speaking at Edinburgh University, where he published his theory about the boson’s existence in 1964, he said: “It’s around for a very short time.

"It’s probably about a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a second. I don’t know how you apply that to anything useful.

“It’s hard enough with particles which have longer life times for decay to make them useful. Some of the ones which have life times of only maybe a millionth of a second or so are used in medical applications.

“How you could have an application of this thing which is very short lived, I have no idea.”

But Alan Walker, a colleague from

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: higgsboson; peterhiggs
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-71 next last

1 posted on 07/06/2012 5:29:37 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
He refused to be drawn on whether the discovery proved there was no God,

Wise man.
2 posted on 07/06/2012 5:32:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

It exists to sell British newspapers


3 posted on 07/06/2012 5:33:34 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Heaven knows I’m no physicist, but I’d be willing to make a gentleman’s wager that there is only one substance in the universe, everything arises from it, and the universe is filled with it. And God is apart from it.


4 posted on 07/06/2012 5:38:52 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
I said, Higgs, huh
Good God, y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again

Higgs, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me


5 posted on 07/06/2012 5:41:50 PM PDT by Rokurota
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
the so-called ‘God particle’ . . . only has a lifespan of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a second

Yet long enough for the Gov't to have spent your grand-child's inheritance...

6 posted on 07/06/2012 5:43:59 PM PDT by mikrofon (Bosons for Bozos)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Even if God only existed for a millionth of a millionth
of a millionth of a second...that would be long enough
to do what need be done.


7 posted on 07/06/2012 5:44:47 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
Wise man.

He's even considerate. He dislikes the name God Particle because, while he's an atheist, he doesn't want to offend someone religious.

8 posted on 07/06/2012 5:48:50 PM PDT by Tao Yin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
Since God created all particles, all are God particles.

What are the particles called that make up the brains of those who profess themselves to be wise?

Foolicles!

0<}8^)

9 posted on 07/06/2012 5:58:04 PM PDT by WhatNot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman
I think that I recall a popular news magazine, 40 years back or so, that had a story about the new-fangled LASER. The story title was (I believe) "A Solution in Search of a Problem". Similarly other discoveries have seemed far too esoteric to ever have practical applications, DNA or Special Theory of Relativity.

Yes, I too cannot see any practical use for the Higgs boson but I am quite the stolid thinker and that does not mean others will never use it. As a key to that physicist's dream of a "Grand Unified Theory", it might be a stepping stone to larger issues. I am glad that there is still such research going on. This is the legacy that our generation can hand down to subsequent ones that they too can stand on the shoulders of giants.

Yet, one wonders if we in the US had been able to assemble the same kind of international science alliance to build the Texas Superconducting Super Collider (SSC) that was started in 1987 and cancelled in 1993. It was designed to be 3 times larger and potentially even more powerful. It turned out to be a too expensive dream for a single country to build, BUT if we had, would this have been decades old news by now?

10 posted on 07/06/2012 6:09:20 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WhatNot

Actually I discovered it years ago in my backyard collider. But nobody would listen to me. :-(


11 posted on 07/06/2012 6:12:44 PM PDT by heye2monn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

There’s no way it could be such a proof.


12 posted on 07/06/2012 6:18:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Tao Yin

Either that or he disdains the idea of a God so much he doesn’t even want to see what is apparently the most important particle in nature be called a God particle.

But, determined atheists are relatively few in the hard sciences. He’s got a lot of colleagues who are at least theoretical theists if not adherents to known world faiths.


13 posted on 07/06/2012 6:21:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: tet68

But God can’t quit being. He cannot (read, won’t) literally snuff himself out.


14 posted on 07/06/2012 6:24:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SES1066

Clinton killing the SSC was such a disaster. The LHC is still far from what it could’ve done. We could seriously be having attempts all sorts of new technologies by now. Oh well.


15 posted on 07/06/2012 6:30:48 PM PDT by Monty22002
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: HiTech RedNeck
"the name ‘God particle’ was a joke by another academic who originally called it the ‘goddamn particle’ because it was so hard to find."
16 posted on 07/06/2012 6:40:16 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Monty22002

Will any technologies result from the theoretical discovery of the Higgs — who knows.

It seems the important thing in the theory isn’t this very fleeting Higgs boson, but a Higgs field — kind of like a magnetic or electric field in that we can’t see it, but it fills all space — in which perturbations can cause Higgs bosons to make their fleeting appearance. The Higgs field, without any of its bosons needing to be present, is theorized to exert a drag or pull upon other particles, a drag that we have classically called the inertial and gravitational effects related to mass. For Higgs bosons themselves to exist seems but a laboratory curiosity.

Antigravity fields might result from perturbing the Higgs field in the right manner... but who knows. Only God does at this time.


17 posted on 07/06/2012 6:42:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ctdonath2

Why then God and not Dam?


18 posted on 07/06/2012 6:42:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Rokurota

Two classic quotes are attributed to Michael Faraday: (The Farad, is a unit of electrical capicitance)

Whilst attempting to explain a discovery to either Gladstone (Chancellor) or Peel (Prime Minister) he was asked, ‘But, after all, what use is it?’ Faraday replied, ‘Why sir, there is the probability that you will soon be able to tax it.’

When the Prime Minister asked of a new discovery, ‘What good is it?’, Faraday replied, ‘What good is a new-born baby?’


Just because we don’t what the knowledge will be used for, doesn’t mean there will be no use. In fact the “use” is likely to be so overwhelming and pervasive that people will wonder why we didn’t figure it all out sooner.


19 posted on 07/06/2012 6:42:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: El Gato
Faraday replied, ‘Why sir, there is the probability that you will soon be able to tax it.’

LOL! It looks like that speculation came true!

20 posted on 07/06/2012 6:46:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-71 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson