Witness 9 Claims George Zimmerman Molested Her! (DETAILS)

Global grind.com ^ | 7/16/12 | The Decider

[SoFloFreeper]

Special prosecutor Angela Corey just released more than 120 recorded phone calls that murder suspect George Zimmerman made from the Seminole County Jail...

Also released is the statement of "Witness 9," a woman who says Zimmerman is prejudiced against blacks and that he molested her when she was a child.

[Uncle Chip]

If found innocent the Zimmerman family had better leave the country altogether because they will be hunted down and killed if they don’t.

Nonsense. When the charges are dismissed at an SYG hearing, the Trayvonistas will be the ones leaving the country with their trashcans full of cash and a whole lot of people chasing them down for their promised cut of the action. There are a lot people with their hands out in this and they will want their cut.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

I never did try to kiss someone I was prejudiced against.

So you admit it!! haha

[Oztrich Boy]

Why in the sam hill does trying to kiss a black person mean you're prejudiced against them?

Where did you get the idea Witness#9 is black? She's "white hispanic".

[PghBaldy]

FWIW, Casey Anthony’s (highly incriminating) jail phone calls and videos were released before her trial. She walked anyway.

[Brown Deer]

0bama ate dogs when he was that age.

[kanawa]

Witness #9 – Christina Meza, Cousin of George Zimmerman, aka Christina Johnson, Daughter of “Mike” Luis Miguel Meza, who is the brother to Gladys (Georges Mom).

Thanks for the info.

[DoughtyOne]

Somebody earlier gave a quote by Judge Lester, basically saying that those who believe Zimmerman is racist will pounce on this and those who don’t won’t believe it anyway.

Well, he did sign off on this specific witness, Witness # 9.  I don't understand what compelling need there was for the community to hear something that wasn't actionable, and was unsubstantiated.  How would the judge view some witness saying his wife was a whore?  Would he feel compelled to release that to the media as well?

So yes, he did sign off on this stuff being released. The question I have is this: Who is ever gonna talk to the police candidly about anything, if everything that gets said to the police can be paraded around in the national media?

Yes he did.  Your question seems a reasonable one.  I don't have an answer.  If he is releasing this information in a manner that information is generally released, I would have to state that it mustn't be causing the problems you and I would expect.  Not that that is a valid enough reason to do it.  Why not release the information after the trial.  What's the hurry.  This case has seen so much information dump.  It was my take that the prosecution generally held things close to the vest until after the trial.  Evidently I was wrong.

This gal may have just been giving her gut-level thoughts to the police; she said flat-out that she never saw him exhibiting racist behavior. But at this point what’s being done is libel, within a legal context. Could Zimmerman sue her for libel?

I don't know.  It certainly seems to me he should have some recourse.  It also seems to me that the judge and prosecuting attorney should share in the responsibility for that libel.  There was no compelling reason to release this to the public.

At this point it seems to me that the JUDGE and PROSECUTOR are engaging in libel by releasing what appears to be totally baseless accusations.

Yes, we're on the same page with regard to that.  I agree.

Next is Judge Lester going to let the public hear everything that a battered wife says to the police about her husband - (never mind whether her husband will find out and kill her for talking; consequences be damned, right, Judge Lester?)? How about interviews where rape victims give the gory details of the rape? Is all that public information - and totally acceptable in the eyes of a judge because people are going to believe what they want to believe anyway?

I doubt that every detail of rapes are reported.  Further, some details for high crimes are sometimes kept secret so that the authorities can verify that a suspect is the actual killer.  Should all judges now feel compelled to reveal that information too?  I mean the public has a right to know, and that seems to trump every other concern.

Nobody can see the records which show whether or not multiple government offices at both state and federal levels have actually committed fraud, perjury, forgery, and misprision of a bunch of different felonies involving Obama’s records - all because of some phony interest in “privacy” - and yet this crapola judge allows unsubstantiated claims to be aired all over the country so that an accused man will NEVER be able to get a fair trial.

I agree.  It also fails the sniff test when the information is totally unrelated to the case the information was gleaned for.  What if a witness protection person was interviewed?  Should the public get the name and information and whereabouts of that person too?  There are all sorts of reasons to withhold information that is tainted, unproven, and just merely an accusation.

I thought it was impossible for me to feel more contempt for our lawless judicial system than I already do but alas, the system is going farther into negative territory than I thought even existed.

Some of this may be your and my misunderstanding of what normally takes place.  This may in fact not be that out of line at all.  I think it's a flawed policy.  I may be right and I might be wrong.

I don't see the rational reason for releasing this neighbor's story.  I don't want to mischaracterize it, but it just stinks IMO.

Thanks for the comments.

[DoughtyOne]

Yep. Thanks for the mention of the name. I appreciate it.

[Uncle Chip]

<>Somebody earlier gave a quote by Judge Lester, basically saying that those who believe Zimmerman is racist will pounce on this and those who don’t won’t believe it anyway.<>

Right here from Lester’s Order releasing Witness#9’s statement:

“In this Court’s opinion, application of the McCrary test requires the disclosure of this statement. The public discussion relating to this case indicates that the Defendant’s attitude towards race may be an issue at trial. Adding this statement to the discourse will simply be another piece of the puzzle to be relied upon by those who want to believe that there was a racial motive to the shooting, and will be dismissed by those who claim there is no such motive.”

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/order%20denying%20reconsideration%20of%20release.pdf

[PghBaldy]

Seems kind of shady justice to determine what should be done according to

"The public discussion relating to this case..."

[kanawa]

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/07/16/witness-9-christina-meza-aka-christina-johnson-daughter-of-mike-luis-miguel-meza-who-is-the-brother-to-gladys-georges-mom/

[BuckeyeTexan]

No kidding.

Has everyone totally forgotten the tapes released of Casey Anthony talking to her parents?

The defense should have known the tapes were being made and would be released.

[LeonardFMason]

“Zimmerman was a Coach at Penn State?”

Did you hear they moved the statue of Joe Paterno from the front of the football stadium to the front of the campus library? They moved it there to remind people to keep quiet.

[Uncle Chip]

Here — the newest revelation — tape #30

How did the prosecution miss it or did they???

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/07/17/this-is-going-to-get-way-worse-quickly-really-quickly/

The lawyers in this case got some splaining to do.

[onemiddleamerican]

Apparently Witness #9 tried shopping her story to media, and was pre-interviewed by them. They know her identity.

Funny how they outed the defense favorable witness IDs but are keeping this girl's identity hush-hush.

[Uncle Chip]

Her DUI mugshot is precious.

[NFHale]

Sniff...sniff... This one smells like absolute, complete, and total bullsh*t.

They’re doing everything they can to hang Zimmerman.

[DallasSun]

It does not matter what our opinions are. And you have to know that many defense atty’s have used the “tainted jury pool” argument before the bench when asking that the judge prevent the jail from releasing the body of the taped phone calls to the press. It never works. You have no right to privacy in a jail. The signs are there and you are told when you are admitted to the jail. Those calls are public. It is not just law enforcement who of course would have access. It is the press also.

[DallasSun]

Also, I hope you know I am not saying this is right..or wrong. It just is the law. I have never seen an atty have any success in asking the judge to stop the jail from releasing the phone calls to the public. This does not mean it has never happened. And every state is different. But Florida in particular is called the sunshine state for a reason. Everything in the justice system is made public. Hence, the sunshine state law.

[Uncle Chip]

I wonder what you thought of this Dallas. It is from phone call #30 that was released yesterday:

“In a phone call recorded April 14 between Zimmerman and a friend named Scott, the two discuss the new defense lawyer and the attorney’s vision for an upcoming bond hearing. Zimmerman tells his friend that he told his new attorney, Mark O’Mara, that he tried to transfer $37,000 from his online legal defense fund site, but could not complete the transaction because of PayPal rules that prevent transfers larger than $10,000.

He twice mentions telling O’Mara about the money.

“He said he’s going to have me declared indigent,” Zimmerman told his friend. “I told him I didn’t think that would be possible, because there was one sizable transfer I tried to make. It got stopped. You know, $37. He said: ‘Well that doesn’t matter. Right now you’re not working. You’re not providing an income for your family. You’re probably not going to be employable for the rest of your life.’”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2898502_p2/jail-call-says-defense-attorney.html#storylink=cpy

He twice mentions telling O’Mara about the money.