Because Lolo had been turned down a permanent resident visa by the U.S., they would have planned to live in Indonesia and raise Barack as their son for the indefinite future.
So it is quite likely, and would have been quite natural, for Barack to have become the legal son of Lolo and also to have acquired Indonesian citizenship.
Did that mean Barack necessarily lost his U.S. citizenship by virtue of Lolo adopting him and becoming an Indonesian national?
Probably not. U.S. courts at the time looked to whether the child was old enough to understand what he was doing in relinquishing U.S. citizenship. Barack was probably too young at the time for a court to hold that by being adopted by Lolo and becoming an Indonesian citizen he intended to relinquish U.S. citizenship.
However, once Barack became older, say 17 years old or older, he would have been responsible for his own actions that demonstrated an intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. (See Section 1481(a) of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act and the cases interpreting that statute, prior to the 1986 legislative changes which loosened the standards)
Under our law at the time, the answer is not given on the face of the statute -- one must examine the facts and circumstances surrounding each case and make a conclusion as to the intent looking at the situation as a whole.
An important and relevant fact to this determination is that Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship at that time.
Therefore, an action by Obama in holding himself out as an Indonesian citizen would mean that he would have chosen Indonesia over the United States. On the other hand, if Indonesia had allowed dual citizenship, and Obama had done something to demonstrate his preference to be an Indonesian citizen, there would be doubt -- maybe he intended to be both an Indonesian citizen and a U.S. citizen. Because Indonesia was very clear that if someone was to be an Indonesian citizen they could NOT be a citizen of another country, then if Obama chose Indonesian nationality he was thereby denying an intention to be a U.S. citizen.
What kind of action taken by Obama, after he was old enough to know what he was doing, would demonstrate that he no longer wanted to be a U.S. citizen and was relinquishing U.S. citizenship?
When Obama went to visit his mother in Indonesia, did he apply for an Indonesian passport or renew a passport he had from when he was younger? That would strongly indicate a desire to have sole allegiance to Indonesia and not the U.S., because he would have known that Indonesia did not countenance its passport-holders being nationals of another country. We don't know what he did.
What passport did he use to travel to Pakistan? What passport did he use to travel to Bali when he was supposedly working on his first book? No one knows.
Did Obama hold himself out as an Indonesian citizen when he applied for college admission? Or in order to obtain financial support? No one knows.
I’d like to know if the president passed any math courses and actually has a snowball’s chance of understanding what an exponential function is. (as in the case of our federal government’s debt problem).
“Why Obama’s College Records Matter”
It matters because if employers require proof of education, residency, employment history, criminal background checks and hair test drug screening for Americans who would be paid $9 an hour for a temporary part-time job with no “benefits” then citizens ought to expect the same kind of scrutiny be applied to a candidate or nominee for the office of President of the United States, the vice-presidency, cabinet appointees, members of Congress, etc, etc, etc.
2.) Grades (I think his grades alone will prove incapability
3.) Law License issues for him and the wookie, as they perpetrated a fraud
Of course, this did matter .... until
Mr. RomneyCARE began his non-transparency
to protect his Obama.
Mr. RomneyCARE ALWAYS protects his Obama
from TARP to BC to taxes to EVERYTHING.
and then claims otherwise.
Obama graduated from Harvard MAGNA CUM FRAUD
Yes, it was someone with balls. It was not mitt.
The last laugh has yet to be laughed in this tragicomic story.
The presser later today by Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse could prove to be devastating in an "indisputable" manner to the "Obama" life narrative.
These chuckleheads might've gotten clean away with this malarkey 20 years ago, but with the amount of information (and, admittedly, disinformation) available to so many these days, I think it's only a matter of time before the true nature of the perfidy that is the "Obama" pResidency comes to light, at least in the broader court of opinion, if not in a duly constituted legal setting.
I'll be keeping my powder dry and investing in popcorn futures.
The American people should know who positioned this post turtle and why. Let’s open all of his applications to college and his transcripts. And we still need to find out which Social Security number he used as I.D.
College transcripts certainly mattered when some leftist administrator at Yale deliberately leaked George W. Bush’s college transcripts.
hmmmm....so it may not be an issue of “where” he was born, but more of an issue of “who” he claimed to be at various points in his life.
So he may have been a citizen of Indonesia while it benefited him.
And then when it longer did - he needed to be a US citizen.
By that time he needed to produce a selective service application, a birth certificate, and a social security number.
This makes more sense than some of the other theories out there, and explains the lockdown on school transcripts.
Odd how the MSM isn't even a tad curious about this... Could it be they've all got the 'Dan Rather' syndrome - - where hatred of conservatives causes them to throw away credibility, respect and decency?
Or are they being bought off with promises of 'scoops' to die for?
The Washington Post and New York Times would know - but they're not going to share - not going to tell the truth... crickets from the LA Times? Well, DID OBAMA APPLY FOR COLLEGE IN THE U.S. AS A FOREIGN STUDENT? It's the public's right to know...
“Probably not. U.S. courts at the time looked to whether the child was old enough to understand what he was doing in relinquishing U.S. citizenship. Barack was probably too young at the time for a court to hold that by being adopted by Lolo and becoming an Indonesian citizen he intended to relinquish U.S. citizenship.”
It wouldn’t matter if the minor was a 6 week old baby, a procedure to determine if it is in the United States’ best interest to grant the request is in place. The U.S. Embassy is there to protect the interest of the United States and not determine what is best for its individual citizens in-country and act accordingly.
Anyone of any age can move out of the country and renounce their U.S. Citizenship. For a minor, the child is presented to a Counselor Affairs Officer (CAO) at a U.S. Embassy located in a country outside of the U.S. The CAO is informed the minor would like to renounce their U.S. Citizenship. A locally employed staff member (LES) is assigned to the child to investigate and make a report to the CAO.
The CAO reviews the report from the LES and reports to the Secretary of State a minor has asked to renounce his/her U.S. Citizenship through a LES. The CAO makes a recommendation to the SoS based on what is in the best interest of the United States.
The State Department has a policy to give the minors until 6 months after their 18th birthday to renew their U.S. Citizenship if they change their mind after they have renounced.
We know Obama was a foreign national when he arrived in Hawaii in 1971 because he was taken into Federal custody as an Unaccompanied Minor. If he were a U.S. Citizen, he would have put in State-based child services custody. Only children with foreign citizenship are placed in the Federal Foster care program.
In 1971, Catholic Social Services of Connecticut contracted with DHHS to provide service for foreign minors placed in the Federal foster care program. Obama entered the Federal foster care program in 1971 and did not leave the program until he turned 18 in 1979. His grandmother was appointed as a foster parent; yet Obama remained in the legal custody of Catholic Social Services of Connecticut. Permanent Resident Aliens are entitled to obtain a SSN. Thus, a Connecticut based SSN pre-fix.
Does anyone really think the American people care anymore whether or not their "president" is a citizen? Seeing the smiling, nodding faces behind The Won as he proudly stated that entrepreneurs didn't accomplish anything on their own made it clear to me that he has successfully become their god.