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Chick-fil-A owners can build if they promise not to support groups with a political agenda
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Posted on 07/27/2012 7:16:40 AM PDT by chessplayer

I can’t find a transcript but it sure sounds from the article like he’s trying to get them to forfeit their right to support anti-SSM groups in return for a permit. In other words, they can keep their freedom of speech, sort of, as long as they cede their freedom of association. That’s “Chicago values,” I guess.

"Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno says the door isn’t entirely closed on a new Chick-fil-A restaurant opening in his 1st ward.

Moreno told WBEZ that the owners seeking to build the restaurant have said they won’t support any groups with a political agenda, including those with an anti-gay marriage stance.

Moreno says if he gets an explicit guarantee from the franchise owner he will consider granting zoning rights to a new Chick-fil-A in Logan Square.

“If they’re serious about that, and they’re willing to put that in writing and they’re willing to adopt that. I think those are the grounds where we can move forward,” Moreno said.


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I think this is an attempt to wiggle their way out. They realize just how stupid it looks to ban CFA because it's owner believes in traditional marriage at the same time they give the red carpet treatment to anti-gay Farrakhan.
1 posted on 07/27/2012 7:16:46 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Chick-fil-A owners can build if they promise not to lay claim their First Amendment rights.


2 posted on 07/27/2012 7:19:53 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: chessplayer
So will all companies be required to sign such a document to build in the 1st ward, or only Christian ones?

Talk about a 1st Ammendment high fast ball over the plate - any decent hitter can knock this one out of the park.

3 posted on 07/27/2012 7:22:12 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: chessplayer
"Moreno told WBEZ that the owners seeking to build the restaurant have said they won’t support any groups with a political agenda, including those with an anti-gay marriage stance unless it supports THEIR views.

Fixed it.

4 posted on 07/27/2012 7:25:14 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: chessplayer
awkward, and maybe illegal.
5 posted on 07/27/2012 7:25:32 AM PDT by oldbrowser (As long as Obama's records are sealed, any discussion of Romney's past is off limits.)
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To: chessplayer
But this is okay? Hypocrisy knows no bounds with the leftist bastards. There are no rules, and if there are rules, they are to be ignored. Just like the Consitution.

Amazon’s Founder Pledges $2.5 Million in Support of Same-Sex Marriage

Jeff Bezos, the billionaire founder of Amazon.com, and his wife, MacKenzie, have agreed to donate $2.5 million to help pass a same-sex marriage referendum in Washington State, instantly becoming among the largest financial backers of gay marriage rights in the country.


6 posted on 07/27/2012 7:25:41 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: chessplayer

You’re so right. But no one on Fox has made the connection. And, judging from Rahm’s spokesman this morning, the mere approval to build may not mean city-cooperation thereafter. It is, after all, Chicago. Forms, plans, approval stamps, building inspectors can get, well, lost.

Another question here though: Will the City of Chicago be paying for any part of Farrakhan’s army?


7 posted on 07/27/2012 7:26:25 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: chessplayer

So if Amazon.com wanted to build a warehouse in this area, because they are supporting gay “marriage” activists, they cant build there?


8 posted on 07/27/2012 7:26:33 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: chessplayer

A big WTF!

How about telling unions that they can organize if they are apolitical?

It’s none of their business in either case.


9 posted on 07/27/2012 7:26:33 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: chessplayer

I hear Aug 1st is Chick fil A day. I sure hope they have a lot of food. We are going today to show our support.


10 posted on 07/27/2012 7:26:33 AM PDT by Plumres
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To: chessplayer

Only if the Chicago area Targets and JC Penney’s (and any and all others) forgo donating to homo activist groups. (and put it in writing!)


11 posted on 07/27/2012 7:26:56 AM PDT by jeffc (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America)
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To: chessplayer

Apparently, Al Capone’s mob never really went away. They simply went into politics. Legal injunctions have replaced the Tommy gun as the weapon of choice.


12 posted on 07/27/2012 7:27:03 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I order a lot of stuff via Amazon. Is there a good alternative?


13 posted on 07/27/2012 7:27:40 AM PDT by jennings2004 ("Just give Granny a pill...." Obama's healthcare = Death panel)
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To: chessplayer

They shouldn’t put anything in writing or say anything or make any promises that other prospective businesses aren’t asked to do. Just say we’ll see you in court.


14 posted on 07/27/2012 7:30:02 AM PDT by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: Plumres

I’m not waiting until Weds.


15 posted on 07/27/2012 7:31:19 AM PDT by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: chessplayer

I’m beginning to think this may be the “Jump the Shark” moment for the LGBTQ movement.


16 posted on 07/27/2012 7:35:48 AM PDT by rwa265 ("This is My Beloved Son, Listen to Him.")
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To: chessplayer
Isn't the Soviet Union Utopian?

Pray for America

17 posted on 07/27/2012 7:37:16 AM PDT by bray (If you vote for a Communist, what's that make you?)
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To: chessplayer
Chick-fil-A owners should tell these thugs to forget it and then put a big add in the paper letting people know why they did not open a store there..

I don't want to see a christian business let the thugs of Chicago tell them what to do..They don't need the money..

18 posted on 07/27/2012 7:38:36 AM PDT by PLD
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To: PLD

” don’t want to see a christian business let the thugs of Chicago tell them what to do..They don’t need the money.”

Couldn’t agree more.


19 posted on 07/27/2012 7:41:05 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: bray

You can try Ebay or, better yet, google what you’re looking for and buy it from a small business.

I bought a new kindle this week which is made by Amazon. I had to bargain with myself - bought it from Best Buy so Amazon only received wholesale price.


20 posted on 07/27/2012 7:43:02 AM PDT by imemyself
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To: chessplayer

This is discrimination plain and simple. Have they required the same promise from all other businesses?


21 posted on 07/27/2012 7:43:22 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: chessplayer
This may seem like a relatively minor skirmish in the culture wars but I see it as a serious infringement, if not an attack on our First Amendment rights of freedom of speech and the practice of religion. The Chick-Fil-A CEO honestly answered a direct question from a religious publication and simply affirmed his belief in the biblical standard of what constitutes a marriage; one man, one woman. He was not making a declaration of antipathy toward those who chose to engage in homosexual behaviors. His restaurants do not discriminate against 'gays'. As I understand it, Chick-Fil-A not only serves anyone - including 'gays' - but also employs 'gays'. There is simply no basis for the PC rubbish being heaped on Chick-Fil-A establishments by grandstanding politicians.

This attempt to bully a man who simply holds a biblical view of what constitutes a marriage in the eyes of God by attempting to harm his business and make him a pariah is outrageous. Chicago is a sewer of political corruption and rapidly becoming the murder capital of America. Yet it's politicians want to use the PC BS that holding a Biblical-based view of what constitutes marriage is akin to the worst form of racism and deserving of severe punishment (financial, in this case) is simply unacceptable. Sure, it may be legal and we all know that taking a stand, even obliquely, as the Chick-Fil-A CEO did can have consequences but this bullying by the thugs that pose as political 'leaders' in corrupt Chicago have taken it too far.

I dare them to try this on Farrakhan and The Nation of Islam, who are adamantly opposed to same-sex marriage. If the Nation of Islam (Black Muslims) can stand up for their beliefs and push back on politicians who oppose them with PC twaddle, why can't Christians do the same? Political Correctness (which has a distinct Orwellian ring to it) is being used to weaken and eventually destroy traditional beliefs and values (and their practice). We cannot simply sit back, cluck our tongues, shake our heads then go back to watching a ball game and forget about it, until the next outrage. This cannot stand.

22 posted on 07/27/2012 7:46:04 AM PDT by Jim Scott (Obama must be defeated)
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To: jmcenanly

Chicago,,,a real life Gotham City where corruption is a way of life.


23 posted on 07/27/2012 7:46:22 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: mass55th

If there was a black Muslim who wanted to open a Chick-Fil-A you can bet this whole issue would go away. No way Rahm or the mayor of Boston would treat him the same way as a Christian. It would be funny to watch their squirming to get out of their statements.


24 posted on 07/27/2012 7:50:04 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (ABO)
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To: chessplayer

We don’t have any Chick-fil-a near us in central NY State, and I just did a search at their site to see what the closest location is. There’s only one restaurant in NY State, and that’s at NY University in NY City. They’ve avoided NY State like the plague. Can’t say as I blame them.


25 posted on 07/27/2012 7:52:12 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: chessplayer

So it’s okay then for a conservative mayor of a large city to tell Ben and Jerry’s they can sell their product in their city if they don’t promote a political agenda?


26 posted on 07/27/2012 7:52:50 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: chessplayer

Chick-fil-A should take this bozo to court. If the courts rule that a porn shop can open in a town, then Chick-fil-A can open in Chicago. It’s about the First Amendment.


27 posted on 07/27/2012 7:53:47 AM PDT by goldi
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To: imemyself; bray

Amazon and ebay both need to be passed over. If you go to google and enter the title of a book and then click “shopping” you’ll find alternatives.
Other than that I don’t advocate using google either!


28 posted on 07/27/2012 7:55:34 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

You’re absolutely right. But let’s take it further, there’s a lot of blacks who own businesses and are dead-set against gay marriage. The black community as a whole does not approve of it.


29 posted on 07/27/2012 7:56:23 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Lady Lucky

Amazon doesn’t sell anything that I need...


30 posted on 07/27/2012 8:00:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: chessplayer

So Chick-fil-a cannot support a political group with an agenda? But businesses owned by perverted homosexual can? Wow talk about discrimination.


31 posted on 07/27/2012 8:00:41 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: chessplayer

So Chick-fil-a cannot support a political group with an agenda? But businesses owned by perverted homosexual can? Wow talk about discrimination.


32 posted on 07/27/2012 8:01:14 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: chessplayer

I will pull my support from Chic-fil-A if they cower to this trash and do this. It would hurt us all.


33 posted on 07/27/2012 8:01:48 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: PLD
Chick-fil-A owners should tell these thugs to forget it

They will. A new mall in the Atlanta area told CFA they had to stay open on Sunday, guess what happened. The mall had to back down or have a bunch of unhappy people in their food court.

34 posted on 07/27/2012 8:01:48 AM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: jmcenanly
Apparently, Al Capone’s mob never really went away. They simply went into politics

Actually, IMHO Capone, Nitti and the gang had more integrity than this bunch. At least they were honest and up front about who and what they were.

35 posted on 07/27/2012 8:03:00 AM PDT by Marathoner (Palin/West 2012. Yes, I'm dreaming but as Pete said to Rudy, "Dreams are what make life tolerable.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

therefore I will have nothing to do with amazon.

Blessings, Bobo


36 posted on 07/27/2012 8:03:29 AM PDT by bobo1
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To: mass55th

You’re absolutely right. But let’s take it further, there’s a lot of blacks who own businesses and are dead-set against gay marriage. The black community as a whole does not approve of it.


But they still overwhelmingly vote liberal. Same with Hispanics.


37 posted on 07/27/2012 8:04:01 AM PDT by chessplayer
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Ahhhh is this a RHAM suggestion or idea???

How could the voters of Chicago elect that crook to anything? wake up people ...Rahm is a member of the Obama thugs...

support chick fila on Wed. Aug 1...

38 posted on 07/27/2012 8:05:33 AM PDT by haircutter
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True, but if they are Christians being black isn’t enough to warrant an excuse. They just aren’t “black enough” is usually what libs say isn’t it? Hey what about a black Jew? How would Rahm handle that?


39 posted on 07/27/2012 8:06:28 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (ABO)
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So they support a Gay political groups agenda of business,
but not strait and normal business folk.

I see, so if you want to do business you shut your mealy mouth about anal sex,
unless you support it, then it's ok.

40 posted on 07/27/2012 8:09:02 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: jmcenanly

I bet no one in the Torre-Capone-Nitti gang believed in homosexual marriage or had ever even thought of such a preposterous thing.


41 posted on 07/27/2012 8:09:48 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: Aquamarine

The owners are looking at the question -

do I fear God, or do I fear Men?

or, historically,
get thrown in the furnace, or bow down to the idol?

And they’re answering the question correctly.


42 posted on 07/27/2012 8:11:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

is there a suggested alternative to Amazon?


43 posted on 07/27/2012 8:13:48 AM PDT by Spaghetti Man (NOBAMA)
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To: DMG2FUN

They need to simply yank the curtain down on this and state the fact that the left, the State, and the democrats in the state have an anti-Christian agenda. That’s the truth of the matter, or the “crux of the matter”, to be more specific.


44 posted on 07/27/2012 8:14:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Jim Scott
It IS a serious infringement! We are at a point in this nation in which the loudest voices are those calling the policy and statement made by this salt of the earth, epitome of decency, God fearing Christian man, who hates no one, and walks the walk, not just talks the talk, CONTROVERSIAL! His views are anything but controversial, the ARE the mainstream values of this country, and this slander will not stand.

I hope, as one person said here, this is their jump the shark moment. Especially these mayors, bill of attainder much?

45 posted on 07/27/2012 8:23:51 AM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: chessplayer
"But they still overwhelmingly vote liberal. Same with Hispanics."

I didn't say they were smart :-)

And obviously Obama doesn't think they're smart either since he's starting that new education program for blacks. If I were Hispanic, I'd be hopping mad.

46 posted on 07/27/2012 8:30:34 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: who knows what evil?

I like bonanza.com. Needs more traffic but it’s far more seller-friendly. Amazon and ebay are the plantations of the smaller sellers, with oppressive rules and excessive fees. In the long run, seller-unfriendly = buyer-unfriendly.


47 posted on 07/27/2012 8:32:34 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income.)
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To: mass55th
Apparently, Al Capone’s mob never really went away. They simply went into politics. Legal injunctions have replaced the Tommy gun as the weapon of choice.

Frank Ntti took over for Big Al went he went to jail

Frank had a young boy work for him , Saul Alinsky

48 posted on 07/27/2012 8:32:54 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: chessplayer

“Chick-fil-A owners can build — if they promise not to support groups with a political agenda”

Blackmail. Extortion. Bullying.

What else might be used to describe it?


49 posted on 07/27/2012 8:34:32 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: 5thGenTexan

The Christian ones will have to wear a yellow cross.


50 posted on 07/27/2012 8:36:30 AM PDT by windcliff
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