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At least four shot at Sikh Temple, SWAT team helps people out (Oak Creek WI)
Milkwaukee Wisconsin JS Online ^ | August 5, 2012 | Mike Johnson

Posted on 08/05/2012 9:50:55 AM PDT by Pinkbell

Edited on 08/05/2012 10:46:48 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At least four people were shot just after 10 a.m. Sunday at the Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, and a police SWAT team entered the building before noon and brought uninjured people out of the building at 7512 S. Howell Ave.

Among those who were shot was the president of the temple.

People were in the temple as early as 6:30 a.m. Sunday and many more were arriving for a service that was to begin about 11:30 a.m.

There were reports that children were taken to the building's basement after shots were fired.

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To: Sarah Barracuda
This isn’t your random act of violence, this was a targeted killing

There are specified groups that are labeled capable of domestic terrorism; unless the "white shooter" had his "Tea Party" or "militia" card on him they wouldn't use the domestic terrorism label.

301 posted on 08/05/2012 2:52:16 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: penelopesire

more info on the three wounded at 8:30pm(CST)


302 posted on 08/05/2012 2:53:40 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Who knows maybe they want to grill him to see if he has accomplices


303 posted on 08/05/2012 2:53:40 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: MagUSNRET

Yes..I am just wildly speculating. Just find it interesting tha lack of info being released. After aurora, we knew the guy’s name within a few hours. They ruled out terrorism immediately. Hell...even after Ft. hood shooting they would not say terrorism for days. It all points to Muslim perp IMHO.

Other possibility is that it is a lone nut but one with ties to conservative ideology hence the immediate ‘terror’ label. That would fit the WH play book perfectly.


304 posted on 08/05/2012 2:59:35 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: uncbob

If the shooter is white, they’ll leak it before the press conference tomorrow.


305 posted on 08/05/2012 3:00:16 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Brown Deer

Fox News has been covering the shooting sporadically. First they ended the coverage for the Wall Street Journal report and then some political nonsense (regularly scheduled programming).

I also turned Fox off in favor of *choke* CNN because Fox had about 6 minutes of commercials interrupted by a 2 minute “update”.

So to claim Fox has been covering this non-stop, commercial free is simply wrong. CNN has had commercials, but they’ve been on the story pretty much exclusively, much more so than. Thems the facts, Jack.

Now in that time that CNN has been reporting non-stop, we’ve been getting every rumor and theory that has come down the pike. Is that better than sporadic and more accurate coverage? Probably not. That’s probably why the police don’t plan on giving another press conference until tomorrow morning.


306 posted on 08/05/2012 3:00:54 PM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: Winstons Julia
And they just aired reports that there have been issues at this temple with threats of violence.

Please feel free to share the evidence of these reports with us.
307 posted on 08/05/2012 3:00:54 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: uncbob

How are they going to grill him? He’s dead.


308 posted on 08/05/2012 3:01:24 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Brown Deer

“Please feel free to share the evidence of these reports with us.”

Why are you being such an obstinate d-bag on pretty much all matters? I’ve seen several interviews with Sikh’s outside the Temple making the claim that they’ve been threatened before, being confused for Muslims.

It’s been on TV, on CNN and Fox (clearly before you tuned in) so there’s no link to a story.


309 posted on 08/05/2012 3:04:03 PM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: carriage_hill

Interesting thast in both Aurora and todays “incident”...the folks INSIDE immediately said “MULTIPLE SHOOTERS” and yet....in both cases we only hear about a “LONE SHOOTER”....can that many people inside not be able to tell the difference between one and more than one shooter? (rhetorical)


310 posted on 08/05/2012 3:04:20 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Pinkbell

Son of a victim being interviewed. His mother heard 30-50 shots. His father who is president of the temple, confronted shooter and was shot. He still does not know for sure if he is dead or at Froedtert.


311 posted on 08/05/2012 3:04:30 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: penelopesire
If it were even a remotely conservative individual the media would have reported this to every one of the 9 billion people in the world about 1000 x already
312 posted on 08/05/2012 3:06:34 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: MagUSNRET

Just curious: All LEOs and ATF etc are wearing horiz black tape across badges. Was there a LEO killed recently? For US Military casualties? Any idea?


313 posted on 08/05/2012 3:06:39 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie and stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: rurgan

Thinking there must be some loose ends to tie up if they don’t plan on saying any more about the killer for 16 hours. A lot can be taken care of in that amount of time.


314 posted on 08/05/2012 3:08:44 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: uncbob

Last I heard he’s “deceased”.


315 posted on 08/05/2012 3:09:32 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie and stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: carriage_hill

LEOs now take precautions after having been targets....because they could/might be identified from camera footage.


316 posted on 08/05/2012 3:10:50 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: MagUSNRET

”....can that many people inside not be able to tell the difference between one and more than one shooter? (rhetorical)”

That’s more understandable in the Theater - have you been to an ‘Action-Adventure’ movie in a modern Movie House, with modern sound systems??

(Hint - the sound effects approximate that of a Flash-Bang going off every few seconds - people in the audience (except for the stone deaf) are probably pretty disoriented...

Not sure how that would apply to a church, though.. ;)


317 posted on 08/05/2012 3:12:40 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: risen_feenix
Fox News has been covering the shooting sporadically.

I have beeen watching coverage of this incident on FOX non-stop ALL day without a single commercial!

Thems the facts, Jack.
318 posted on 08/05/2012 3:12:56 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: carriage_hill

If LEO AND ATF have them?....could it be for Brian Terry (Of Fast and Furious)???

I have no idea....just speculating...or they had a local LEO death. I might nose around the Wisconsin sites later and check it out.


319 posted on 08/05/2012 3:13:35 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Brown Deer

Look... you obviously want a fight. I’m simply talking about what I saw on Fox.

Maybe you need to take up your petty little battle with others on this thread who disagree with you.

Others saw the same thing I did.

Fox aired a report saying that the temple had issues with threats from outside parties.

Seriously, just change your name to deer jerky already.


320 posted on 08/05/2012 3:15:32 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Uncle Ike

I have not been inside a movie theater since 1985...for 2 reasons.......most movies suck....and I dont like sitting anywhere where my feet stick to the floor.


321 posted on 08/05/2012 3:16:23 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: penelopesire

http://www.faithfreedom.org/

In my opinion a Muslim did it. The media is holding back this Islamic’s name


322 posted on 08/05/2012 3:16:39 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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Guy being interviewed on CNN right now says that the perp was a white guy, fairly tall, with a 9-11 tatoo, wearing white T shirt and black pants.


323 posted on 08/05/2012 3:18:33 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: risen_feenix
It’s been on TV, on CNN and Fox (clearly before you tuned in) so there’s no link to a story.

Quite obviously, IN YOUR DREAMS! If what you say is true, then you should be able to provide the evidence, otherwise you are a LIAR.
324 posted on 08/05/2012 3:18:33 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MagUSNRET

Old saying: Ask 3 people about an accident and you’ll get 4 different stories. “Cloud of confusion in panic”. Echoes of gunshots in large bldg? Shooter moving rapidly.


325 posted on 08/05/2012 3:18:48 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie and stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: John W

They are hoping we forget about it in 16 hours.


326 posted on 08/05/2012 3:20:25 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: lonevoice

Same guy on CNN now. He was being used as an interpreter between law enforcement and the witnesses who were in the temple. For that reason, he’s probably heard about everything the witnesses had to say. He says the perp targeted men wearing turbans, who would most easily be identified as holy men/priests.


327 posted on 08/05/2012 3:20:33 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: carriage_hill

There was a Milwaukee County Sheriff Deputy killed in a traffic accident a few days ago. That could be the reason for the black tape.


328 posted on 08/05/2012 3:20:33 PM PDT by creeping death
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To: rurgan

Lol. I know, just keeping with my wild speculation here. It’s just strange. I really think it is going to be a Muslim terror thing or some other branch of the Sikh religion that is terrorizing this branch. So sad that we can not trust our law enforcement institutions anymore.....especially the Feds. Obama has shattered that trust with his incessant partisanship and demagoguery.


329 posted on 08/05/2012 3:21:23 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: lonevoice

The person being interviewed did’t say that the cnn interviewer said that. I didn’t hear the guy being interviewed confirm that.


330 posted on 08/05/2012 3:21:23 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: lonevoice

He just confirmed it.


331 posted on 08/05/2012 3:22:33 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: barmag25

I’ve heard him (the interpreter guy) say three times now that the perp had a 9-11 tatoo. I also heard him directly state the stuff I attributed to him in my previous post. Sorry you heard something different.


332 posted on 08/05/2012 3:23:44 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Winstons Julia
Look... you obviously want a fight. I’m simply talking about what I saw on Fox.

but you also said there was no coverage on FOX, so you better get your facts straight.

The fact is, there has been non-stop commercial-free coverage on FOX since they arrived on the scene this morning and they are still broadcasting. My television doesn't make this stuff up.
333 posted on 08/05/2012 3:27:15 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Hey ... turn on Fox right now. Are you watching coverage?

You might be on CNN and not know it.


334 posted on 08/05/2012 3:27:49 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: lonevoice

What’s a 911 tattoo? That could mean alot of different things.


335 posted on 08/05/2012 3:28:17 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: carriage_hill

Understood LOL...Just look at how hosed up many of the responses on this thread are ;-)”I heard this” “Oh yeah? Well I heard THIS” “Yeah well you heard wrong” “Oh yeah? You are deaf”...........etc etc ;-)


336 posted on 08/05/2012 3:28:17 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: lonevoice; MagUSNRET

Hells bells, they left out Conservative Right-Winger, Christian radical, NRA Member, Tea Partier, US Military Veteran... GDFSoB freaking media a**holes, anyway!


337 posted on 08/05/2012 3:29:09 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie and stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: Brown Deer

RIGHT NOW ... they are Airing Fox News Sunday ... I might add, while CNN is interviewing people who say the perpetrator had a 9/11 tattoo.


338 posted on 08/05/2012 3:29:15 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Deer jerky, lol that is funny, thanks for the laugh even if both of y’all are getting on my last nerve with your ever lovin’ incessant bickering about something stupid....at least you gave us a funny.


339 posted on 08/05/2012 3:31:02 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Brown Deer

You’re clearly a troll. Fox News Sunday (you know, the show with Chris Wallace) is on Fox News right now. Not coverage of the incident.

Maybe your local Fox TV station has non-stop coverage going, but not Fox News, the cable channel.


340 posted on 08/05/2012 3:31:37 PM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: Winstons Julia

I think Brown Deer is talking about Channel 6, our local Fox affiliate, which has been pretty much nonstop.


341 posted on 08/05/2012 3:31:57 PM PDT by creeping death
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To: lonevoice

I heard it that time. I must of been paying more attention to FR than the tv behind me.


342 posted on 08/05/2012 3:32:20 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: penelopesire

The guy didn’t specifically describe the “9-11 tattoo.” He did say that he thought it was a hate crime because he believes the perp thought the Sikhs were Muslim. He also said the perp was not a member of the Sikh community and that no one knew him.


343 posted on 08/05/2012 3:32:20 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: DrewsMum

I apologize for the diversion.


344 posted on 08/05/2012 3:32:41 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: MagUSNRET

Looks like CNN has followed the cops to the home of shooter. Name will be leaked real soon especially if it doesn’t sound Muslim.


345 posted on 08/05/2012 3:33:16 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: carriage_hill

I know...the press gets almost orgasmic if the perp is a white guy with any “9-11” reference......They are all blithering idiots.


346 posted on 08/05/2012 3:34:04 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: lonevoice

I can already see the writing on the wall..starting with the 9/11 tattoo..the media is going to say this is some “right-winger” seeking revenge for 9/11, targeting people wearing turbans
If the shooter was a white guy, the media would have already reported his name. They knew the name of James Holmes what, an hour after it happened, yet they don’t release this guy’s name..very strange..but the fact that they are repeating the 9/11 tattoo info, this is the narrative the media will use


347 posted on 08/05/2012 3:34:28 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: All

A couple thoughts by someone who is sometimes in the middle of these messes.

1. Drunk freeping, always a bad idea.
2. Hesitate just a second before hitting post and maybe even check back and see if someone hasn’t posted an update or correction to the post you are about to lambast.


348 posted on 08/05/2012 3:34:28 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
A witness told officers the shooter was a white male, with a heavy build, bald head and wearing a sleeveless T-shirt, Oak Creek Patch reported.

A product of our educational system that so focuses on superficial similarities that he can't distinguish between Sikhs and Muslim?

I think that there's a fair amount of historical animosity between Sikhs and Hindus.Don't know where,if anywhere,moslems might fit into that mosaic.

Sikhism comes out of the Hindu tradition. Sikhism is to Hinduism what, from a secularist religious evolutionary point of view, Christianity was to Judaism, what Mormonism is to Christianity, and what Islam was to both Christianity and Judaism.
349 posted on 08/05/2012 3:35:38 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Raycpa

By broader family I think he means not related by blood or marriage, but by being all Americans together. By being citizens of this country together. The bigger family. You and me, and them, all together. Pretty neat, if you ask me.


350 posted on 08/05/2012 3:35:54 PM PDT by kimwim
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