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Beijing tells US to 'shut up' over South China Sea tensions
The Telegraph - UK ^ | August 6, 2012

Posted on 08/06/2012 2:09:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The Chinese Foreign Ministry's over the weekend condemned a U.S. State Department statement that said Washington was closely monitoring territorial disputes in the South China Sea, and that China's establishment of a military garrison for the area risks "further escalating tensions in the region".

The mosaic of rival territorial claims in the South China Sea has become Asia's worst potential military flashpoint.

Beijing has said its disputes with Vietnam, the Philippines and other southeast Asian claimants should be settled one-on-one, and it has bristled at U.S. backing for a multilateral approach to solving the overlapping claims.

"We are entirely entitled to shout at the United States, 'Shut up'. How can meddling by other countries be tolerated in matters that are within the scope of Chinese sovereignty?," said a commentary in the overseas edition of the People's Daily, an offshoot of the ruling Chinese Communist Party's top newspaper.

The main, domestic edition of the newspaper was equally harsh, and accused Washington of seeking to open up divisions between China and its Asian neighbours.

.....Last week, the People's Daily said China's "core interests" were at stake in its territorial claims across the South China Sea – language that puts such claims on a similar footing with China's claims of indisputable sovereignty over Tibet and Xinjiang in its west....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chineseempire; communism; evilempire; imperialists; obama; romney; southchinasea
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To: hawkeye101

The Chinese representative should be asked if he speaks Japanese.
When he says “no,” we should say, “you’re welcome.”


21 posted on 08/06/2012 4:23:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: P.O.E.
2001: Communist, Nationalist and Dangerous............"The Chinese people respond eagerly to these ultra-nationalist appeals: That is precisely why the leadership makes them. Resentment of the U.S., and a determination to enforce Chinese hegemony in Asia, are well-nigh universal among modern mainland Chinese. These emotions trump any desire for constitutional government, however much people dislike the current regime for its corruption and incompetence. Find a mainlander, preferably one under the age of thirty, and ask him which of the following he would prefer: for the Communists to stay in power indefinitely, unreformed, but in full control of the "three T's" (Tibet, Turkestan, Taiwan); or a democratic, constitutional government without the three T's. His answer will depress you. You can even try this unhappy little experiment with dissidents: same answer.

Is there anything we can do about all this? One thing only. We must understand clearly that there will be lasting peace in East Asia when, and only when, China abandons her atavistic fantasies of imperial hegemony, withdraws her armies from the two million square miles of other people's territory they currently occupy, and gets herself a democratic government under a rule of law. Until that day comes, if it ever does, the danger of war will be a constant in relations between China and the world beyond the Wall, as recent events in the South China Sea have illustrated. Free nations, under the indispensable leadership of the United States, must in the meantime struggle to maintain peace, using the one, single, and only method that wretched humanity, in all its millennia of experience, has so far been able to devise for that purpose: Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

________________

Though it would seem we're being handed over to China on a silver platter.

22 posted on 08/06/2012 4:23:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Pollster1

obama gave them gm and all of their technology... and most of our military secrets too.

LLS


23 posted on 08/06/2012 4:28:40 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Average Al

“Another Obama triumph in foreign policy! ;-)”

And they B&%ch-Slapped Hillary in the process...It’s a two-fer.


24 posted on 08/06/2012 4:28:46 AM PDT by Artie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Just tell Wal-Mart and other big box stores to cancel their next 6 months orders for goods from red china and find them elsewhere. It just might get the ChiComs attention!


25 posted on 08/06/2012 4:39:48 AM PDT by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

zer0 will just bend over, take it, and like it.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 4:45:11 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero
Beijing Proves Its Aggressive Intentions

All in the (Political) Family - Obama's Marxist Mentor and Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod

27 posted on 08/06/2012 4:53:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: LibLieSlayer

Bill Clinton - Missile targeting technology to China in exchange for helping him get re-elected in 1996. It worked.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 4:54:31 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Happy Rain
The Chicoms will shut up when we replace the sissy in chief.
Yeah right, I'm sure Romney has them shaking in their boots LOL. Romney has the spine of a jellyfish. He can't even bring himself to eat a chik-fil-a sandwich.
29 posted on 08/06/2012 4:58:00 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-XXX= Now what? Cain?XX Guess not. ABO & MR)
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To: conservaterian
....I'm sure Romney has them shaking in their boots LOL. Romney has the spine of a jellyfish.....

Romney made strong foreign policy speeches in Israel and Poland. You should read them (or listen to them).

If nothing else, Romney loves America (and will support our excellence, economy and power projection) and will stand with our allies.

30 posted on 08/06/2012 5:03:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“China and Russia back Syria and Iran.”

Oy! They’ll be lucky to survive.

I used to work a desk for the Navy involved in Middle Eastern, Mediterranean, and North African intelligence. There is a reason that area comprising Syria, Iraq, Iran and Jordan, is known by historians as “The Graveyard of Empires”.

Syria has had the habit of playing both sides at the same time, and sometimes against one another. I can’t be more specific than that; it’s classified. Right now they’re caught between two crazed groups: the Sunni and the Shia. I expect the slaughter to be widespread and generalized with Christians and Jews suffering the most, as usual.

Iran is a tyranny, and the majority of folks living in that nation aren’t Persian. The Persian minority stays in power through terror and by using Arab mercenairies. The economy is in horrible shape and people in some areas are starving. Iran is ripe for revolt.

China and Russia are up to their necks in Muslim discontent at home in their own countries. If they’re lucky, they will get out of the ME without it all collapsing, taking them with it.

The U.S.A. is trillions of dollars in debt. This means we must change what we’ve been doing, change our way of thinking about the world, and soon.

Maintaining a deep water fleet is extremely expensive, and we must chose our main options carefully.

Worrying about a situation in the South China Sea when we live nearly on the other side of the world is a good example of America’s difficulty in recognizing its priorities.


31 posted on 08/06/2012 5:04:44 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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To: listenhillary

We have become involved in a mis-matched relationship:

American involvement with China is not even. China owns too much of the factories. China owns too much of our industry.

Allowing this to occur has been a mistake. It is time to rectify that mistake.


32 posted on 08/06/2012 5:07:35 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As a long-time amateur China-watcher (and former Soviet-watcher), my contention is that the problem with China isn’t Communism - it’s the Chinese (much as the problem with the Soviet Union wasn’t Communism - it was Russians who viewed themselves as world conquerors). When Imperial Japan went on its world tour, its model was Imperial China during its moments of martial vigor. The Chinese put on a mask of amity during their period of weakness, but now that China has grown strong, that mask is slipping. I suspect that future historians will look back upon the Maoist era, when China closed itself off from the world, as a period of respite for China’s neighbors - a time for them to prepare for a revived China red in in tooth and claw. However, historians may also record China’s feckless neighbors (aka future prey) as having wasted the breathing space afforded them - all you have to do is look at their minuscule defense budgets. With the exception of Vietnam and India, China’s neighbors appear to have settled upon a common policy based on (1) Uncle Sam providing for their defense and (2) fighting China to the last dead American.


33 posted on 08/06/2012 5:11:19 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: P.O.E.
Quite a departure from the usual.

Absolutely. These are very heady days for America's enemies. They know they can make the strategic moves they've wanted for generations, with no appreciable push-back from the USSA. They've measured us up and are confident we're not much of a threat now.

34 posted on 08/06/2012 5:23:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Zhang Fei
China’s neighbors appear to have settled upon a common policy based on (1) Uncle Sam providing for their defense and (2) fighting China to the last dead American.

They had better take a second look at their cards before placing any more bets. It's a whole new world.

35 posted on 08/06/2012 5:33:55 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: P.O.E.
Quite a departure from the usual. Oriental cultures are stereotypically deferential, and the ChiComs were obfuscatory to boot. To come right out this directly and authoritatively has quite a sobering subtext.

This is the standard issue thing we get from China. The same thing happened after Wrong Way plowed into the EP-3 near the Hainan submarine pens. You may simply not have been paying attention at that time.

36 posted on 08/06/2012 5:36:19 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: hawkeye101

China only “owns” America, if we act as if they have control.

America should continue to speak out and get back to doing what we ought?

Any attempt by China to pull a financial string will only backfire on their current and future investments.

China wants no attention on their aggression.

Screw ‘em!


37 posted on 08/06/2012 5:41:58 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: SatinDoll

I agree we are trillions of dollars in debt. Obviously. However I don’t think that defense spending is the reason. It is entitlements spending. Entitlements to people and to favored businesses. Both parties are guilty. Ethanol and crop subsidies weren’t strictly, or even mostly, democrat party ideas.

Entitlements spending has been growing on a linear scale for decades, which is troubling enough. However, under Dear Reader, it has gone on afterburners. We are past the tipping point where half the population doesn’t pay income taxes. We are fast approaching, and with another term for Dear Reader we will reach, the point where the majority of Americans don’t even work.

THAT will be death of us.


38 posted on 08/06/2012 5:47:58 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

China is also is in trouble, their economy is slowing down.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 5:57:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SargeK
I agree we are trillions of dollars in debt. Obviously. However I don’t think that defense spending is the reason. It is entitlements spending. Entitlements to people and to favored businesses. Both parties are guilty. Ethanol and crop subsidies weren’t strictly, or even mostly, democrat party ideas.

That is precisely correct. Around this point in the 20th century, Federal expenditures were 6% of GDP, including 1% for defense. We are now spending 36% of GDP at the Federal level (including about 5% for defense). In other words, Federal non-defense expenditures have gone up from 5% to 31% in the past century.

If we zeroed out the defense budget, we'd still have a $700b a year budget deficit. The reason it's so huge is because Obama carried over what Bush expected to be one-time expenditures in 2008 in a vain attempt to boost GDP. In essence our budget deficit is caused by the moral equivalent of having people dig holes and fill them up again - paying unemployment benefits to people for years and expanding eligibility for welfare benefits.

40 posted on 08/06/2012 5:59:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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