Posted on 08/07/2012 3:45:40 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
How true. They are so blinded by their Mormon hate sight, that is all they see.
"Screw the country....as long as we don't have a Mormon President".
How "Christian" of them.
There is a small grout of Freepers who will post any pro-Romney based opinion which winds up leading to attacking ex-Mormons and those critiquing Mormonism. Very sad and rather pitiful.
same here
and it irks me that some losers here all say that NOT voting for Romney somehow increases the number of votes for Obama
Obama only gets the votes people cast and what ever the dems can steal
Romney will win this election I beleve, Obama has alienated too many people
But, those votes will not include mine
My conscience will be clear.
The point is that this article is all over the internet. Check out Google.
While I'm not a feminist, she makes a good and TRUE argument for the way women are treated in the mormon church...as accessories to the men.
Willard and Dingy Harry certainly ain’t honest or very upright.
They are so blinded by their support of Romney, that is all they see. "Screw the GoP permanently...and 100% alienate and ostracize conservatives permanently from any party that might actually represent them and their views...as long as they have the right uniform on...why, they'd vote for Obama if Obama lost 2012 and switched parties and ran vs. a Dem in 2020." How "conservative" of them.
Book of Mormon Jeopardy on Women
Time to hit the Jeopardy category of Women in the Book of Mormon. (For those who don't know "Jeopardy," the answer comes first)
Answer: 2%
Question: What % of the 250 or so characters in the Book of Mormon are female?
Answer: Once
Question: How many times are sisters even referenced in the Book of Mormon? [The only reference I've found is 2 Nephi 5:6 and even then these sisters of Nephi are unnumbered & unnamed]
Answer: Sarai
Question: Who's the only wife mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?
Answer: Abish
Question: Who's the only daughter mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?
Answer: Don't Exist
Question: Who are sisters mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?
Now that we know the BoM marginalizes women, how can we tell if it trivializes women, too?
(1) Leading off the lineup of Mormon women, we have the unnamed daughter of Jared (Ether 8:8-12). What goes through her brain? Why she wants to dance before a man so that she'll seduce him into marrying him; then this household can properly commit patricide. Nice.
(2) There's an unnamed Lamanite queen in Alma 47:35. She's easy to defraud.
(3) There's another unnamed Lamanite queen in Alma 22:19-24. Let's see. This queen sees Aaron & servants @ foot of a dead king's bed. She jumps to wrongful conclusions. Then in all her decisiveness, she's going to massacre them for guilt-by-association. Then she started to back down from her heavy-handed executive authority. Why? Not because of justice, but because of fear her servants were fearful. So she was, too (v. 21). Aaron, seeing that this woman was no match for kingdom authority, elected, instead to do the easy thing. And what was the easy thing in comparison to trying to deal with this queen? Why, he raised the king back from the dead (vv. 22-23).
(4) And since the book of Alma in the Book of Mormon seems to carry the predominant mention of women on behalf of the entire book, how do the earlier chapters introduce such women?
Here, read it yourself:
And now, may the peace of God rest upon you, and upon your houses and lands, and upon your flocks and herds, and [and = covering things you haven't yet covered...so what you seen the next line applies to what follows -- not what was preceding]
and all that you POSSESS, your women and your children,
according to your faith and good works,
from this time forth AND FOREVER
And thus I have spoken. Amen. (Alma 7:27)
(Well, last time I looked, forever meant forever...meaning women are forever...possess[ions] per the Book of Mormon.
Other than that, when women are mentioned in the Book of Mormon, they are good for toiling, spinning, working (Mosiah 10:5; Hel. 6:13) and having kids (1 Nephi 17:1), which the prestigious clans of the Book of Mormon were good at having by gobs of millions...supposedly.
And even when we get to the grandest of stories about women yanked out of the Bible, even Joseph can't get it quite exact. He references an unnamed virgin in 1 Nephi 11:18 -- who Smith identified as "the mother of God." Now the RC among us might say, "So?"
Let’s keep religion out of this. I’m no Romney fan but we’re going to end up with 4 more years of 0bama if we don’t all unite. If Romney is the apparent nominee, then let’s stop rooting for the other side. The time for this was primary season.
Too bad you don't share your hatred of muzzies like you do with Mormons.
Thank you for writing that, this is getting a bit tiresome.
Some of these people are obsessed, bordering on psychosis.
Let's keep religion in this.
(After all, unlike TrueFact, the majority of Americans did as of just six years ago!)
A Freeper posted a Rasmussen late 2006: [see Election 2008: 43% Would Never Vote for Mormon Candidate (Rasmussen Poll) ]. According to that excerpt:
The Rasmussen Reports survey found that 35% say that a candidate's faith and religious beliefs are very important in their voting decision. Another 27% say faith and religious beliefs are somewhat important. Ninety-two percent (92%) of Evangelical Christian voters consider a candidate's faith and beliefs important. On the partisan front, 78% of Republicans say that a candidate's faith is an important consideration, a view shared by 55% of Democrats. However, there is also a significant divide on this topic within the Democratic Party. Among minority Democrats, 71% consider faith and religious beliefs an important consideration for voting. Just 44% of white Democrats agree.
So
what % of the following groups found that a candidates faith and religious beliefs were an important consideration for voting?
(1) Americans: 62%
(2) Evangelical Christians: 92%
(3) Republicans: 78%
(4) Democrats: 55% [still a majority]
The only threads I have come across of yours is anti-Mormon threads.
Nothing else. That’s ALL you have. You want barry, fine, you can have him.
We’ll split America into 2. YOU can have your “non-Mormon” Pres_ent and we’ll take the Mormon.
Mormons comprised most of the personnel that investigate and grant security clearances for just about everybody as I found out during my service with the Army. When I asked why, I was told that they are “clean” meaning there’s nothing in the investigators’ background that could be used for blackmail.
Thank you for your ad hominen demonstration. Some of these ad-hominen attackers are obsessed with personal attacks, bordering on...(???)...Well, I'll leave that to people who actually go beyond trying to psycho-analyze complete strangers online...which is itself quite a relational immoral disorder...
Yes...but affinity fraud (see post #18)...along with quite a bit of other problems arising out of Utah...is beginning to change that...
2009 saw quite a bit of eruption of Lds affinity fraud...and it hasn't abated
Your hatred of Mormons is all you see. You don’t look at the politics, you only look at things from your personal perspective of Mormons.
Were you sexually abused by a Mormon? I am serious, it’s the only explanation for your obsession and hatred.
Really? You have no idea what you are saying. If you folks continue to rail about Romney being Mormon, you’re going to end up having 0bama for 4 more years. And who knows what he is? But given a choice of the lesser of two evils, I’m going to do all I can to NOT re-elect 0bama. That include trying to convince you short-sighters to just hold your collective noses and go vote for Romney come November....all of you. Geez. What other choice is there? Some stupid protest vote or non-vote?
But, those votes will not include mine
My conscience will be clear.
^ THIS ^ I live in one of the deep, deep bluest cities of all the deep, deep bluest states EVER; and there's simply no earthly way any Mittbot -- no matter how huffily indignant they get, or how desperately they troll -- can conceivably guilt me into surrendering my lone, principled vote when Mittens' odds of actually carrying Seattle are appreciably less than those of Rachel Maddow winning the Miss Universe pageant next year.
My Lds relatives have always treated me wonderfully. And, no, no Lds person has sexually abused me in my past...But good try attempting to psycho-analyze complete strangers online...perhaps you and Las Vegas Ron could start an online "clinic"...and you could team up to become the "clinicians."
Don't argue with me. (Just wave your wand and repeat three times, "This 2006 Rasmussen poll never existed. This 2006 Rasmussen poll never existed. This 2006 Rasmussen poll never existed." ... I've been told... on good Oz authority...that the poll will just magically disappear as if it never existed).
If you folks continue to rail about Romney being Mormon, youre going to end up having 0bama for 4 more years
Are you claiming that we few that that much sovereign power to be wielded over MILLIONS of voters come November??? Wow! Now, I'll pick up that wand of yours: "Elect Virgil Goode. Defeat Obama & Romney. Elect Virgil Goode. Defeat Obama & Romney. Elect Virgil Goode. Defeat Obama & Romney."
That include trying to convince you short-sighters...
We're the "short-sighted" ones...under your "principle" of utilitarian pragmatic political relativism being advocated, you're teaching your kids & grand-kids that if Obama loses in 2012, but switches parties & re-runs as a RINO POTUS candidate in 2020, vote for Obama in 2020 'cause he'll be "the lesser of 2 evils" than the (D) 2020 candidate.
Under your scheme, you'd advocate people choose the "lesser of 2 evils" if it was 'tween THE anti-Christ and a reincarnated Hitler.
Frankly it's the converts to the new RINO GoP that will cause a mass exodus from that party -- a party that's already down to representing just 29% of all registered voters...way to make the GoP like the Whigs...headed for extinction...
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