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State's GOP conservatives gain upper hand
Topeka-Capital Journal ^ | 8/8/2012 | Staff

Posted on 08/08/2012 5:53:53 AM PDT by KansasGirl

Conservative Republican challengers Tuesday either unseated or were leading most of the GOP moderates in the Kansas Senate, improving their chances of reshaping the Legislature and ending a check on the political right’s agenda.

The most prominent victim of the conservative surge appeared to be Senate President Steve Morris, the unofficial leader of the state’s moderatae Republicans. With one precinct yet to be counted in his southwestern Kansas race against state Rep. Larry Powell of Garden City, Morris — who had served in the Senate for 20 years — trailed by 300 votes as of midnight.

Final, unofficial results showed moderate state Sens. Tim Owens of Overland Park, Bob Marshall of Fort Scott, Roger Reitz of Manhattan, Pete Brungardt of Salina, Dwayne Umbarger of Thayer and Jean Schodorf of Wichita all losing to challengers — most of which had the backing of the Kansas Chamber of Commerce and the anti-tax, small-government group Americans for Prosperity.

An exception to the conservative-wing surge came in Topeka where incumbent Sen. Vicki Schmidt narrowly held off the challenge of conservative state Rep. Joe Patton.

(Excerpt) Read more at cjonline.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: ks2012
Union backed RINOS ran against the tax cut plan and lost big in KS last night. My district chose conservative Republican Caryn Tyson over a union backed RINO for the District 12 Senate seat.
1 posted on 08/08/2012 5:53:58 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915957/posts

See also.


2 posted on 08/08/2012 5:59:05 AM PDT by Mercat (Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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To: KansasGirl

Possibly a trend? The very same thing happened here in Texas recently!


3 posted on 08/08/2012 6:00:00 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: KansasGirl

So I see according to The article, the moderates were “victims” of the conservatives. Huh, All this time I thought it was the constituents.


4 posted on 08/08/2012 6:03:01 AM PDT by Boiling point
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To: KansasGirl

And now those same RINOs who jabber about party unity and backing the eventual nominee will work overtime to destroy destroy the conservatives.


5 posted on 08/08/2012 6:04:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
The same crowd who just lost in Kansas will show up in Florida to coronate one of their own kind.

Now that's just not right ~ they lost the primary, boot 'em to the curb. Replace all the delegates!

Someone should do a rules challenge right now to PROHIBIT folks who lost a primary from voting in the Convention.

6 posted on 08/08/2012 6:17:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Someone should do a rules challenge right now to PROHIBIT folks who lost a primary from voting in the Convention.

Oh I don't know, I kind of like the idea that Mitt Romney gets to go to convention and spend his time with a sizable portion of the Michigan delegation that doesn't like him much. LOL
7 posted on 08/08/2012 6:20:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: KansasGirl

The people are taking back their legislatures, one by one, state by state. And in doing so, they are creating future candidates for the national legislature i.e. the congress.

By changing the lawmakers, we will be soon changing the laws. Republican government (in the real sense of the term) is again on the rise, siezing the legislative powers from the aristocrats and oligarchs.


8 posted on 08/08/2012 6:22:32 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cripplecreek; fieldmarshaldj
They can try, but they have been trying to destroy conservatives in Kansas for 20 years (at least) and now they have a ton less institutional power and money.

I give Sam Brownback a ton of credit for transforming the state - he beat moderate appointed Sen. Sheila Frahm (Bob Dole's replacement) to win his Senate seat and has led from the top as Governor.

9 posted on 08/08/2012 6:28:04 AM PDT by Skulllspitter
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To: Skulllspitter

In Topeka, the incumbent (a RINO-follower) won by 150 votes. She spent $284,000, at least, from the AFL-CIO and KNEA. Her campaign lit made her out to be a very hard-core conservative. Here’s her dilemma now: she had more than 150 Democrat cross-overs in her district. Now she’ll have to campaign in a general with a largely uninterested GOP base (as far as their opinion of her). I doubt that her “The first thing I’ll do is keep ObamaCare out of Kansas” mailer will help her much.


10 posted on 08/08/2012 6:46:43 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: KansasGirl

Congratulations on electing Tyson. She is exceptional! The more I read about the primary results, the happier I’m becoming. Just a few Sebileus go-fers left, and they are too spineless to come up with terrible ideas on their own.


11 posted on 08/08/2012 6:51:13 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: KansasGirl
The only "moderate RINO" to win the primary in KS 3rd District, was here in my own neighborhood (abuts liberal Kansas City, MO)!

One problem for my neighborhood is that part of our area is in the most exclusive city, Mission Hills, KS that has the highest per capita income in Johnson County, KS with a very high incidence of Obama voters (also some very liberal Jewish families.)

In some other small cities around me has seen an influx of dimocRATS and liberal RINOs moving into KS from the failing schools in Kansas City, MO school district where graduating seniors have received diplomas from unaccredited schools - and not for the first year!!!

Yet they move to KS and continue voting for the same policies and people that bankrupted their former schools.

Finally, they would have signs for those moderate/liberal candidates and in November, the Obama signs will appear in the same yards alongside the RINO sign or will switch and vote for their true choice, a dimocRAT.

12 posted on 08/08/2012 6:57:24 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: zerosix

Yet they move to KS and continue voting for the same policies and people that bankrupted their former schools.”

Same thing happening in Texas. Lived up there in OP and Lenexa for many years and except for the State Line area and part of Mission Hills it always seemed pretty conservative. But that was a different era. Shawnee Mission had great schools and was awesome place to raise family. Still have some Jewish friends up there but only because we do not ever discuss politics.


13 posted on 08/08/2012 8:29:22 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: KansasGirl

Something that I have been thinking about for many years (and I am sure many FReepers have been too)..

WHY don’t WE make some DEM moderates to swing the govt. back to the conservative side (I won’t say Repub now.. I think that party is TOO far gone..)

With our grass roots, I think it can be done.. but someone has to start it, sadly, I am far and away.. but it’s just an idea (and I am 99.9% sure I’m not the only one that has been thinking it).


14 posted on 08/08/2012 9:47:03 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Bikkuri

Forgot to mention a couple of things... It took MANY decades for the socialists to slip in to our party to throw it off.. and they did a good job of it.. look at what we have now :/

It will take a LONG time to return the favor and get this more balanced; BUT, if we keep saying, “We have to win this one, but we will get it right next time (again, and again, and again.. ad infinitum)... well, look where we are now :( )


15 posted on 08/08/2012 9:51:45 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Grams A
It's interesting, I, too, have lots of friends in the Mission Hills area and even attend a weekly bible study with the ladies but they are totally surrounded (like an oasis in the desert) by the most liberal neighbors.

It's eerie around Christmas, on one block, there is only one house that shows any sign of Christmas, though in much of the other blocks, houses and yards are lit up like it's a retail space - just no Christian values just phony religiosity.

Of course the area churches preach social justice and "doing good (peanut butter Sundays peak off the charts)."

16 posted on 08/08/2012 10:38:15 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: cotton1706

Sounds good but unless The Disaster is removed the new legislatures will be taking over the deck of the Titanic after the iceberg.


17 posted on 08/08/2012 11:33:29 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: zerosix

It isn’t people moving and voting the same way that you are seeing but the impact of 100% leftwing media and educational establishments, all Left, all the Time.

Besides the same people don’t stay in the same places for decades in any case. Last time I looked the average stay in one address was about seven years.


18 posted on 08/08/2012 11:39:03 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: arrogantsob
The stats regarding length of stay in one place to another but when they are couples with children moving into an established neighborhood, with the clear intent of being so for those schools, they are not moving out, at least not in this area of the Midwest.

In apartments, town-homes, and back in the days of the "starter homes" when one could move easily, while making money on the sale, simply does NOT exist right now.

No, the young couples sporting Obama stickers on their minivans and suvs are staying put and voting for libs.

19 posted on 08/08/2012 11:48:33 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: zerosix

My parents started taking me to the Country Club Plaza at Christmas and we would drive up and down Ward Parkway beginning in 1945 and then I took my children every year beginning when they were babies. I had not been back at Christmas between 1985 and a quick trip back in 2010. What a HUGE difference in 2010. Not the same area at all. Really missed Harzfeld’s wonderful animated windows as well as Cricket West. Was at Plaza III when the big flood over ran Brush Creek and came through the front window. Wonderful memories.

I often wondered why the Mission Hills people just didn’t move over to the east side of State Line!


20 posted on 08/08/2012 11:51:41 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: zerosix

That is not our problem. Mind control is our problem.

There is no doubt that depression slows the rate of movement but the average stay in one location is not changed that much.

And movement from the cities is driven as much by perceived relative prices as anything else, if not more.


21 posted on 08/08/2012 11:57:54 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Bikkuri

“WHY don’t WE make some DEM moderates to swing the govt. back to the conservative side (I won’t say Repub now.. I think that party is TOO far gone..)”

Impossible. Democrat party platform is for gay marriage, socialized medicine, higher punitive taxes for upper income earners, and a Federal govt that spends 1/4 of our national wealth.

you cant ‘moderate’ the left.


22 posted on 08/08/2012 12:20:04 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: Grams A
You're not the only one that "misses the CC Plaza."

I live within walking distance and since the Nichols family (founders and developers of Kansas City, MO's Country Club Plaza, so named because it was originally the city dump that became surrounded by golf courses and country clubs) sold out to N.C. Highwoods Properties, has turned into one major chain mall with many chain eateries and bars - ugh! I don't bother walking there for there is little of interest to me as either a shopper or diner and drink and drown bars are not my scene.

When once, the cars blaring rap music were limited to one pass only through the Plaza, now has roving gangs shoving and jostling people as they enter and leave area shops.

This became a real scandal when two wives of KC Chief's executives were mugged in a parking lot and not too long ago, Sly James, KC Mayor, was forced to come to the aid of a passerby one weekend from a roving gang of "teens" (not-Amish.)

Sad, but that's what happens when the populace sinks to welfare recipients who continue to vote themselves more and more largess from the taxpayers and the elected supposed to be in charge of protecting the citizens, give way to "community involvement (read no guns, no cars, no motorcycles, just walking or biking making friends with the locals) to protection from such lawlessness.

Anything more than that is viewed as "police harassment" or "picking on minorities."

23 posted on 08/08/2012 1:05:54 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: zerosix

“....a roving gang of “teens” (not-Amish.)....”
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aka “yutes”!


24 posted on 08/08/2012 1:56:31 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Ah ha, you’ve heard of them no doubt.


25 posted on 08/08/2012 2:00:37 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: zerosix

That makes me so sad to think that this has happened, too many things now exist in my memory only. Guess that’s one of the downsides from living so long and being able to live in so many different places.


26 posted on 08/08/2012 2:07:05 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: KansasGirl

“What the Hell Is the Matter With Kansas?”

Whatever it is, I hope it’s catching!


27 posted on 08/08/2012 2:26:26 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: WOSG

Lol.. ok, let me rephrase that... .. Why don’t we have some true Conservatives infiltrate them, like they have done for the last 7 decades(way before I was born, and a few years before my father was born), act and talk like them.. gain their trust... and take over.... just like they have done... :/ sounds evil.. and it is.. but we must get our position back (original founder’s intention of the Constitution, and the founding of our Country and the moral values that came with it)...


28 posted on 08/08/2012 3:59:07 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Grams A

I see a ridiculous number of California license plates out here in West Texas....former Kansan also as my name would indicate. Really miss Kansas a lot (especially the scenery with it so brown and dry out here but even KS is awful this summer as well)....very proud of this primary!


29 posted on 08/08/2012 9:01:59 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Kanzan

Eh its better to have a moderate politically pledged to support you than a democrat politically pledged to appose you.

Take the gains you have with the rest of the State and let them run your state’s political activity. Let the moderates help you where they will, as the democrats will fight you everywhere.


30 posted on 08/08/2012 9:49:49 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: rwfromkansas

Have gotten into the habit of checking out license plates when I drive into the city. Tonight, of the 6 that I could see, 4 were from states other than Texas - even saw one from New York last week.

People who have only driven through Kansas have nothing much positive to say about it. But there is something special about the waving wheat and listening to the corn grow that they probably wouldn’t appreciate anyway. Lived there for 45 years. Awesome place to raise a family.

At least parts of Texas aren’t as dry this year as last year. Lived and worked in Lubbock one summer and it was so hot and not a drop of rain.

Farmers in Kansas are really hurting. But politically they are really getting it together. Lots of folks up there worked very hard this election year and they have a right to be proud of their efforts. I know many are so glad Selibus is gone. Dorothy should have banished her to some place other than D.C. though.


31 posted on 08/08/2012 10:13:02 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

I’m in Midland so pretty much just like Lubbock here unfortunately, though we have had some rain this summer luckily.


32 posted on 08/08/2012 11:10:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: rwfromkansas

We drove from Houston to Colorado at Christmas and then back two weeks later. Thought we would never get out of Texas. I was shocked at how much Lubbock has grown. Didn’t know we had a huge wind farm in that part of the state either.

Used to work in the grain industry and my area was from Gruver, Texas, through Happy, Texas and down to Lubbock. Not much out there but cows and wind. First tumbleweed I ever saw was bigger than my car.

We spend a lot of weekend time in the Hill Country and love it. There is so many different parts to Texas that most people never take the time to see. Friends from the east coast are really impressed with how good our roads are and the fact that we have quite a lot of trees in part of the state.


33 posted on 08/08/2012 11:35:34 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Bigun

TX defeated only one liberal Republican state senator in the primary runoff. The others either were not running this year or had already survived first primary challengers.


34 posted on 08/10/2012 4:29:22 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: Theodore R.
TX defeated only one liberal Republican state senator in the primary runoff. The others either were not running this year or had already survived first primary challengers.

Several other weren't on the ballot at all as they chose to retire rather than face re-election and MANY rino r's were defeated in the house.

The Texas legislature will be a HUGELY more conservative body next session as a result.

35 posted on 08/10/2012 5:49:14 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: WOSG

Sadly, I agree.. they have their mindset set already.. What will it take to get back (at least) half of what we were (supposed to be) short of a true civil war? :/

We all have ideas, but does anyone have a real answer?


36 posted on 08/10/2012 9:45:12 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: Bigun

“The Texas legislature will be a HUGELY more conservative body next session as a result. “

I should hope so.
2011 session was a big disappointment given the large GOP majority that was gained. Straus is to be faulted, but I dont think he’ll be knocked off even with some of his pals gone.


37 posted on 08/10/2012 5:59:47 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: WOSG

Strauss certainly won’t be knocked off if WE don’t, en mass, let our reps know that voting for him as speaker will be frowned upon in a BIG way.


38 posted on 08/10/2012 6:06:52 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Monorprise

Good counsel, when it comes to the rank and file moderate Republicans in Kansas - they understand what we’re up against. The problem was (and I stress WAS) the moderates in the Senate who were hell-bent on helping the Democrats, no matter what the issue.


39 posted on 08/11/2012 12:20:19 PM PDT by Kanzan
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