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Mitt Romney announcing VP pick at the USS Wisconsin (home state of Paul Ryan)
Washington Examiner ^ | 10 August 2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 08/10/2012 8:54:25 PM PDT by moonshot925

“Romney will announce his choice for Vice President in Norfolk, Virginia at 8:45am EST,” Romney campaign spokesman Lenny Alcivar told reporters in an email this evening.

The announcement is being made at the USS Wisconsin. It’s still unclear whom he will choose, but the odds that it is Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., seemed to increase when National Review’s Robert Costa noted that a charter plane flew from Boston to Ryan’s hometown of Janesville, Wis., today.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; mittromney; paulryan; romney; romneyryan; ryan2012; ryanvp; virginia; vp; vpryan; wisconsin
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To: nutmeg
There was great intrigue that night. It was fun to watch it play out. In a way it seems like a hundred years ago. So much has changed since then and unfortunately not for the better. Ryan is a great choice and will be a formidable candidate.
201 posted on 08/11/2012 1:13:34 AM PDT by nicksaunt
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To: treetopsandroofs
He's only 42 and spent most of his adult working life in the House.

He has no business executive, state or local government experience. He's not a veteran.

He knows the budget inside and out but that's it. Foreign policy? Who knows. Defense? Who knows.

Obama couldn't ask for a better running mate in terms of avenues of attack because he's run against the Ryan budget for the past two years. Ryan was depicted as pushing grandma over a cliff in her wheelchair. On that level it's a gift.

It looks like Ryan was picked because there was personal chemistry with him and Mitt. Ryan might help Romney appeal to certain demographics based on his bio. His father died when he was 16 and so perhaps can talk about welfare and struggle.

I like Ryan, I can see the advantage of running with someone there's chemistry with, but he does not naturally fit the bill of someone ready to take on the job of President.

His best attribute? He's not a lawyer. Unfortunately, his wife is. She's a tax attorney.

202 posted on 08/11/2012 1:19:24 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: NYRepublican72
I do give a damn about the future of this country... But not enough...

Lilly-livered coward.

203 posted on 08/11/2012 1:24:10 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: moonshot925

The USS Wisconsin - what a fitting and metaphorically perfect place to ‘Lock and Load’.


204 posted on 08/11/2012 2:34:39 AM PDT by golas1964 (Obama must be defeated in 2012)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Mitt’s predecessor in MA, Gov Paul Celucci (R-ino) - he was the one who nominated a woman from South Africa to be Chief Justice of the SJC in MA. Hers was the deciding vote (4-3) to legalize gay marriage in MA.


205 posted on 08/11/2012 2:45:56 AM PDT by golas1964 (Obama must be defeated in 2012)
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To: sickoflibs

The only thing that would make it better would be to announce on the eve of the ‘Rat convention and complete the deflation of their balloon.


206 posted on 08/11/2012 4:06:04 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: moonshot925; All
Idea for GOP campaign slogan:
Our Country Needs Some R and R
Vote Romney and Ryan to stop government over-spending and get our economy on the Right track.

207 posted on 08/11/2012 4:14:03 AM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I rather a true tea party republican. I’m not telling you not to vote for R-R vs O-B. I’m just saying he had better choices. Palin, Rubio, Martinez, outsiders....


208 posted on 08/11/2012 4:43:35 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: marygonzo

6/12/2012 for you?!


209 posted on 08/11/2012 5:00:33 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: newzjunkey; All

Thank you, all.


210 posted on 08/11/2012 5:03:09 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: dixiechick2000; marygonzo
Retreads always give themselves away.

Also by throwing out a comment, then not responding. Haven't heard from marygonzo since. Retread for sure, IMO.

211 posted on 08/11/2012 5:17:08 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: newzjunkey
Lilly-livered coward.

Call me what you want, but I don't think my opinion is much different than our site's founder. Romney is a RINO. He does not deserve our support.

212 posted on 08/11/2012 5:40:24 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: sickoflibs

I think it will be interesting too.


213 posted on 08/11/2012 6:09:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: sickoflibs; dalebert

I think it may be quite interesting too.


214 posted on 08/11/2012 6:11:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: tsowellfan

If you think it’s bad now, wait until 2016 (if Obama wins again) it’s unlikely a conservative or even a RINO will get in.

&&&
If the Soros Administration gets another 4 years, it is the end of the USA. And I am not being melodramatic. The Socialists and Marxists must be stopped.

But I guess I am not telling you anything you do not already know. The problem is getting the message to millions of Americans who just do not understand how much the Marxists hate a strong and proud America and want to see her bowed and bloodied.

We need to pray daily for our country. And all of us can only hope that God will give us another chance with a new administration that will actually do the right thing.


215 posted on 08/11/2012 6:29:50 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Announcing Paul Ryan as VP to a sea of white people..


216 posted on 08/11/2012 6:39:57 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: treetopsandroofs
Can someone please summarize what’s really, really bad about Ryan?

He has a plan to cut entitlements. Some are addicted to those.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/253503/entitlement-reform-yuval-levin

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52625.html

217 posted on 08/11/2012 6:49:31 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Did anyone else hear someone elses voice while Romney was speaking? Someone answering their cell phone maybe?


218 posted on 08/11/2012 6:50:59 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: dalebert

Yep, very refreshing. I’m so sick to death of diversity, I could hack a gallon bucket sized loogie.

Don’t get me wrong, I like all people. I just get sick and tired of having some contrived vision of “differences” and not shared beliefs crammed down my throat.


219 posted on 08/11/2012 6:55:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: tcrlaf

Reagan picked George H.W. Bush as VP


220 posted on 08/11/2012 7:10:48 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (It's 3 AM. Let me sleep on it. I'll get back to you in 16 hours.)
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To: steve86
If it's Ryan the Republicans will lose big. Practically every one of the 50%+ on government transfer payments of some kind will vote against the Republican ticket.

So what you seem to be saying is that the Republicans should change their platform to embrace the welfare society?

221 posted on 08/11/2012 7:52:25 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: CurlyBill
It appears Obama is already in your throat...

You socked it to "marygonzo" on that one. She's been silenced and probably crawled back under the rock she crawled out from under. Good job!

222 posted on 08/11/2012 8:00:39 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Maybe just don’t taunt them so blatantly.


223 posted on 08/11/2012 8:29:50 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Some people will never be satisfied. They ony other choice was Rubio and he presented his own set of difficulties.


224 posted on 08/11/2012 8:43:59 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jake8898

If that is indeed the case, this Republic is finished and deserves to fall into the ash heap of history. I believe that we still hold a bare majority that wants this country to survive and succeed. This election is the last chance.


225 posted on 08/11/2012 9:11:58 AM PDT by kabar
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To: steve86

At this point everything matters.


226 posted on 08/11/2012 9:13:26 AM PDT by kabar
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To: steve86

I just came from the Manassas, VA rally. There were plenty of “seasoned” citizens there. HUGE turnout - people are thrilled about Ryan.

The only people there for Obama were paid to be there - a few “Educators for Obama” and some thugs who were bussed in from “elsewhere.”


227 posted on 08/11/2012 4:14:50 PM PDT by Belle22
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To: Belle22
There were plenty of “seasoned” citizens there

Poll a few from Florida and see what they think. Better yet, poll them a few weeks from now. Enthusiast gatherings never tell you anything you didn't already know.

228 posted on 08/11/2012 4:23:57 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

If people have lived through 4 years of Obama and still want to keep him in office, they are fools or traitors.

I’m tired of the selfish senior meme. If people don’t want to pull together to save this country, they’ll have a lot less than they do now. Let them go back to the Northeast and secede.


229 posted on 08/11/2012 5:34:47 PM PDT by Belle22
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To: steve86

If you were born into that it’s hard to dream about a return of something you never knew. Granted.


230 posted on 08/11/2012 6:00:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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231 posted on 08/11/2012 6:50:18 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: sickoflibs
ryan eh ??? wohhhhoooo... wait...what ???

we're sposed to vote for president, not vice president...thats a twofer FAIL !!!

232 posted on 08/11/2012 8:22:44 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne; dalebert; Impy; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”ryan eh ??? wohhhhoooo... wait...what ???
we're sposed to vote for president, not vice president...thats a twofer FAIL !!!

This whole Ryan conservative hero thing appears manufactured to me. I remember first hearing 'them' start this “,,,he's so smart,serious brave and he really understands budget issues..” back in mid 2010 over Obama-care.

Ryan has a real history of standard Republicans real positions and votes like TARP and that 2011 debt extension bill that Republicans like him supported and now try to blame Obama for. That is why Romney picked him.

Then the famous ‘Ryan plan’ that became a loyalty vote in the House and soon forgotten afterward and Republicans did their best to avoid talking about it as Dems try to use it.

Here's something to watch for. See if Romney or Ryan make the specifics of the Ryan plan an issue in the campaign, or they just try to dodge it as they have been .
We are supposed to follow Romney/Ryan because the Dems complain about the Ryan plan regardless of what he is doing.

Supported TARP
-Auto Bailouts
-Medicare Plan D
-Every Bush budget, no cuts
-No Child Left Behind

233 posted on 08/11/2012 8:54:58 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs
Supported TARP
-Auto Bailouts
-Medicare Plan D
-Every Bush budget, no cuts
-No Child Left Behind

Out of curiosity, did any Republican -- in the House or Senate -- vote "No" on all of the above?

234 posted on 08/11/2012 9:02:33 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE002)
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To: okie01
RE :”Out of curiosity, did any Republican — in the House or Senate — vote “No” on all of the above?

The auto-bailout was defeated in the 2008 vote largely by Republicans and afterward Bush unilaterally used TARP funds on his own for the mini-bailout.

235 posted on 08/11/2012 9:07:05 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: SueRae; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne; dalebert; Impy; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”The only thing that would make it better would be to announce on the eve of the ‘Rat convention and complete the deflation of their balloon.

They don’t seem too worried about it. Are you expecting some huge ground-s-well of voter support over Ryan?

Ryan :
-Supported TARP
-Auto Bailouts
-Medicare Plan D
-Every Bush budget, no cuts
-No Child Left Behind
- He backed a bill in 2007 to bar employer discrimination based on sexual orientation, saying at the time that his gay friends "didn't choose to be gay."

And more recently that 2011 debt extension bill that he supported and Republicans now try to blame Obama for(the automatic cuts).

236 posted on 08/11/2012 9:10:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: okie01
RE :”Out of curiosity, did any Republican — in the House or Senate — vote “No” on all of the above?”

You must recall the sad history of how TARP was passed. I still find it painful to think of.

Ryan's history of being a Republican loyalist first has paid off for him.

237 posted on 08/11/2012 9:17:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: moonshot925

“My Dad died when I was young, he was an exceptional man. One thing I remember him saying was that if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the rpoblem. Regretably, President Obama has become part of the problem, and Mitt Romney is the solution.

“Whatever the explanations, whatever the excuses, his is a record of failure.

“President Obama, and too many like him in Washington, have refused to make difficult decisions because they are more worried about their next election than they are about the next generation.

“It is our duty to save the American Dream for our children, and theirs.

“I’m proud to stand with a man who understands what it takes to foster job creation in our economy, someone who knows from experience, that if you have a small business—you did build that.

“We Americans look at one another’s success with pride, not resentment, because we know, as more Americans work hard, take risks, and succeed, more people will prosper, our communities will benefit, and individual lives will be improved and uplifted.

“But America is more than just a place...it’s an idea. It’s the only country founded on an idea. Our rights come from nature and God, not government. We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes.

“This idea is founded on the principles of liberty, freedom, free enterprise, self-determination and government by consent of the governed.

“The commitment Mitt Romney and I make to you is this:

“We won’t duck the tough issues...we will lead!

“We won’t blame others...we will take responsibility!

“We won’t replace our founding principles...we will reapply them!

“We can turn this thing around. Real solutions can be delivered. But, it will take leadership. And the courage to tell you the truth.

“Mitt Romney is this kind of leader. I’m excited for what lies ahead and I’m thrilled to be a part of America’s Comeback Team. And together, we will unite America and get this done.”

Paul Ryan, August 11, 2012m accepting the VP position with Mitt Romney.

http://www.businessinsider.com/paul-ryan-romney-vp-speech-vice-president-2012-8#ixzz23J1OBrL0


238 posted on 08/11/2012 10:50:27 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: sickoflibs

Hey, at least he’s in the right wing of the GOPE. Eh? ;D

Plenty of worse choices both in terms of helping with the campaign and governing.


239 posted on 08/12/2012 12:37:44 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: sickoflibs

I find myself in a position where I don’t want Romney, and I for damned sure don’t want Obama. I also find myself not finding either the Romney or Obama team to be worthy of my vote. What’s worse, I also realize that Romney will do more damage to the nation, not repair it, and Obama would come close to destroying it.

Some will say that Romney will at least fix the employment scene, get people back to work, and improve our fiscal soundness. Okay, what do I base that on?

Did Bush improve our employment scene and fiscal soundness?

Yes, Romney would probably increase jobs, level out the real estate situation, and improve on our economic standing. And it’s my take he would do all this using severely flawed methods, laying more land mines we’d be stepping on for the next decade.

We are in a world of hurt.

The one brighter aspect of this, is that Ryan can at least defend himself. He can at least articulate a thought process and take down Biden, and do severe damage to Obama.

Then what? You’ve listed the parts that should worry us. Many of us find that it does.

Then Sarah swoops in to the rescue, okay folks, I endorse them, you now have my blessing to support them too.

We’ve got one mell of a hess on our hands.

It’s just what we said it would be like last March.

It’s so bad that people who endorse these folks aren’t doing much more than soiling themselves.

There’s an old saying, that in a system like ours, people pretty much get what they deserve. I can buy into that to a point, but no people deserve what we’re now faced with.

Shame on you Republicans. It has finally come to this, where even the professed ‘shining star’, has had to stoop to approving of what we have lofted for occupancy of the White House.

Well folks, enjoy...


240 posted on 08/12/2012 6:17:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne; sickoflibs

” Shame on you Republicans. It has finally come to this, where even the professed ‘shining star’, has had to stoop to approving of what we have lofted for occupancy of the White House.

Well folks, enjoy...”

Not much to enjoy : )


241 posted on 08/15/2012 10:12:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”The one brighter aspect of this, is that Ryan can at least defend himself. He can at least articulate a thought process and take down Biden, and do severe damage to Obama.

Ryan was interviewed by Britt Hume and it wasn't pretty. Britt asked him questions about the 'Romney (now the Romney-Ryan ) budget' and Ryan stumbled and couldn't answer them,

So much for the budget wizard we were promised who would debate circles around anyone. He had a similar problem as Palin 2008, he has to take on someone elses (Romney's) positions without knowing how to explain them.

242 posted on 08/15/2012 1:46:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

I didn’t see the program, but it seems to me that you’re going to have some situations like this in the beginning. If he’s still coughing and sputtering three to five weeks from now, yikes.


243 posted on 08/15/2012 6:11:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”I didn’t see the program, but it seems to me that you’re going to have some situations like this in the beginning. If he’s still coughing and sputtering three to five weeks from now, yike

That was on FNC with Britt Hume. There is no more friendly an audience. And it was about their proposed budget, supposedly Ryans super point.

He was tripped up because as watered down the Ryan plan is to cater to certain voting groups, Romney's plan is even weaker, Britt was asking him when it would bring the budget in balance. So Ryan wasn't sure how to respond directly.

244 posted on 08/15/2012 9:15:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

I’m not sure how you answer when a plan will bring the budget back in balance. It’s an idiotic question at this point. I’d shoot for ASAP, hopefully in 24 to 36 months, but a lot hinges on when the economy blasts off, and by how much it does.

When Reagan came into office there was an economic downturn he had to overcome. It took him two to three years, and that was a small situation compared to this.

It’s hard enough balancing the budget with a healthy economy, and now we’ve got a really sick economy. Good luck there.

The important thing now is to get people back to work, and at the same time devise strategies that will see us capitalize on the growing economy to reduce handouts while giving folks incentives to get back to work.

We could lop an easy $500 billion out of Welfare in six months or less. Sorry folks, get off your ass and get moving...


245 posted on 08/15/2012 10:10:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: sickoflibs

Can’t tell you how many times I hear of folks living in section eight. Does anyone at all besides me pay rent or a mortgage anymore?


246 posted on 08/15/2012 10:11:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne
RE: “Can’t tell you how many times I hear of folks living in section eight. Does anyone at all besides me pay rent or a mortgage anymore?

I live in the 7th richest county in the country (according to Money magazine) and yet section 8 has destroyed many neighborhoods here that have apartments in them with eelfare crime cases. They eat up huge police, public school and medical resources (our tax $$$) and they pay little or no taxes as ours keep on going up.

You may not know this but small businesses support section 8 as they do a local county program here called affordable housing where the county helps a lower income family/person buy a house in nice neighborhood with our tax money, paying about half the price and being co-owner. They also like amnesty for illegals even though long term these work against them politically.

Businesses like this because it's cheaper nearby labor that they don't pay for directly.

247 posted on 08/16/2012 4:59:17 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs; DoughtyOne

” Britt was asking him when it would bring the budget in balance. So Ryan wasn’t sure how to respond directly. “

I wouldn’t know how to respond to “when” either.
widh I had seen the show.


248 posted on 08/16/2012 12:21:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :”widh I had seen the show.

Brit Hume Interviews Paul Ryan On Budget, Medicare And Tax Cuts

249 posted on 08/16/2012 12:30:53 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

I have heard of the Affordable Housing program, but I don’t know anything about it. Doesn’t surprise me much these days.

I agree with your take on small businesses.

What winds up happening, and you address it quite well, is that it destroys communities. Areas where Section 8 comes in, are soon hell holes.

Even the people who come in under it, are not safe. It’s basically a screw job of everyone involved, and anyone who lives anywhere close to them.


250 posted on 08/17/2012 12:56:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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