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FACT CHECK: Questionable claims in veep debut (AP at it already)
AP/pioneer press ^ | 8-11-12 | CALVIN WOODWARD and HENRY C. JACKSON

Posted on 08/11/2012 12:58:34 PM PDT by TurboZamboni

WASHINGTON—In his debut as Mitt Romney's running mate, Paul Ryan promised "America's comeback team" won't duck tough budget issues, although the man standing next to him has kept his head low so far. Romney vowed the duo would "preserve" Medicare, an eye-popping claim considering Ryan wants to transform the program from the ground up. Not all the rhetoric fit neatly with reality or with the record when Romney introduced his Republican vice presidential choice to the nation Saturday. A look at some of the claims by the Wisconsin congressman and Romney, and how they compare with the facts.

ROMNEY: "Unlike the current president, who has cut Medicare funding by $700 billion, we will preserve and protect Medicare and Social Security and keep them there for future generations."

THE FACTS:

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008electionbias; 2012electionbias; 2012veep; agitprop; americanpravda; ap; apbias; asspress; buttociatedpress; dnctalkingpoints; factcheck; getryan; obamatruthfile; obamawasntvetted; paulryan; presstitutes; ryan; yellowjournalism; zogbyism
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To: Pollster1
I left out wimpy bully.

-PJ

21 posted on 08/11/2012 2:26:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: TurboZamboni

If a news story labels itself as a ‘fact check’, its a pretty safe bet that the story is pure editorial opinion and the reporter thinks putting the word ‘fact’ in the headlines will somehow give their opinions more credility with the intended audience.

I can’t count the number of ‘Fact Check’ articles I have read this year that amount to ‘Yes the conservatives candidate’s numbers are correct but its very unfair to measure the success of Obama’s programs in objective terms’ or ‘Yes, the liberal candidate’s statements were techically wrong but he meant well so we should give him credit for that.’

Note to liberal reporters: facts are objective things like numbers or dates, not interpretations. If you want to advance the argument that MediCare can be better ‘preserved’ by promising much more than we can possibly afford to deliver until the system collapses than by matching promises with revenue, at least have the decency to call your piece an editorial opinion.


22 posted on 08/11/2012 2:27:38 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: CaptainMorgantown
"Note to liberal reporters: facts are objective things like numbers or dates, not interpretations. If you want to advance the argument that MediCare can be better ‘preserved’ by promising much more than we can possibly afford to deliver until the system collapses than by matching promises with revenue, at least have the decency to call your piece an editorial opinion."

Expecting decency from lieberal reporters? Wow, talk about being optimistic!

23 posted on 08/11/2012 2:39:03 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: GreyFriar

Of course the Communist media will try to destroy Ryan. Conservative friends have already called me to share their joy that Romney picked Ryan as his VP.


24 posted on 08/11/2012 3:07:29 PM PDT by zot
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To: Pearls Before Swine

If Obama wins a second term, what makes you think that the federal government in Washington DC will still be standing in 2016?


25 posted on 08/11/2012 3:11:57 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: GreyFriar
I'm not surprised. We can't just get rid of Medicare at this stage, but we can gradually transition the younger generation to taking more financial responsibility for their health care. The Ryan plan will achieve that end of at least move us in that direction. It's the right thing to do. Dems just want to let everything go on. Eventually, the program will fall apart and there will be nothing left for anyone. I think all but the brain dead Obama true believers recognize that the Democrats are the ones who want to destroy Medicare.
26 posted on 08/11/2012 3:25:07 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: sergeantdave
If Obama wins a second term, what makes you think that the federal government in Washington DC will still be standing in 2016?

Revolution is hard to do.

Short of that, there will be a show of form over substance.

27 posted on 08/11/2012 3:29:50 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Steely Tom
R&R are running against Obama and the media. I wonder if they realize this?

Romney's team may not, but Ryan's successfully been reelected in a heavily Democrat district, what, six times? I assume he knows this. Whether Romney's team will listen to him, or Palinize him is another story.

28 posted on 08/11/2012 3:35:47 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: TurboZamboni

This is the same AP that said four years ago that they would put opinion or editorialize in their reporting and not just in their opinion pieces.


29 posted on 08/11/2012 4:17:27 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: clamper1797

Yep. Of course, any Medicare proposal is met with howls of “now Granny will have to eat dog food” and SCARE THE PANTS OFF THE SENIORS!


30 posted on 08/11/2012 4:33:05 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“Revolution is hard to do.”

And trying to maintain a commie regime with a bunch of fat-ass clowns who have never been steeped in combat is even more hard to do, ie, see Kaddhafi’s mercenaries and elite guard who ended up hanging from lampposts. Kaddhafi’s chief of the army was dragged into the courtyard and got his brains blown out.

Always a pleasure to talk with you, Pearls Before Swine. Best wishes to you and your family.


31 posted on 08/11/2012 6:37:54 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Twinkie

On current medicare granny already has to eat dog food if she has nothing else to rely on. But with the Chile plan, or the Galveston plan...granny could eat a lot better with the savings she’s invested as opposed to the current plan where politicians consfiscate her money and use it to buy votes.

The rat plan...keep them begging.


32 posted on 08/11/2012 7:35:04 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Aria

“The rat plan...keep them begging.”

Yep. Begging; and on the Democrat Plantation.


33 posted on 08/12/2012 5:52:19 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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