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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: nicmarlo

LOL, so there is no precise number at this moment, but it is somewhere in the dozens?

It was obvious enough that you were lying, and after several posts, we can accept it as proven that you were making it up.


2,821 posted on 08/13/2012 5:30:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: nicmarlo
they are. I have seen dozens leave in just the past few days

Well, I asked him if he could document that. Your seconding doesn't exactly document it. Were there "opuses", or declarations of, "I'm leaving and won't be back"?

I've seriously thought of staying away until after the election myself but not for any reasons given by Mitt supporters or detractors.

Members here are very politically aware and I honestly don't believe a single one will change his mind because of any arguments put forward by pro or con Romney. Every political thread has pro and con Romney comments. My mind has been made up before Romney was even thought about as a candidate and probably pre dates his father's aborted run for the presidency. I cannot and will not vote for anyone who swallows Mormonism, add to that that Romney's a flaming liberal and it becomes doubly impossible to do so. There are many of us who are dedicated to exposing Mormonism for what it is and praying for those who are wrapped up in this false religion and have been doing so long before Romney came to the forefront. Are we to stop our efforts to educate, pray for and try to expose Mormons to the truth, now that Romney is the candidate?

2,822 posted on 08/13/2012 5:31:09 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: Graybeard58

I quit posting here for 2 1/2 years. No opus, no declarations. That’s just how some people leave forever. They just go. And many have.


2,823 posted on 08/13/2012 5:32:12 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Elsie

///// Remember what the scripture says....”be wise as serpents”....

and...

2 John 1:10
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

SURELY this would include, “Do NOT make him your leader to rule over you.” as well; right? /////

by not voting or voting 3rd party you insure that you make Obama “your leader to rule over you. as well; right”?

my god......we are under the leadership of false teachings everyday.....our kids at school....or bosses....you can go on and on......we recognize it and move forward in our faith......

again....we are not electing church elders.....

these men are our choices like it or not.....how can one hand it to the one dedicated to destroying your country??????

had Daniel shunned Nebuchadnezzar the story would have been much different but.....he worked within the system he found himself and never gave up his faith.....


2,824 posted on 08/13/2012 5:33:58 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Why are you bringing your religion up? I made no mention of your religion, nor made any implications regarding it.

You posts have an arrogant quality to them. Period.


2,825 posted on 08/13/2012 5:34:10 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: Graybeard58

Are we to stop our efforts to educate, pray for and try to expose Mormons to the truth, now that Romney is the candidate?

***well, yeah, duhh... in order to be a good republican, doncha know? ... . . .. /s, for those in Rio Vista


2,826 posted on 08/13/2012 5:34:32 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Colofornian; mojitojoe

A mention at Daily Kos and a guy at twitter, freerepublic is going to collapse under this onslaught.


2,827 posted on 08/13/2012 5:34:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Graybeard58
Are we to stop our efforts to educate, pray for and try to expose Mormons to the truth, now that Romney is the candidate?

Oh, the MittBots and mormon defenders along with the other anti-Christians certainly hope so!

2,828 posted on 08/13/2012 5:35:26 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Mr. Pope, please accept my sincere apology for affronting you with my recent comments. I had no idea you are a mature man of 79 years. By your writings, I presumed you were much, much younger and not well-mannered as a man of 79 should be.

I am ashamed that I did not perceive that advanced age may have caught up with you and that explains a lot about you and how you post on FR.

Not quite 66, I defer to your greater number of years and regret not showing you the proper respect you should be receiving, because of your age.


2,829 posted on 08/13/2012 5:35:33 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Graybeard58
Are we to stop our efforts to educate, pray for and try to expose Mormons to the truth, now that Romney is the candidate?

If Jesus were here, and He was trying to win over and educate the Mormons, I better see Him as He spoke to the adulterous woman, who, after being dragged through the town by the pharisees, hoping and expecting that Christ would probably stone her Himself, instead stooped to the ground and wrote in the dirt. He ended up saying, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." All the pharisees walked away, and Christ looked at the woman and said, 'where are your accusers." And she said, 'they are gone.' And He responded with "neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more."

That is how people are won over, with love, not hammers, not law.

2,831 posted on 08/13/2012 5:36:55 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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2,832 posted on 08/13/2012 5:37:37 PM PDT by Capt. Canuck
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To: Third Person

You = your


2,833 posted on 08/13/2012 5:38:00 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: ansel12

Oh.....young Ansel.

In my edict- I forgot about my favorite label “TROLL”.

“Not a Christian”, “Not Conservative” and when all else fails.....a TROLL!!

I do not recall seeing your name on the thread a lot in the last few days. I’ve been involved in this discussion from fairly early on.

I would be quite surprised if you had read any of my post. Frankly, I don’t like you so I have only read the ones that have appeared in response to my writing. Nor would I look back to see what you were all about. I find you disrespectful and misguided.

However, I have been on this site for many years, not always as a poster, but always around. I remain here at the pleasure of the owner and it has been my experience that Mr. Robinson enjoys spirited debate.

Those things said, while I have absolutely no need to defend myself against a recalcitrant, name thrower, if you truly want to know my opinions about G*d, this incredible country I love or my deep love and respect for the Christian faith (the TRUE, G*d and Christ centered Christian faith- not a perverted, intolerant hate-filled, hijacked faith I have seen exhibited here by some lately) you will have to read my old posts on your own.

If you don’t care- don’t bother. As I said, I have no desire to know anymore about you than I already do.


2,834 posted on 08/13/2012 5:38:14 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

That anti-christian diatribe is full of shiite. Don’t you realize that the owner of this website is precisely one of those people you described? Why come here if it bothers you so?

There is no reasoning with these people, therefore there is no reason to continue to converse with them.
***And yet, you continue to converse on this thread. Your attempts at reason are rather shallow.


2,835 posted on 08/13/2012 5:40:13 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: ansel12

Ansel, that you would expect me to have precise numbers, when I never said I had, is a straw man logical fallacy.

I said there were DOZENS who’ve left, just in the past few days. That is a fact whether you accept it or not.

If you want confirmation, go to JR. He knows the PRECISE numbers.


2,836 posted on 08/13/2012 5:40:13 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Third Person; CWSNTEXAS

CWSNTEXAS mentions his religion constantly, he sees it as having dramatic effect or something, who knows, but it is definitely something that he posts a lot on this thread.


2,837 posted on 08/13/2012 5:41:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, you need to see post 2830. The cowardly poster didn’t ping you.


2,838 posted on 08/13/2012 5:41:27 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Resettozero

Mr. Reset-

Thank you for your kind remarks. And rest assured that I will not take seriously anything you write as I had no idea you were so young that your mother probably still cuts up your meat.


2,839 posted on 08/13/2012 5:42:40 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: nicmarlo; ansel12
I quit posting here for 2 1/2 years. No opus, no declarations. That’s just how some people leave forever. They just go. And many have.

That just doesn't jibe with your former reply to me of:

I have seen dozens leave in just the past few days.

If you've seen "dozens leave in just the past few days", "no opus, no declarations", how can you know they are gone?

You cannot document in any way that people have left, by the dozens, no less, in the past few days and for the reasons you have stated.

2,840 posted on 08/13/2012 5:44:30 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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