“I am a BAD Catholic.”
Whether he is good or bad is between he and the church.
joe biteme has already excommunicated himself by his support for abortion which the Catholic Church teaches is a mortal sin.
I guarantee that Paul Ryan is a far better Catholic than either Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden. Let’s start with them first...
Considering the same people who make this accusation about Ryan support pro Abortion on demand politicians like Biden and Obama, it pretty clear who the BAD Catholics are here.
Guess the Liberal Catholics missed the part about caring for the poor being a personal, not Government imposed, responsibility.
So now the liberals want a religious test???
Whenever I hear someone claim to be or to have been “perusing”, the pomposity just blanks out everything.
Sorry.
NOT!!! How blatant in their hypocritical lefty bias could the LA Slimes be?
Liberal Catholics are apostates who have embraced the social gospel of liberation theology or Christian socialism. This gospel has very little to do with salvation, redemption and what God can do through your life but what you can do to make the world a better place through feel good activities. The final fruits of liberation theology is the powerless, useless faith that St. Paul prophesies about in II Timothy 3. They are no competent judge on anything.
Amb-ASS-ador Kennedy, JFK, Dead Ted, Nancy Bimbosi.
You want Catholics in h*ll (or going there), you might look their way.
Nice try, LAT.
Shove it up your collective smelly Obamas.
If this is all they've got, Obama's going to lose.
I missed the previous articles in this series by the TIMES.
Is Pelosi a bad catholic?
Is kennedy a bad catholic?
Is -———— (fill in the blank) a bad catholic?
Do these people really expect us to believe God has an opinion on whether the top Marginal Rate for Income Tax in the United States should be 36% or 39%?
They are arguing against their straw man version of Ryan that wants to throw Granny off a cliff. Nobody wants to do that. Well, Ryan certainly doesnt. The Obamacare Death Panel may be another matter...
A rather dull-headed column, equating opposition to abortion and homosexual marriage to support for certain kinds of social spending.
I’m not a Roman Catholic, but I know that even the most socialist-minded Bishop does not equate opposition to homicide of babies or sodomy as morally equal to certain strategies for helping the poor.
Do Ryan or other conservative Roman Catholics (or any other conservatives in the USA) support ignoring and starving the poor, a la a Caste-system in India? NO.
Opposition to government-led socialist solutions (really aggravations...) to poverty does not make one a hater of the poor.
The “Great Society” has not exactly been a smashing success, and if Democrat social spending drives the US gov. broke—now THAT really will hurt the poor, and all of us.
Further evidence that liberals are both stupid and evil:
“[Michael Sean] Winters nicely deconstructs, in both senses of the word, Ryan’s assertion that his opposition to federal social spending reflects the Catholic doctrine of ‘subsidiarity’ — the notion that issues should be resolved ‘at the level of social organization closest to the individual.’ Problem is, Winters writes, Ryan is not advocating innovative anti-poverty programs at the local level.”
If you understand subsidiarity, you understand that IT ISN’T THE JOB OR THE PLACE of a Representative to the FEDERAL Congress to figure out “innovative anti-poverty programs at the local level.”
That’s kinda the whole point of the teaching.
Now it comes - in view of his popularity and his status as the next Vice President of the United States-Republican, the liberal press will stoop to any depths to smear him.
from the article: “Winters nicely deconstructs, in both senses of the word, Ryan’s assertion that his opposition to federal social spending reflects the Catholic doctrine of “subsidiarity” — the notion that issues should be resolved “at the level of social organization closest to the individual.” Problem is, Winters writes, Ryan is not advocating innovative anti-poverty programs at the local level.”
This does not make sense: Ryan is not running for local office. If he were running for local office, that it might make sense to ask him about his positions on local issues.
Further, the article assumes that federal social welfare spending is actually good for the poor. All the evidence is to the contrary. First of all, are the poor really poor? In America, the “poor” are on average more obese than the non-poor. They also tend to have mobile phones, air conditioning, cable television, free time, clothing, medical care, shelter, public education, etc... - all things that the poor, as understood in the rest of the world and in, at least as I read it, the Bible, would not be expected to have. So I am not really sure how applicable Catholic social teaching is to this situation. One also has to look at the differences in competence on the part of the bishops when it comes to different kids of issues. For example, when it comes to which economic policy will best help the American poor, assuming they really are poor, the bishops have zero claim to greater competence than anyone else (and many of them are quite daft on the subject). However, when it comes to faith and morals, such as whether it is ok to kill unborn children or same-sex sexual activity, then yes if you are Catholic you should get on board with the bishops. All of this is to say that Paul Ryan has a far greater claim to Catholicism than do the likes of liberal so-called Catholics like Pelosi, Biden, John Kerry, the Kennedys, et al.
AS IF Jerry Brown or Nancy Pelosi support Catholic Church teachings on abortion and homosexuality.
Nancy had the balls earlier this year to declare the Pope “wrong” on abortion.
McGouugh and Winters are clueless on the teachings of the Catholic Church, as presented by the Vatican, The Bible, and The Catechism.
Ryan, on the other hand, is quite in concert with all three.
“I am a BAD Catholic.”
If you accept the proposition that the hierarchy is the determinative source of Catholic teaching… the conservatives have the better of the argument.
Of course, if you get to make it up or pick MTV as the determinative source of Catholic teaching...