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Chesterfield man held in hospital on concerns over Internet posts
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/news/2012/aug/19/tdmet02-chesterfield-man-held-in-hospital-on-conce-ar-2140519/ ^ | August 19, 2012 | Peter BacquƩ

Posted on 08/19/2012 4:58:04 AM PDT by iceskater

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To: Texas Gal

Thanks Texas Gal. I was agreeing with his post until he got to the 9-11 stuff. Still, it seems there are many on Facebook and other forums that are of similar belief. I’m guessing they have more on this guy.


61 posted on 08/19/2012 8:00:02 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: mlizzy

I looked.

On aug 14th or so, he posted pix and link to youtube vids about 9/11.

Hmmmmm....


62 posted on 08/19/2012 8:09:21 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: iceskater
Thoughtcrime.

Folks, your calender may show 2012 but we are living "1984".

63 posted on 08/19/2012 8:10:31 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Gaffer

If calling for the arrest of all the corrupt elected officials was a detainable offense we don’t have enough jail cells to hold everyone.


64 posted on 08/19/2012 8:23:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Actually, he didn’t say “corrupt”....he mentioned evil, etc. but not corrupt....I believer what actually cemented the weak, non prosecuted case against him was a comment to the effect that he would “....act himself.....” weak as it is. That’s why he’s being held - for a better defended psychiatric pretext.

He expressed his disdain in a forum that is inhabited by many people that are not afraid to drop a dime on him by saying they were “scared and afraid he’s a gun rampaging terrorist” even though he says he doesn’t own a gun.

If you feel the need to publicize yourself to the world, do it on Facebook where even the mouth-breathing liberal ideologue is just itching to take a conservative to the wood shed.


65 posted on 08/19/2012 8:38:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: iceskater

Because he had not done anything illegal, he has not been arrested. But when somebody writes or says something that sounds threatening or menacing, most states allow ‘detention’ for psychiatric evaluation, for up to but not more than two weeks. If they are not severely mentally ill, which is obvious, they are then released.

And this happens a lot. Potential suicides, public breakdowns that are unresponsive, even disorientation and confusion (often by elderly without identification), and yes, what are interpreted as unfocused threats. Many are called in by family members.

The police are not too gleeful about doing this, because most short term psychiatric facilities are booked solid with “two weekers”. And they cannot give serious drugs to most of them.


66 posted on 08/19/2012 9:35:58 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Truth29

Next step is concentration camps for christians and conservatives..


67 posted on 08/19/2012 10:19:18 AM PDT by goat granny
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68 posted on 08/19/2012 10:33:35 AM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: Savage Beast

Yes, they drugged them up with sedatives it was called “sleep psychosis”.


69 posted on 08/19/2012 11:00:33 AM PDT by Perdogg (It's time to come together for America)
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To: iceskater

I am watching this one closely. I want to see what the accusations are against this man. So far, it looks like an overreaction on the part of government. I’ll have to see more to convince me otherwise.


70 posted on 08/19/2012 12:15:33 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: iceskater

I guess he has two facebook pages???

https://www.facebook.com/raub.brandon?sk=wall


71 posted on 08/19/2012 7:51:37 PM PDT by txgirl4Bush (2012 can't come soon enough!)
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To: iceskater

He better have a 72 hour TDO tomorrow morning or he is going to get a nice payday from Chesterfield County, John Randolph Hospital and the city of Hopewell when he files the civil lawsuit.


72 posted on 08/19/2012 8:15:00 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Virginia has fairly strict laws on his behalf and if they are not followed, a bunch of state inspectors are going to come down on that Hospital like a ton bricks. They have until Monday morning to give him a hearing or he walks. You cannot do back to back 48 hour holds in Virginia, but you can hold over the weekend. They could arrest him again once he gets out, but Chesterfield County will have to charge him with something and hold him in the regional jail.


73 posted on 08/19/2012 8:36:39 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA

I doubt they will do anything other than release him. He hasn’t broken any laws. But right now a lot of police are in a CYA mode, scared that they will let a real nut loose, and he will promptly try to kill a bunch of people.

If someone can maintain for a weekend in the equivalent of a padded cell, but much nicer, it is highly unlikely they are a threat.


74 posted on 08/19/2012 9:02:54 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; iceskater

now it gets interesting, he had his hearing and they decided to hold him for 30 days on a Mental Health warrant which normally has a pretty high bar to reach. More details here.

http://www.examiner.com/article/brandon-raub-not-released-following-hearing


75 posted on 08/20/2012 2:22:06 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA

When a person is undergoing a psychiatric diagnosis, a key indicator of mental illness is that they tell the psychiatrist “what they really think”.

It actually makes sense, in that a sane person is at least somewhat scared, concerned for his well being, and doesn’t want to be seen as a kook. So sane people adjust their behavior to appear to be extra stable, not say things that are intended to disturb, and don’t talk about things they might truly believe, that they think others will see as abnormal. The proof of their sanity is that they are able to do this.

However, a person who is mentally ill is often too distracted or exhausted to make the effort. Importantly, this often does not indicate what kind of mental illness is at work, just that the person is mentally ill enough that it needs to be determined what their mental illness is, and what, if any, underlying cause it has.

Surprisingly, one of the biggest indicators of mental illness is that, when a person is asked if they think they are mentally ill, they reply “yes”.


76 posted on 08/20/2012 3:00:17 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ClayinVA

I heard on the radio this afternoon that the Rutherford Institute is helping him file an appeal of the judge’s ruling.

http://www.1140wrva.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=128979&article=10355070


77 posted on 08/20/2012 3:19:53 PM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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