Romney says Ryan won't oppose abortion in rape cases (Romney supports both rape & incest abortion)

JS Online ^ | Aug. 20, 2012 | James Rowen

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Odious remarks by GOP Missouri Senate candidate Cong. Todd Akin about how few pregnancies result from "legitimate rape" have done more than outrage people across the country and doom Akin's bid to move up from the House.

It motivated the Romney campaign - - already trailing among women voters in recent polls - - to distance itself from Akin by assuring voters that Romney and Paul Ryan - - the "Romney-Ryan administration" - - should they win in November, would not oppose raped women's access to abortion.

"Governor Romney and Congressman (Paul) Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said.

You'd probably say that sounds reasonable and humane - - except it was just three days ago that PolitiFact devoted a lot of space to this issue and found that while Romney backed abortions in cases of incest and rape, Ryan did not.

And had been an abortion opponent throughout his entire political career - - backing an exception only when the life of the mother was at stake - - thus earning a perfect score from a leading anti-abortion organization on this basic tenet of conservative ideology and practice.

News coverage of Ryan’s first congressional race in 1998, as well as statements he made to the National Right to Life Committee, a leading anti-abortion group, show Ryan has taken a stricter anti-abortion view than Romney.

The only anti-abortion exception Ryan favors is situations where an abortion is needed to save the life of the mother, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. The National Right to Life Committee concurs, based on information the group says it collected in 1998 and 2000 from Ryan as a candidate.

[mnehring]

Bump 219
Good catch.

[Impy]

Wrong. He’s “praying” about it tonight, announcement tomorrow.

What’s “tough” is his shattered dream to be a Senator. If his selfishness costs us this seat his career is over whether he likes it or not.

If he is not much stupider than I think he will do the right thing.

[randita]

A Freeper wrote that he’s in the first stage of grief - “denial”. He certainly seemed that way today with Hannity.

Let’s hope he moves through the rest of the stages of grief at a record pace and reaches “acceptance” by 5:00 tomorrow.

If he does, he will live to fight another day. If he doesn’t, his future in the GOP is over.

[randita]

Mädchen.

On a Mac, you press Option/Alt and U, then type the letter you want the umlaut to appear over - in this case “a”. Or you can pull up Character Viewer.

I imagine it would be similar on a PC.

[MEG33]

Well said..

[Impy]

I feel bad for him, he’s a good man who doesn’t deserve this but he screwed up and the country has to come first. There is no time to ask him nicely to quit. Horrible situation.

No sympathy if he decides to be obstinate though. He would be blackballed and deservedly so.

[Girlene]

I'm sure she'll remember she was raped for 9 months afterward even if she didn't get pregnant from the attack.

I never said a woman would not.

Maybe perhaps she'll have even more mental health damage coping with the fact she took something that happened to her and then used it as a reason to murder an innocent child in an attempt to "forget."

....and that is quite possible. I was merely giving a possible reason why a woman might have an abortion after a rape.

[bd476]

Thanks, Mnehring.

[sitetest]

Thanks.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”Might as well skip election day and save money with candidates like them.
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That's certainly what the “establishment” Republicans want you to do. They sure don't want them uppity tea party candidates getting elected”

Reid and Pelosi and Obama praise their lucky stars for wackjobs like Akin, but it looks like they may not be that lucky.

I guess all the money he was counting on dried up. I take it you and your MO Akin primary voters are not willing to mortgage your homes to keep him in the race. Talk is cheap.

August 20, 2012 AKIN WILL WITHDRAW: WHAT HAPPENS NOW?

[aruanan]

Reid and Pelosi and Obama praise their lucky stars for wackjobs like Akin, but it looks like they may not be that lucky.

Look at what he actually said instead of knee-jerking along with the media and politicians trying to capitalize on it and demonstrate how he's a "wackjob." He's a bit off in his numbers (odds of conception are about 4 or 5 in 20, odds of conception through rape are about 1 in 20) and there's a problem in asking someone to bring in a police report to demonstrate "legitimate rape" because the unborn shouldn't be killed in any case. There's one thing worse than what the liberal media does and that's folks such as yourself letting themselves be so thoroughly played by them and run with a meme. Grow a set (that's a metaphor) and turn the attention back on the horror of abortion instead of allowing the media and opportunists to blow you off course--unless, of course, that's a course you've wanted to go anyway and this is just a convenient excuse to go that way.

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Interestingly, Rep. Ryan co-sponsored legislation that traveled along these lines.

I think you continue to miss the point, Sitetest. It is obvious to any person of pro-life persuasion -- whether they're willing to admit it publicly or not -- that one cannot just murder a human being no matter who the father is.

In other words, a so-called pro-lifer who accepts rape and incest abortion is either a phony pro-lifer or a pro-lifer who has been trying to appease the culture despite the nagging at his conscience.

In Romney's case, given his background of radical support for abortion, one is drawn to the first -- phony pro-lifer.

Again, another reason to assert that Romney is a liar.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”Look at what he actually said instead of knee-jerking along with the media and politicians trying to capitalize on it and demonstrate how he's a “wackjob.”

He was trying to make a difficult point to get across to begin with(women will lie about rape to get an abortion) , and he blew up the whole issue claiming that women who REALLY get raped shutdown their biological systems so they don't get pregnant?? (and he is arguing against abortion and contraceptives yet?? ) Sounds like he was saying a raped woman's antibodies attack the unborn child so she doesnt need an abortion.

That is just downright stupid, and politically suicidal. The pro-abortion Dems were celibrating Christmas last night over having this new poster boy for free abortions.

[xzins]

There are only “the unfettered” now, RKBA. The Conservatives have sold their souls for a bowl of pottage.

In terms of movement conservative, I suppose I am no longer a capital “C” Conservative for they have become thoroughly untrustworthy, CINO’s.

This nation will experience 40 years in the Wilderness or direct judgment. Those who chastised others for picking a totally immoral man have themselves picked a totally immoral man. They are without excuse and shown to be hypocrites.

[xzins]

We could discuss the derivation of the idea that children are “neuter”, Site, if you wish. It actually ties into their being “above” such considerations, above being viewed as sexual beings, and directly related to their innocense.

Having said that, I thoroughly understand your point, given the war over words in our culture. We do not live in a Judeo-Christian culture any longer.

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Governor Romney and Congressman (Paul) Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said.

Does the name of the writer of the article mean that the Romney camp did not release the above statement?

It they did release the statement, then anyone reporting it is nothing more than a messenger.

[IrishBrigade]

For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places...

enim bellare noster contra carnem nec sanguinem non est: sed contra imperia et potentia, contra dominatores mundi tenebrae istae,contra spiritus malitiae in locis sublimis...

...this porton of your quote cried out to be rendered in the sacral toungue of our Holy Church...

[IrishBrigade]

For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places...

enim bellare noster contra carnem nec sanguinem non est: sed contra imperia et potentia, contra dominatores mundi tenebrae istae,contra spiritus malitiae in locis sublimis...

...this porton of your quote cried out to be rendered in the sacral toungue of our Holy Church...

[MEGoody]

As of this morning, local news is indicating Akin is staying in the race. Not sure whether our local guys are correct, or the article you linked to from yesterday is correct. Guess we'll know later today.

As a side note, if Akin drops out, the Missouri Republican Party leaders do not have to replace him with someone who ran in the primary. They can pick a totally different person (and are considering doing so).

Voters had better watch the party leadership carefully. Don't let the establishment guys get their way.

[ArrogantBustard]

I think this whole business cries out for an exorcism. The “spirits of wickedness” have completely taken control of the demonicRat Party, and have infested the Republican Party as well.