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Video: “Legitimate” rape? Update: Steelman blasts Akin
Hot Air.com ^ | August 20, 2012 | ED MORRISSON

Posted on 08/20/2012 7:06:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

Until yesterday, Todd Akin had a comfortable polling lead in Missouri over incumbent Senator Claire McCaskill in what had been the most vulnerable seat for Democrats this cycle. Suddenly, one has to ask whether Akin has a, er, legitimate chance of beating McCaskill, or even a legitimate chance of avoiding a Torricelli maneuver:

Todd Akin on Rape and Abortion, The Jaco Report, 8/19/2012

In the clip, Charles Jaco, of St. Louis Fox affiliate KTVI’s “Jaco Report,” asks Akin whether he thinks abortions ought to permissible in a situation where a woman is raped. While explaining his position, Akin claimed that pregnancy only rarely results from “legitimate rape.”

“Well you know, people always want to make it as one of those things where how do you slice this particularly tough, sort of ethical question,” he replied. “It seems to me first of all, from what I understand from doctors — that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But, let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work, or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”

Good grief. First, pregnancy from rape isn’t all that uncommon, as Twitchy discovered with just a little research; it’s around 5%. At least one researcher has found that conception rates for rape actually exceeds that of single instances of consensual sex. Second, what in Akin’s mind constitutes legitimate rape? Was he trying to distinguish between forcible rape and statutory rape? If so, that’s a pretty fine distinction, and one that’s really nonsensical even in the argument Akin was trying to make. And if he wanted to suggest that some women would lie about being raped in order to secure an abortion, then he’s really setting up an argument that any woman who is pregnant couldn’t really have been raped … which as noted above is simply not the case.

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan distanced themselves from Akin’s argument at light speed:

A spokeswoman for Mitt Romney wrote late Sunday that the presumptive GOP presidential nominee and his running mate, U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, did not share Rep. Todd Akin’s sentiments on rape.

“Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape,” Romney campaign spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg wrote.

Even Akin himself repudiated his earlier remarks:

“As a member of Congress, I believe that working to protect the most vulnerable in our society is one of my most important responsibilities, and that includes protecting both the unborn and victims of sexual assault. In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it’s clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year. Those who perpetrate these crimes are the lowest of the low in our society and their victims will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve.

“I recognize that abortion, and particularly in the case of rape, is a very emotionally charged issue. But I believe deeply in the protection of all life and I do not believe that harming another innocent victim is the right course of action. I also recognize that there are those who, like my opponent, support abortion and I understand I may not have their support in this election.

“But I also believe that this election is about a wide-range of very important issues, starting with the economy and the type of country we will be leaving our children and grandchildren. We’ve had 42 straight months of unacceptably high unemployment, trillion dollar deficits, and Democratic leaders in Washington who are focused on growing government, instead of jobs. That is my primary focus in this campaign and while there are those who want to distract from that, knowing they cannot defend the Democrats’ failed economic record of the last four years, that will continue to be my focus in the months ahead.”

“Those who want to distract from that” got a big boost from Akin himself.

Can Republicans replace Akin, if they so choose? Apparently they can — but the deadline is tomorrow. Of course, deadlines didn’t matter when Robert Torricelli became a political pariah in New Jersey, but there are a couple of differences. First, it involved actual corruption, not a case of foot-in-mouth disease, and second, Torricelli was a Democrat. If Republicans want Akin off the ticket, they’d have to act quickly, which means it won’t happen at all.

That means that Missouri will probably see a lot of debate over “legitimate,” and Republicans had better hope that Akin can legitimately change the subject soon.

Update: Chuck Todd hints that there may be more time than we think if Akin withdraws:

There is a SECOND deadline for Akin to withdraw, 9/25, but it’s complicated. Will explain on @dailyrundown.

— Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) August 20, 2012

Well, the whole thing’s getting pretty complicated now, isn’t it?

Update II: Sarah Steelman, one of two challengers against Akin in the primary and Sarah Palin’s endorsed choice, blasted Akin this morning on Twitter:

Todd Akin’s remarks about “legitimate rape” were inexcusable, insulting and embarrassing to the GOP. #mosen

— Sarah Steelman (@sarah_steelman) August 20, 2012

On the other hand, poll analyst Sean Trende reminds us that politicians who say stupid things often don’t pay as much of a price as we’d think:

Perspective on Akin: After basically dropping an n-bomb, in a horrible R year, George Allen very nearly won his Senate race.

— Sean Trende (@SeanTrende) August 20, 2012

Perspective on Akin: After lying about going to Vietnam, in a terrible Dem year, R Blumenthal handily won his Senate race.

— Sean Trende (@SeanTrende) August 20, 2012

Persp on Akin:After saying “rape is like bad weather: If it’s inevitable, just relax and enjoy it,” Williams ~won 90 TX Gov. race

— Sean Trende (@SeanTrende) August 20, 2012

These things matter.But they aren’t necessarily the game changers pundits make them out to be.

— Sean Trende (@SeanTrende) August 20, 2012

I’m not sure that this is a comforting thought.


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1 posted on 08/20/2012 7:06:34 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Now we know why Akin was McCaskill’s chosen opponent.


2 posted on 08/20/2012 7:09:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Kaslin

OMG~! so he said something STUPID~!

SO LETS KEEP McKASKILL WHO LIVES HER LIFE ON STUPID


3 posted on 08/20/2012 7:09:13 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Kaslin

When a GOP candidate is ahead in the pols against a Democrat incumbent, STAY OFF THE AIR!!! KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, AND RESIST THE URGE TO RISE TO THE ENEMIES’ BAIT.

The Republican Party really does need a training program for these basics because some candidates can’t control themselves.


4 posted on 08/20/2012 7:10:45 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Kaslin
Akin’s comments are being nationalized and will have an impact beyond Missouri. The RNC had better decide, and fast, what they want to do.
5 posted on 08/20/2012 7:11:08 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Kaslin

Dump him fast.


6 posted on 08/20/2012 7:12:47 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Kaslin

:After saying “rape is like bad weather: If it’s inevitable, just relax and enjoy it,” Williams ~won 90 TX Gov. race

WRONG! Claytie Williams was beaten like a drum by Ma Richards after this stupid remark. He was never governor of Texas, but he’s been an extremely successful oil man so he didn’t miss the aggravation.


7 posted on 08/20/2012 7:13:31 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Powder..patch..ball FIRE!

Mckaskill spent millions to make sure she got to run against Todd. Things just blew up too early in the campaign and now Sarah Steelman can still spank Claire.


8 posted on 08/20/2012 7:13:48 AM PDT by BallandPowder
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To: Kaslin
Persp on Akin:After saying “rape is like bad weather: If it’s inevitable, just relax and enjoy it,” Williams ~won 90 TX Gov. race

Umm....Ann Richards won that race.

Though Williams did so much stupid stuff in that race it's hard to identify precisely what lost him the election.

9 posted on 08/20/2012 7:15:32 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Menehune56
Reince Priebus just comformed they had 24 hours to either keep him or replace him.

He shot himself and now he must finish the Job and quit

10 posted on 08/20/2012 7:16:22 AM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Kaslin

It just proves that people are indeed idiots, and let the media think for them. In the case of what he said, substitute “legitimate” for the word “consummated”. Think for a second about the number of claimed “rapes” that are indeed simple sexual assault (male genitalia not directly involved)....
It doesn’t make the crime any less horrific, but it does changes the stats substantially. Lastly, the stress of a fully consummated attack helps reduce the resultant number of pregnancies to around 1/4 of 1%. The “golden bullet” as it were is indeed as rare as it sounds.


11 posted on 08/20/2012 7:16:36 AM PDT by snarkbait (<<For Rent>>)
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To: BallandPowder

Bruner should be the candidate, but Akin is not about to step aside.


12 posted on 08/20/2012 7:16:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If he drops out - and he should- what is the next step in the process?


13 posted on 08/20/2012 7:16:53 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Reagan69

He will NEVER drop out. Trust me.


14 posted on 08/20/2012 7:17:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
He will NEVER drop out. Trust me.

I'd bet money that Ryan calls him today or tonight and begs him to. That's a different story.

15 posted on 08/20/2012 7:20:13 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Kaslin

Akin is further proof that those who can’t do, teach, and those who can’t teach, become politicians.


16 posted on 08/20/2012 7:20:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunate choice of words. I understand what he was trying to say, but sadly that’ll be lost in the false outrage. Even his critics own numbers still bear out his basic point: Rapes are rare and pregnancies due to rape are rarer still. The fact is that abortions performed due to rape are statistially miniscule numbers when compared to the greater story of all abortions. We should be so lucky that the issue of abortion were only about those performed on rape victims. But it’s not.


17 posted on 08/20/2012 7:22:01 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Strategerist
He's a professional politician. He has no core values or beliefs, which is why anything can come out of his mouth at any time.

He will not step aside. It's all about him.

18 posted on 08/20/2012 7:23:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: txrefugee
When a GOP candidate is ahead in the pols against a Democrat incumbent, STAY OFF THE AIR!!! KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, AND RESIST THE URGE TO RISE TO THE ENEMIES’ BAIT. The most costly part of all this is the pivotal nature of the Missouri Senate race. It could make the critical difference as to who controls the Senate next year.

Damn him!!! No "contextual explanation" is going to fix this!

19 posted on 08/20/2012 7:23:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Ramius

He needs to step aside. This is a sure-fire pickup for the GOP, and we need a candidate to just stay away from the cameras and pick up the seat.


20 posted on 08/20/2012 7:23:37 AM PDT by mrs9x
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