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Sept. 26: Could 2012 Be Like 2008?
The New York Times ^ | September 27, 2012 | Nate Silver

Posted on 09/27/2012 2:51:19 PM PDT by BurningOak

There’s no point in putting it gently: Mitt Romney had one of his worst polling days of the year on Wednesday.

It began with a series of polls from The New York Times, CBS News and Quinnipiac University, released early Wednesday morning, which gave President Obama leads of between 9 and 11 points in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Later in the day, Mr. Romney got polls showing unfavorable numbers for him in Colorado and Iowa.

Unlike many recent days, when Mr. Obama’s national polls were slightly less euphoric than his swing state surveys, Wednesday’s national polls seemed to support the notion that Mr. Obama has a clear lead in the race. The Gallup national tracking poll gave Mr. Obama a six-point lead among registered voters, close to his high mark on the year in that survey. The online tracking poll conducted by Ipsos gave him a six-point lead among likely voters. Another online tracking poll, from the RAND Corporation, put Mr. Obama’s lead at roughly seven and a half percentage points, his largest of the year in that poll. And a national poll for Bloomberg produced by the pollster J. Ann Selzer, who has a strong track record, put Mr. Obama six points ahead.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; nyslimes; obama; polls; romney; slimes
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To: BurningOak

Get your ass working for Romney’s election. Make calls, give money, do something. If you’re in a defeated attitude, that is what the economic terrorists want—they want you so frickin’ depressed, you throw up your hands and surrender.

I don’t know who said it, but it is good:

“Anxiety does not empty tomorrow of its sorrows, but only empties today of its strength.”

Be strong. The pollsters are assuming more Democrats than there were in 2008. Nate Silver is a partisan.

Do something positive and you’ll feel better. And you’ll be part of the solution. When victory comes, you’ll be able to say “I did something to make it happen!”


41 posted on 09/27/2012 4:55:47 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: MNJohnnie
more to do with your sour grapes that your candidate did not win the 2012 GOP nomination rather then any honest appraisal of the facts.

I'm not on a crusade against Romney. I've praised him when he's done the right thing, like speaking out against the Egyptian embassy statement.

The fact that I'm not a Romney fan helps me to be objective about his candidacy. I'm not a cheerleader for him. And the fact that the reality now is lining up with what I predicted back then gives me even more credibility.

I don't have "sour grapes." By the same token, my dislike of Obama is not related to "sour grapes" that McCain didn't win. My opinions on the candidates come from an objective analysis on who would be good for the country. I am voting for Romney because he'll be slightly better than Obama. Just slightly.

42 posted on 09/27/2012 4:57:52 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: MNJohnnie

Nice.


43 posted on 09/27/2012 4:58:36 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
“Anxiety does not empty tomorrow of its sorrows, but only empties today of its strength.”

Charles Spurgeon.

44 posted on 09/27/2012 5:00:36 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: JediJones
If Romney is so pathetic why did he wipe the floor up with your uber political genius Newt?

Face it, your "analysis" is all based on nothing stronger then your ego and sour grapes that Newt lost. Get over it. Even your master Newt is working to elect Romney now.

45 posted on 09/27/2012 5:01:08 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: BurningOak

Romney is not unlikable, not at all. Perhaps to the dark, scary, ugly, DUmmie side, but don’t put yourself there. Romney is a good man. Stay in the light.


46 posted on 09/27/2012 5:09:36 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: MNJohnnie
My "master" Newt is also giving his honest opinion on Romney's missteps, just like I am. He criticized Romney's new ad that praised Obama as being "for the poor and the middle class" on CNN yesterday. He said it doesn't help Romney and he has no clue why they would release an ad like that.

Face it, "sour grapes" is a BS accusation that holds no water. You can just as easily say everyone on FR only hates Obama because of "sour grapes" over McCain losing. It's an incredibly dumb thing to say in either case. What I've said about Romney was the same before and after the primary. How could I have had "sour grapes" about him before the primary even took place?

47 posted on 09/27/2012 5:10:09 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: COUNTrecount

When did Glen have this rally? 2010?


48 posted on 09/27/2012 5:13:42 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: COUNTrecount

When did Glen have this rally? 2010?


49 posted on 09/27/2012 5:14:10 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: JediJones

Sorry but I cannot take seriously anyone who states their emotion based opinions as fact without first acknowledging their basis for doing so.

That is intellectually dishonest.


50 posted on 09/27/2012 5:18:01 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Sorry but I cannot take seriously anyone who states their emotion based opinions as fact without first acknowledging their basis for doing so.

I didn't do that. Besides, I think most people learned how to distinguish facts from opinions during basic English class in grammar school. It's not common practicem, even on the internet, to attach a footnote to every statement designating whether it is an opinion or a fact.

51 posted on 09/27/2012 5:24:58 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: EnquiringMind

Tea Party DC August 2010


52 posted on 09/27/2012 5:36:38 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (What Clint Said !!!)
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To: COUNTrecount

Thanks, that’s what I thought. Hopefully not much different than what we’ll see in November...only 2 years ago, after all!!


53 posted on 09/27/2012 5:44:10 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: justiceseeker93

Why are they letting Iowa vote so early? Is that illegal and a way to cheat voting.


54 posted on 09/27/2012 6:36:41 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: justiceseeker93

They are skewing the numbers to discourage republican voters and get them to stay home.


55 posted on 09/27/2012 6:36:58 PM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: freekitty
Why are they letting Iowa vote so early? Is that illegal and a way to cheat voting?

Each state sets its own voting procedures, but by federal law, Nov. 6 (the traditional Election Day) is the last day states can conduct voting.

Early voting (other than absentee voting) is a relatively new wrinkle adopted in many states, but not all, which I believe started in the Clinton years. Yes, it facilitates fraud for those inclined to engage in it, most commonly 'Rats.

56 posted on 09/27/2012 8:02:09 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: BurningOak

Am I wrong? Am I falling for enemy propaganda? “

Yes, it is POLL-aganda. They are using the 2008 profiles even though there have been massive changes in voter registration. Do you remember the Wisconsin election in June? A republican won that election. So Obama is 12 pts ahead? really?

will they show? It *may* become a self-fulfilling prophecy if it shakes GOP resolve and the campaign. Will these polls make you give up?

SO DONT LET IT.
Ignore it. Ras has been accurate in 2010 and 2008. Ras has it even.

The fact is the economy still sucks and the reasons for voting for Obama are pathetic. I that sinks in with people the election will shift.


57 posted on 09/27/2012 11:21:22 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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