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Mort Zuckerman: Why the Country Is Unhappy Under Obama
U.S.News & World Report ^ | October 5, 2012 | MORTIMER B. ZUCKERMAN

Posted on 10/07/2012 10:35:57 PM PDT by neverdem

In the debate Mitt Romney suddenly assumed the stature of a president while American hasn't found its way under Obama's failing leadership

When you accumulate some of the adjectives from the pundits, the media, and other appraisals that were not from the right but from baffled sympathizers and centrists, there is no doubt that President Barack Obama clearly lost the debate this week, as a matter of both substance and tone. Take your pick from the river of insults: listless, meandering, lazy, dull-brained, long-winded, languid, and flaccid were just some of the epithets from the pundits. Even the New York Times opined that "He lost his competitive edge." The worst that Mitt Romney's relatively few critics could come up with was that his tax cut was unaffordable.

All Obama could do was repeat the charge, and Romney was able to make the pledge that he would not reduce revenues through his tax cut because they would be offset by the elimination of special write-offs and loopholes. What was remarkable was that Romney, who has been in everyone's dog house for months with an erratic campaign, has suddenly assumed the stature of a president. He was warm, articulate, logical, informed, forceful, and most important, presidential. He was more engaged, more detailed, more decisive, more animated, more aggressive in attack, and more robust in defense than the president, who was lackadaisical and without mastery of the facts or the ability to respond to what was put forth by his challenger.

But what is at issue isn't debating style, questions of posture and demeanor, "gotcha moments," or "You're no Jack Kennedy" zingers. The fundamental issue for America is that we seem to have lost our way and we haven't found it after four years of the Obama administration, thanks to a leadership...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012issues; leaderless; leaderlessamerica; obama; zuckerman
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1 posted on 10/07/2012 10:36:06 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Did not Mort support and vote FOR Obama 4 years ago? I apologize in advance IF I am having a memory lapse.
2 posted on 10/07/2012 10:41:21 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: neverdem
...Romney, who has been in everyone's dog house for months with an erratic campaign...

Only through the Romney-can't-possibly-beat-our-boy-king propaganda filter of the "news" media.

3 posted on 10/07/2012 10:47:14 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Just mythoughts

Mort supported Obama bigtime in 2008, but he’s been writing more than a few very negative OpEds since then.


4 posted on 10/07/2012 10:48:23 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Just mythoughts

Yes, we saw through Obama, but Mort, the sophisticated billionaire, was fooled.


5 posted on 10/07/2012 10:55:55 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: neverdem

Which makes one wonder.


6 posted on 10/07/2012 11:01:59 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: neverdem
OBAMA CLEARLY LOST THE DEBATE

Boy, I sure can't hear that enough.

7 posted on 10/07/2012 11:03:15 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: neverdem

Most people who supported Obama were making a mistake but you, Mort - you were one of the people who made a blunder, because you should have known better.


8 posted on 10/07/2012 11:10:10 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: neverdem
Mort supported Obama bigtime in 2008, but he’s been writing more than a few very negative OpEds since then.

Thanks for the verification. I guess I need a refresher course in/on forgiveness, because I just do not have it in me as I read this to 'feel' much more than you are too late Mort in recriminations over a blight you help create.

9 posted on 10/07/2012 11:20:27 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Exactly. Zuckerman is a reasonably smart, wealthy guy who should have known better. I guess even smart people can let their emotions get away from them.

He’s been writing a number of mea culpas for more than a year now. This latest article is well-constructed and all of his arguments are sound.

The Romney campaign should probably cut and paste a lot of these arguments made by Zuckerman, many of which have been stated here on Free Republic since the beginning of Obama’s reign, and use them in commercials and future debate prep.
Zuckerman’s breakdown of employment statistics and economic data is particularly strong.


10 posted on 10/07/2012 11:31:56 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Montanabound

You’d think these rich guys would be smart but supporting a commie imbecile Kenyan is not a lapse of judgment but sheer stupidity. Let him write more of his articles to cover up for his hopeychangey embarrassment..


11 posted on 10/07/2012 11:36:18 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Montanabound

I have thought this over and over - why did I - an “ordinary” person in Portland, Oregon - figure out that zero is a sack of $hit before the election and we were in BIG trouble if he won and meanwhile all these supposed geniuses couldn’t figure out what was right in front of them?

Seems that for a lot of people success if a fluke.


12 posted on 10/07/2012 11:41:13 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Aria

when was the last time a democrat governed well??
clinton?? please, if he was sooo great why did he lose 52 seats in the house, 9 in the senate and 10 governorships??
Just look at detroit, california, nyc in 91, wisc before walker
the list is just endless and half he country votes for these #%&*@
I hope i never understand.


13 posted on 10/07/2012 11:49:58 PM PDT by genghis
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To: neverdem

I heard a lot about the poised, well-spoken, likeable candidate back in 2008. I didn’t see that candidate, but the media told me all about him. The candidate I saw and who was elected was rather snobby, not all that bright, and spoke robotically.

In 2008, however, there wasn’t a real Republican challenger.

Now there is, and the true nature of the Democrat candidate is painfully obvious in comparison.


14 posted on 10/07/2012 11:51:26 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“Did not Mort support and vote FOR Obama 4 years ago?”

Of Course he did. Mort is a Democrat. He even describes his economic beliefs as Keynesian. But during the 2008 campaign The Transformer was preaching that he was going to “fundamentally transform America”. That scared the hell out of me at the time, because it’s as good a definition of radicalism that I can think of.


15 posted on 10/07/2012 11:55:24 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: neverdem

It seems him and his whole administration have wasted these past four years fixing that which was not broke, digging holes where we did not need holes.


16 posted on 10/07/2012 11:59:50 PM PDT by Letmarch75 ( If a man knows the right way to live and does not live it, there is no greater coward).)
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To: neverdem

It seems him and his whole administration have wasted these past four years fixing that which was not broke, digging holes where we did not need holes.


17 posted on 10/07/2012 11:59:50 PM PDT by Letmarch75 ( If a man knows the right way to live and does not live it, there is no greater coward).)
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To: neverdem

It seems him and his whole administration have wasted these past four years fixing that which was not broke, digging holes where we did not need holes.


18 posted on 10/08/2012 12:00:07 AM PDT by Letmarch75 ( If a man knows the right way to live and does not live it, there is no greater coward).)
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To: jeffc
...Romney, who has been in everyone's dog house for months with an erratic campaign...

< Only through the Romney-can't-possibly-beat-our-boy-king propaganda filter of the "news" media.

During the GOP convention, Mark Halperin of TIME and John Heilemann of New York magazine predicted confidently -- promised would be a better word -- that Clint Eastwood's endorsement speech, which they had just watched, would not reach the public, that Romney's message and the GOP's reframing of his issues and attempts to cast his qualities in perspective would not reach the public without being sliced, diced, jumbled, and spun, so that the message could not get out.

They promised (no doubt peeved at Clint's performance, which Halperin derogated twice within 30 minutes on two different PBS shows) that the Romney message would not get out.

I believed them.

19 posted on 10/08/2012 12:04:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
Note to Mort: Because, to borrow a quote the Obama-phone lady, "He sucks!"
20 posted on 10/08/2012 12:04:20 AM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: Work for a successful 2012! +Throw the liberal garbage out!)
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To: haroldeveryman
Of Course he did. Mort is a Democrat. He even describes his economic beliefs as Keynesian. But during the 2008 campaign The Transformer was preaching that he was going to “fundamentally transform America”. That scared the hell out of me at the time, because it’s as good a definition of radicalism that I can think of.

Mort is a liberal. Liberals never ever accept responsibility for their own actions. I do not believe that Mort now sees the light. He knew everything he wrote in this piece back in 2008, and he is hunting for some way to make himself appear respectable.

21 posted on 10/08/2012 12:07:58 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: genghis

I agree.

Why don’t people figure it out - the rats want the poor to fail - otherwise they’d lose their constituency and their power. Take from the doers and give to the those who don’t mind being moochers. (Of course that doesn’t include those who are genuinely in need of help from others.)

They’re really out of control now with seizing our health care - taxes are one thing but the power of life and death in their hands is cause for all out war.
And then there is the EPA, the NEA, the NLRB, etc. They’ve gone too far.


22 posted on 10/08/2012 12:08:11 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Things are a bit different since Facebook faced the taxman...


23 posted on 10/08/2012 12:11:37 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Hardraade
Things are a bit different since Facebook faced the taxman...

That is the problem of liberals they ignore the unintended consequences of their actions. They can go to Venezuela and cry me a river.

24 posted on 10/08/2012 12:16:06 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Montanabound

Mort wasn’t fooled

he just hates what he views as Christian Conservative values more than socialism

till it got into his pocketbook and Israel too deep

it ain’t complicated


25 posted on 10/08/2012 12:18:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: max americana
'Let him write more of his articles to cover up for his hopeychangey embarrassment..'
Bwhahhhha it appears moity's musings could have been a half a chapter in ANNIE COULTER'S new book...he's that prescient.... YA see mort, ya gotta be right the first time everytime elstwise things like THIS can happen.... You should probably be more careful!

26 posted on 10/08/2012 12:18:42 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: neverdem
"You're no Jack Kennedy" zingers

Such a memorable zinger. How many are old enough to remember the launcher of the zinger . . . wait, it's coming back to me. Lloyd Benson? An old fool with a canned zinger, like the grandfather who tells you the same joke every time you visit him. At some point in the debate, Benson blurts out a mention of Jack Kennedy, unconnected to anything else, as in:

"You know, I've heard people say you're a kind of like the young Jack Kennedy . . . " etc., etc. Curiously, the Lamestreamers at the time quoted it immediately as a piece of devastating repartee. With my eyes opened by the Journo-List revelations and related conspiracies to bore us, I'd say it's almost as if the state-run media had been leaked the quote in advance and were waiting to use it in their sneering stories of the debate—which Quayle clearly won. And Dukakis-Benson took, as I recall, 5 states out of 50.

27 posted on 10/08/2012 12:28:56 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Mort is Jewish and 80% vote for Democrats, which I;ll NEVER understand!!! A BIG Government almost wiped them out and yet they vote for BIG GOVERNMENT! Go figure.....dumb.


28 posted on 10/08/2012 12:32:54 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: wardaddy

BINGO!!!!


29 posted on 10/08/2012 12:36:11 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Who watches or listens to PBS? They preach to a Choir.
30 posted on 10/08/2012 1:02:21 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Aria

They’ve gone too far.

“They” should not exist in the first place.

It is just more evidence of the “Congress”
shirking their job, by giving power to bureaucratic
agencies without our permission or the Constitution.


31 posted on 10/08/2012 1:21:57 AM PDT by wita
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To: Just mythoughts
Did not Mort support and vote FOR Obama 4 years ago?

Indeed, he did. But it took Mort about one year to realize the mistake he'd made.

By early 2010, he was making the case against Obama.

Mort is an honest liberal...and a businessman...no lib dummy.

32 posted on 10/08/2012 1:26:48 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: genghis
when was the last time a democrat governed well??

I think you might have to go back to Harry Truman -- who had his problems, but did an admirable job on balance (dropping the bomb, ending the war, post-war recovery, Marshall Plan, Truman Doctrine, etc.)

I've contended that the last Democrat nominee for the Presidency who might qualify as both honest and capable is probably Hubert Humphrey (1968).

33 posted on 10/08/2012 1:32:32 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: genghis
when was the last time a democrat governed well??

I think you might have to go back to Harry Truman -- who had his problems, but did an admirable job on balance (dropping the bomb, ending the war, post-war recovery, Marshall Plan, Truman Doctrine, etc.)

I've contended that the last Democrat nominee for the Presidency who might qualify as both honest and capable is probably Hubert Humphrey (1968).

34 posted on 10/08/2012 1:32:40 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: neverdem
The worst that Mitt Romney's relatively few critics could come up with was that his tax cut was unaffordable.

This, of course, is where Zuckerman tips his hand that he is a big government liberal who believes that government must "pay for" tax cuts because, of course, all money (and presumably property) belongs to government in the first place. Normal humans, on the other hand, view tax cuts simply as less confiscation of their money by government.

This notion that government must "pay for" confiscating less money from citizens is... bizarre. But then, liberal thought processes are bizarre.
Therefore it makes sense to them. I guess.

35 posted on 10/08/2012 1:41:50 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (My head explodes sometimes.)
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To: neverdem

Yes, he inherited a financial crisis that he had no part in causing....Ummmm, Mort. Wake up. He was a SENATOR. He caused or helped cause it as much as any freaking politician.


36 posted on 10/08/2012 1:47:37 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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37 posted on 10/08/2012 1:48:28 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Ann Archy
Mort is Jewish and 80% vote for Democrats, which I;ll NEVER understand!!! A BIG Government almost wiped them out and yet they vote for BIG GOVERNMENT! Go figure.....dumb.

Many here (including myself) have posted as to the hows and whys of that from a historical perspective. IMHO however I think their is something bigger going on. Mort as a Jew and an intellectual successful businessman probably has the ear of many in the Jewish community. In a sense I think if they agree with him it gives them some solice or cover to potentially pull the lever for Mitt. Just my 2 cents...

38 posted on 10/08/2012 1:48:53 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: exDemMom

Glad we got through our McCain / Palin phase.


39 posted on 10/08/2012 2:11:47 AM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: Aria
a variety of reasons -- remember that not everyone can be smart in everything. I wonder if Einstein knew how to skin a fish. Even if he didn't, that still doesn't affect his status as a genius

Business geniuses are good at business or technology or something

The same thing with actors -- they may be great actors but they're not political commentators

O had a lot of people fooled with his empty substance, but remember that he was portrayed as black (whereas he is half-white, half Luo Moslem)

40 posted on 10/08/2012 2:13:02 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Hardraade

I think you’re mixing up Zuckerman with Zuckerberg (’berg controls FB which ‘man is the owner of the New York Daily News and US News and World Report


41 posted on 10/08/2012 2:16:44 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: taildragger

From your lips...


42 posted on 10/08/2012 2:28:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: neverdem
I'd be REALLY, REALLY unhappy if I had bought your stock Mort...

You are not Bill Gates. You are not Steve Joy. Go away!!

43 posted on 10/08/2012 2:35:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: neverdem

After crying over not getting their backing of Hillary elected, these past four years were unsuccessful in forcing The Undocumented Coffee Server to conform to her agenda.

So:
They’ve had their champion installed in the hyjacked GOP, HillaryRomney, intending to support Mr. HillaryRomney Extortion-Care, all along.

Alot of people have totally jumped the shark here, supporting Mr. Massachusetts Hillary.


44 posted on 10/08/2012 2:52:24 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Just mythoughts
Did not Mort support and vote FOR Obama 4 years ago?

Yes, he did, along with 69 million others.

Some of them are going to have to change their minds - several millions of them, in fact.

Let's not make it hard.

45 posted on 10/08/2012 3:12:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.a)
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To: neverdem

Truth, loyalty, and honesty backed up by an unfailing command of the facts coupled with the ability to impart them will beat “mastery of lies and deception” any time.

That is why Obama looks like a petulant two-year old when confronted thusly.


46 posted on 10/08/2012 3:14:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: max americana
One of Mort Zuckerman's claims to fame is that he was one of Bernie Madoff's victims. I think a lot of people tend to mistakenly assume that wealthy people are, by definition, smart people.

He'll never admit it in public, but I'm sure Zuckerman knows damn well that the turd swirling around in his toilet this morning is more presidential than the guy he supported in 2008.

47 posted on 10/08/2012 3:33:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Just mythoughts

Probably. But it looks like he’s preparing to endorse Romny this time around.


48 posted on 10/08/2012 4:49:13 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: okie01; flaglady47; mickie
"Mort is an honest liberal......"

There's no such thing as an honest liberal.

He's lying now. He's still a liberal. He's just trying to cover for his stupidity 4 years ago.

Why should I believe anything this media metrosexual says today when he was so wrong last time? Fool the public once......

Now it appears that he may be throwing Obama under the bus and will embrace Romney. This makes him a conservative? This makes him as "honest" as George Washington? This makes him warm and cuddly?

No, he's still a Beltway media opportunist and a conniver, abeit making his move a day late and a dollar short. A lot of these rich guys are beginning to worry big time about their personal fortunes and their business's bottom lines. Founding principles have nothing to do with their Road to Damascus transformations.

Go away, flip-flopper Mort......once a Schmuckerman, always a Schmuckerman.

Leni

49 posted on 10/08/2012 5:15:04 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Just mythoughts

He’s been anti Obama for some time no. Too bad he had stars in his eyes back in 2008.


50 posted on 10/08/2012 5:19:29 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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