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Who Won the VP Debate 2012: Paul Ryan Wins the Polls Against Laughing Joe Biden
polymic ^ | 10/12/12 | Jsse Merkel

Posted on 10/12/2012 9:03:51 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks

If you're a liberal or a Democrat, you probably loved Joe Biden's performance last night; if you're an independent or a Republican, not so much.

According to RealClearPolitics.com, the Obama campaign was deeply wounded after last weeks presidential debate. Mitt Romney not only came off as more likable the he ever had previously, but he also came off as more knowledgeable and confident than President Obama. Over the past eight days, the polls have shifted over to Governor Romney's favor.

Biden was sent out to reverse this increasing trend, rally the base and show the American people that the administration still had fire in its belly. There is, however, one word that Vice President Biden forgot, and that word is overkill.

Biden's been here before. All throughout the 2008 Democratic primary season, and during his 2008 VP debate with Governor Sarah Palin, he was calm, collected, even presidential. He was a likable and charming guy. This time, we saw a different Joe Biden.

Biden smirked, grinned, and waved his hands wildly. Some people would call it impassioned. Others might suggest that he was doing an impression of a southern preacher trying to perform an exorcism. He shook his finger repeatedly in the air, and interrupted Congressman Paul Ryan 82 different times. Paul Ryan maintained his cool, and was polite to a fault.

As the old adage goes, it's all about how things look. Biden tried to exude strength, but ended up coming across as unhinged, cocky, arrogant and rude. Paul Ryan tried to come across as confident and composed, but may have come across as slightly timid. So who ended up getting the best results for their team in the end? Well, as of right now, it might very well have been vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan.

According to the CNN poll of independents, Paul Ryan won the debate, 48% to 44%. The same poll showed that people who watched the debate believed that Paul Ryan expressed himself better than Joe Biden, 50%-41%. An NBC poll of 435 uncommitted voters after the debate showed Paul Ryan winning with 63% to 31%. CNBC had it 56% to 36%, again with Paul Ryan coming out on top. Even the Danville Advocate Messenger had Paul Ryan on top at the end of the day, attracting 56% to Biden's 41%.

So how could Joe Biden's strategy have backfired so horribly? It's quite simple. He did not come off as 'presidential.' He wasn't Joe Biden. He was Malarkey McSmirk.

One of the reasons that Romney was able to move so many undecided and independent voters over to his side last week was because of how he came off during the debate. On Thursday, Paul Ryan may have accomplished the same thing, although he may have Joe Biden to thank for it. President Obama's smirking and looking down did him in. Biden's frantic arm waving and persistent chuckling may have done the same thing. Independent voters do not like someone that looks like they do not want to be there, and they definitely do not like someone who comes across as an arrogant, interrupting madman.

A large number of pundits from across the spectrum would seem to agree. Peggy Noonan, Charles Krauthammer, Piers Morgan, and many others.

Like Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep
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To: Clint N. Suhks

The kenyan may see that he has to start a war to get him out of the next debate.


21 posted on 10/12/2012 10:40:29 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: tumblindice

In my opinion, Biden displayed the reason WHY Bi-partisanship is all but dead in Washington. Instead of a “real” debate we had a one-sided clown show with Biden in the role of THE CLOWN. Almost all of our National discussions are of this type, where the side without any thing to stand upon resorts to ridicule, distraction, and attempts to change the subject. Who wants to strike a bargain with a troop of Laughing Clowns?? Biden, Pelosi, Reid, etc....

We made a BAD, BAD, BAD mistake in 2006 and 2008....


22 posted on 10/12/2012 10:43:24 AM PDT by coldoc
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To: lonevoice

Love the picture! Ryan was calm, cool, collected and Biden ranted and raved like a madman. It will be interesting to see how, or even if, this debate has any lingering influence on the polls in a few days.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 10:43:39 AM PDT by Pride in the USA (With Romney - Ryan you get change back.)
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To: DuncanWaring
You might even say "'Plugs' Unplugged".

LOL!

This cracks me up. Unless someone else posted it before me, and I just hadn't noticed it yet, I'm taking credit for having coined it last Thursday.

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If you think this debate was comedy gold just picture next week seeing Biden unplugged, unscripted for 90 minutes.

Plugs Unplugged :-)

33 posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:28:08 PM by lonevoice

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2939990/posts?page=33#33

Not that it matters, but I was kinda proud of it. :-)

24 posted on 10/12/2012 10:53:45 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: lonevoice

Looks like you got it. ;-)


25 posted on 10/12/2012 11:13:47 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Smokin’ Joe has to be the best discription...he had to be smokin’ something!


26 posted on 10/12/2012 11:44:42 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: DuncanWaring

Smokin’ Joe has to be the best discription...he had to be smokin’ something!


27 posted on 10/12/2012 11:44:47 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: DuncanWaring

Smokin’ Joe has to be the best discription...he had to be smokin’ something!


28 posted on 10/12/2012 11:44:57 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Clint N. Suhks


29 posted on 10/12/2012 12:26:07 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I did not think Ryan was timid. He was against a clown, refused to be baited, and probably thought “Let him hang himself.”


30 posted on 10/12/2012 12:37:09 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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