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**LIVE THREAD II** Second Presidential Debate - Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama (9:00 pm Eastern)
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ ^

Posted on 10/16/2012 6:08:59 PM PDT by I Am Not A Mod

Originally Posted on 10/16/2012 2:13:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

This is a thread to split the load.

You can watch the debate online here: http://www.youtube.com/politics?feature=inp-hp-ype-26

Town Hall debate.

Admin Moderator notes: (We changed the main link to C-SPAN from You Tube as it is more reliable.)

The debate can also be watched at these links:

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To: eyedigress

If that holds.

It will be a landslide !!!

The MSM will be looking for their next paycheck.


221 posted on 10/16/2012 8:48:30 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: murron; I Am Not A Mod
If this is Debate Thread II, where is Debate Thread I?

Over on DU. (/s)

222 posted on 10/16/2012 8:50:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: taildragger
"The subtle wins tonight?

OH and PA...

By accident with the questions Romney gave them the answers they needed on Coal, Oil / Gas Fracking and the 2nd Admendment.

Move the needle big nationally? probably not, Seal Ohio and PA definitely..."


That shows you how disconnected "undecideds" (yeah, right!) and the Leftists who pick their questions are from those of us outside the NY Metro Area.
223 posted on 10/16/2012 8:50:22 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: eyedigress

I’m far from nuts, The Fraud was able to make his little rehearsed speeches all night long. Every time Romney tried to respond to one of the Fraud’s lies, Crowley cut him off.

Maybe you weren’t watching the same debate. Anyone who thinks Crowley wasn’t doing everything she could to protect the Fraud is delusional.

Hopefully at this point enough people are out of work, fed up with the Fraud’s lack of achievement and depressed about America to vote Romney in. Of course there are millions of fraudulent votes hustled on to the voter rolls in swing states by groups like Acorn, millions of fraudulent votes to be cast for The Fraud.

The worst President in the last 10 years and it’s still close. It’s a joke, and tonight didn’t help Romney as far as I can see. He had a few moments I agree and when he laid out how The Fraud’s plans in 2008 were either abysmal failures or unattended to, I hope that resonated with enough people.

Anyone else notice at the end, how many of the people who asked the questions were hovering around the Obama’s ?

Okay maybe disaster was too strong a word, but it was not a great night for the Romney campaign.


224 posted on 10/16/2012 8:52:38 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: Vendome
[LISTER present] [LISTER is sat by himself at the table in the centre of the cell. Two small bags of flour are in front of him together with some writing paper, and he chews thoughtfully on a pen]

[Enter RIMMER]


RIMMER Appeal applications, Listy. Character testimonials. What's this?
LISTER Kris found out about the shower thing; she went ballistic. It's just a little present to say 'sorry'.
RIMMER A bag of flour?
LISTER No, two bags. I'm in the Tank, in the middle of Deep Space. I can't just get on the blower to Interflora, you know! Flour - Flours! It's the closest I could get.
RIMMER You romantic fool.
LISTER You know how hard it is getting this stuff? I had to nick this from the bakery. She'll appreciate that.
RIMMER I can just see her reading the card: "Dear Kris, I'm really sorry for ogling you and the girls in the shower yesterday for three gob-smacking hours of steamy fun. To make up for it, and to indicate how truly sorry I am, here's two bags of self-raising. Something I didn't need any help with yesterday."
LISTER It's easy for you, you're not crazy about her. It's re- it's really dibilitating, being nuts about someone. You lose twenty I.Q. points every time you talk to them.
RIMMER You must be nuts about a fair few people, then, are you?

225 posted on 10/16/2012 8:52:49 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1365 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Zeneta; Jim Robinson

It’s holding here in North Carolina. Obama has finally been pegged for what he represents. Jim, while I do not represent all of Romney’s beliefs, Obama must go. We had a chance during the primary to make a difference but it just didn’t work out well. I do not expect an endorsement from you and nor do I think you should make one. Obama has to go.


226 posted on 10/16/2012 8:56:11 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: UCANSEE2

I don`t think the extra 2 minutes matter. What mattered was Crowley`s Libya bailout, Crowley not affording Romney the same rebuttal opportunities she gave Obama, Crowley not pressing Obama the way she pressed Romney (Obama didn`t answer at least 2 questions and outright lied about energy), and Crowley`s selection of questions (which were almost all Dem talking points).


227 posted on 10/16/2012 8:57:31 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Beatthedrum

Romney won the debate.


228 posted on 10/16/2012 8:57:50 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Ray76; mass55th
“It’s - not - the - government’s - money!” should have been the retort followed with a WTH are you talking about look. Coulda put this commie away... a “there you go again” moment

Did you notice when Romney had been cut off, and he still mentioned "Government doesn't create jobs" ????

Pretty good lick there.

229 posted on 10/16/2012 8:58:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: UCANSEE2
"I still don't think it helped him at all, do you? "

No, because he didn't offer anything new or specific, and only repeated the same crap he's been spewing the past four years. I think people are tired of his rhetoric.

230 posted on 10/16/2012 8:59:07 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Ray76; mass55th
“It’s - not - the - government’s - money!” should have been the retort followed with a WTH are you talking about look. Coulda put this commie away... a “there you go again” moment

Did you notice when Romney had been cut off, and he still mentioned "Government doesn't create jobs" ????

Pretty good lick there.

231 posted on 10/16/2012 8:59:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: I Am Not A Mod; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
You all remember the young lady sitting in the front row with her boyfriend who asked the question about immigration? She said her name was Jennifer. Our tireless staff researchers, who incidentally have just submitted appeals in their immigration cases themselves, have succeeded in locating a file photograph of the couple!
232 posted on 10/16/2012 8:59:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: murron
"If this is Debate Thread II, where is Debate Thread I?"

Probably lost in cyberspace with most of the replies people tried to make on it.

233 posted on 10/16/2012 9:01:04 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Beatthedrum

Hardly a disaster. Luntz’ focus group spoke for many out there. Plus - and this is HUGH and SERIES: Obama told three tremendous Whoppers tonight that are political commercial fodder in the swing states. 1) Gas prices/poor economy, 2) Drilling permits, and 3) Libya. The last one is mega-Pinocchio. Romney almost couldn’t believe Obama’s answer and did a triple-take. Obama knew he stepped in it and just said “Governor, please continue”. That was a freaking claymore. I disagree with Krauthammer - Romney didn’t need to, in that forum, call Obama on it. Anyone watching knew Obama just got caught in the bear trap.


234 posted on 10/16/2012 9:02:19 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Drink Tea - not Kool-Aid.)
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To: UCANSEE2
"Pretty good lick there."

Romney pressed him good on the drilling licenses, and Obama wouldn't respond. He also pressed Obama about looking at his pension, and seeing Obama's investments in China industries, etc. Obama didn't respond to that either.

235 posted on 10/16/2012 9:04:23 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Beatthedrum

While I agree with much of what you have said.

I must point out that this debate setting does not allow for the type of replies we would like to see.

I’m in sales, and if a prospect makes a statement that is patiently false you need to be diplomatic on how you deal with it. There simply isn’t enough time to not only restate what was said, but to reply in a way that doesn’t make you seem obnoxious.

Rommey is respectful, and he is not talking to Obama in this setting, he is talking to Americans.


236 posted on 10/16/2012 9:04:56 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: Beatthedrum; eyedigress; wolficatZ; Zeneta; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; I Am Not A Mod; ...
RE :”A f* cking disaster for Romney.”

There were a number of times in this debate that I thought Romney was dodging or weak.

But I saw Obama trying to be aggressive with his voice pitch going up and Romney keeping his cool, looking confident and presidential and getting some great hits in on Obama.
Romney is definitely better at this debating than Ryan is.

Obama pleased his MSNBC base but the Luntz focus group showing many 2008 Obama voters now saying they will vote for Romney makes me think that wishful thinking has swapped sides.

MSNBC declaring O victory. case closed

237 posted on 10/16/2012 9:05:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: eyedigress

You think Romney won and I thought The Fraud won the debate. All I care about is that this poser, this unqualified teleprompter-reading, narcissistic, socialist hack is beaten Nov 6 and he and his disgusting wife are sent packing and disappear off the radar as soon as possible.

Romney has another chance to go after the Fraud and hopefully the next time, he will not have some cow from CNN running interference for Obama, he will have a chance to point out what a total disaster the Fraud has been.

I live in TN and I’m not seeing any ads, they have already given the state to Romney. I hope someone is running some ads in the swings states that are really going after the Fraud.


238 posted on 10/16/2012 9:07:38 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: Vendome

My daughter got married this past June... yet another Frenchie...
(last daughter did too). So they took the traditional photos there.


239 posted on 10/16/2012 9:07:41 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Beatthedrum

Romney won big. Is that you Candy the whale Crowly?


240 posted on 10/16/2012 9:10:10 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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