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**LIVE THREAD II** Second Presidential Debate - Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama (9:00 pm Eastern)
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ ^

Posted on 10/16/2012 6:08:59 PM PDT by I Am Not A Mod

Originally Posted on 10/16/2012 2:13:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

This is a thread to split the load.

You can watch the debate online here: http://www.youtube.com/politics?feature=inp-hp-ype-26

Town Hall debate.

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KEYWORDS: 2012debates; debate; elections; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: rurgan

Really? Honestly?
First Debate: Romney 100% Obama 0
This one, Romney won.. but Obama got too many unanswered zingers in there (because Obama flails all over, NEVER stays on topic, and so Romney can’t respond to all his absurd accusations). So, no, Romney didn’t ‘destroy’ him.
Next one: Romney better let all his natural decency to the side and attack Obama. Fight Dirty.
Think!


261 posted on 10/16/2012 9:31:59 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Beatthedrum

The hit was 75-25 Romney. Obama got crushed. These were Obama Voters last time.


262 posted on 10/16/2012 9:33:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: mass55th

Candy the biased liberal knowingly lied to 70 million Americans. now says oops did I do that. Obvious liberal propagandist as are all reporters


263 posted on 10/16/2012 9:33:12 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Salamander

“Well ya know, my grandmother was impoverished...blah blah blah.”

Yeah... I heard him say that she was VP of a BANK, and (to prove the impoverished implication) that he was sure she was paid much less than a man would be.

Another lie, on top of a lie.


264 posted on 10/16/2012 9:35:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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I saw the Tigers game instead. It was probably a good thing for my blood pressure. I have to ask. Did Candy Crowley suck as bad as I’ve been hearing? It sounded like it was so bad that if Obama was straight, I’d have to question what’s going on. That’s how bad of job of moderating it sounds like she did. I didn’t see it, but it wouldn’t shock me in the least.


265 posted on 10/16/2012 9:37:36 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; riri; eyedigress; wolficatZ; Zeneta; I Am Not A Mod; ...
RE:”Warning, lengthy excerpt follows. In the Obam Rose Garden remarks, Obama did say “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation” but it hardly clear that this referred to Benghazi:”

Playing backseat driver I was thinking :

Look Mr POTUS, the reason why you made up the story about the youtube riot is because you had already claimed that Bin Laden’s death made these diplomats safer and now they are dead due to your incompetence. “

Still got one more debate for Romney to GO in for the kill.

266 posted on 10/16/2012 9:39:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Salamander

My favorite...”I was raised by a single mother”

ummmmm.....no. Not true.


267 posted on 10/16/2012 9:39:53 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: eyedigress

But don’t you know all the trolls here say Romney didn’t do so good, they sound like CNN and MSNBC lol.


268 posted on 10/16/2012 9:40:26 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan

I thought she did well. Obama, when answering, would just throw random accusations out, so if it was not Romney’s turn then these claims were unrebutted. What was she supposed to do?
Next turn went to Romney and he could waste the time, there was already a new topic to address.


269 posted on 10/16/2012 9:43:31 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Sarah

Yeah Romney destroyed the Muslim Communist Obama. too bad you don’t like that.


270 posted on 10/16/2012 9:44:04 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: sickoflibs

Does anyone have a screenshot or link to Obama’s sneer when Romney brought up Fast and Furious gun program? I thought it was the angriest look I have seen on a candidate’s face during a debate.

I agree with the consensus that the moderator was a horror show. She frequently let Obama get the last word in. It was Romney or Obama getting the question, one responds, and Obama gets the last word, happened on almost every question.

Many of the questions were layups for Obama. On the Benghazi question, I don’t see how the mainstream media can label this as a major missed opportunity by Romney, sure he could have attacked it stronger but he got in some major points on it and his time once again was cut short, you had Obama looking weak, begging Candy to stop the discussion and you can basically now cut an ad showing Obama lying about what he said on September 12.

I also thought that in many of the mano a mano exchanges Romney came across stronger than Obama.


271 posted on 10/16/2012 9:46:21 PM PDT by MikeFrancesa.com (www.War69.com)
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To: sickoflibs; I Am Not A Mod; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
Remember that claim that last weeks Frank Luntz/FNC/Hannity undecided focus group was a Democrat setup because they gave some points to Biden, and about 3/4 of them voted for Obama in 2008? Remember I strongly disagreed?

I was not sure whether it was an accident, or Luntz had some purpose in stacking the jury, or what.

Well just minutes ago the same focus group about 3/4 of them said they are now voting for Romney after this debate. That is a flip of 1/2. That is much more informative than a sample of Rush 24/7 members as some seem to want to poll.

Interesting. I wonder if Luntz knew what was going to happen. We don't know if Luntz gave them some "things to think about" before viewing the debate.

272 posted on 10/16/2012 9:47:00 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: UCANSEE2

When he mentions his commie grandmommy, my hackles raise.

She and her Marxist fiend husband created this beast, along with “Uncle Frank’s” help and I’m supposed to care about how “she struggled”?

I’d be thrilled to be making a “female banker manager rate salary” right now.

I don’t even feel pity that she conveniently/suddenly “dropped dead” right after he visited her before the election.

[those darn loose ends, you know]

I simply do not understand how half of America -willfully- blinds itself to reality.

I may not like reality over much sometimes but I sure hell won’t deny it exists.

Half this country is sitting around waiting on some stupid Utopia that will simply *never* happen.


273 posted on 10/16/2012 9:48:08 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Scotswife

Well, he was kinda sorta raised by her *singularly* very briefly before being thrown to his grandparents while she went off to persue her career of serial boinking.


274 posted on 10/16/2012 9:50:59 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Sarah

It’s got to be difficult because Mitt wants to respond to the BS but then that eats his time with the current question. And the BS does not stop.


275 posted on 10/16/2012 9:51:00 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Salamander

I simply do not understand how half of America -willfully- blinds itself to reality

The media creates a false reality so that’s why so many voted for this Obama and why the government has grown every year for the past 100 years.


276 posted on 10/16/2012 9:52:21 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Sarah

Your heroine has admitted she lied for the Kenyan....


277 posted on 10/16/2012 9:56:43 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3
I still stand by my earlier point, polling committed Mccain voting Republicans says little about a general POTUS election this year.
I think Luntz is the best we will find for accuracy.

And I think Ryan let a few obvious missiles through and I think those Luntz focus group member comments I reposted were accurate.

Examples : Ryan on his letter begging for stimulus funding for his district AND his promising us congress will make sure cutting tax rates will not add deficits.

278 posted on 10/16/2012 9:57:03 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: rurgan

I watch the exact same media.

IMO, the only reason the freak is in the WH was to assuage/alleviate liberal guilt.

I don’t have any of that mythical “guilt” so maybe that’s why I’m immune to their false narratives.


279 posted on 10/16/2012 9:58:27 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: sickoflibs; riri; eyedigress; wolficatZ; Zeneta; I Am Not A Mod
Playing backseat driver I was thinking : “Look Mr POTUS, the reason why you made up the story about the youtube riot is because you had already claimed that Bin Laden’s death made these diplomats safer and now they are dead due to your incompetence. “

Greta van Susterin had an interesting theory: If Romney had been smoother/more convincing on this point, it might be just one more item that the audience might or might not remember. But by stumbling somewhat, Romney ensured that all the talk shows are going to keep talking about the Obama administration's bizarre comments about the Benghazi attack (not to mention that he went to a Vegas fundraiser the same day as the attack). And Obama would probably like to avoid those subjects.

280 posted on 10/16/2012 9:58:40 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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