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Some taxpayers outraged over Prop 30 [Jerry Brown tax hike]
Fresno KSFN ^ | Oct 25 2012 | Dale Yurong

Posted on 10/26/2012 1:55:15 PM PDT by WilliamIII

FRESNO, California (KFSN) -- Proposition 30 would increase the California sales tax by a quarter of a cent. The money raised would help fund education and public safety.

Business and taxpayer groups opposed to Proposition 30 gathered in Fresno. They say taxes should not be raised in a down economy. But some students and educators at Fresno State say the initiative would give education a much needed $6 billion boost.

"There's nothing in there about higher education but even that's irrelevant," Jon Coupal said. "There's no provision in there that adds new money to the education budget."

Sean Kiernan said, "Section 2, paragraph G explicitly states that this money goes to schools and to point out that some money would go to other sources as if that somehow means that doesn't go to schools now is just abhorrently dishonest."

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: braking; communism; elections; government; incomeredistribution; socialism; taxes

1 posted on 10/26/2012 1:55:17 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Anyone who votes yes on 30 is a fool.

The government will tax you without asking for your permission every chance it gets. Voting to tax yourself is the acme of folly.


2 posted on 10/26/2012 1:59:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: WilliamIII

CA I’m sure was depending on Obama re-election to bail them out. Its not going to happen and CA is going to be in a world of hurt by 2013.


3 posted on 10/26/2012 2:01:11 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: WilliamIII

Saying it is for education probably really means it is for teachers’ already bloated pensions. The teacher’s union is holding the kids hostage for indulging their greed.

I am here in California, and my daughter is in a junior college. Still I say vote no!

Starve the beast! It’s a hostage scheme and there is only one way out! Bankruptcy for California, and the sooner the better!


4 posted on 10/26/2012 2:06:48 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Socialism is just like any other form of corruption, except that it is perpetrated by a mob.)
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To: WilliamIII

I’ll try to act surprised when it passes.


5 posted on 10/26/2012 2:07:25 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Tzimisce

Right now apparently it looks like it’s going to pass.

Do the Rich Have a Moral Obligation to Pay Higher Taxes? CA Gov. Brown Says ‘Yes’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2950589/posts

“Recent polls show support for Prop 30 is waning, but the law is expected to pass. Should California residents vote in support of the proposition, it could have widespread implications in other states and on the federal level.”


6 posted on 10/26/2012 2:22:48 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: BenLurkin

Yep, as a Texan, i now live in Marin County CA. The LIB majority out here is for ALL government, no matter how it’s cloaked.

THE ONLY time i’ve even seen ANY of these old dopers ‘care’ about individual freedom is when THEIR ox is getting gored.

Like enviro’s wanting to close THEIR golf course, they squeal like the pigs they are.

GORE these pukes.


7 posted on 10/26/2012 2:30:06 PM PDT by apostoli (Obama stash now includes FREE healthcare! oh, and OBAMAPHONES!)
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To: helpfulresearcher

I live on a small island in WA with 5000 population. Approximately half of the population are Californians and the majority of them are retired teachers, cops, firemen and pilots.

In my line of employment I see financial information on these folks and it’s quite typical to see pensions of $70-100k per year from a City, County or State of California. Guess what? There is no state income tax in WA. so they file their taxes from here.

Winter when it’s cold and rainy, they return to the sunny south where they continue to have Prop 13 benefits on their homes. Car tabs....WA has a flat fee of $42 no matter the car. Prop 30 won’t hurt these Californians and they could care less. Lots of Permanent Disability Californians as well.


8 posted on 10/26/2012 2:47:05 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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“...Approximately half of the population are Californians and the majority of them are retired teachers, cops, firemen ... quite typical to see pensions of $70-100k per year from a City, County or State of California....”

And that is the real reason for Prop 30, they need it to keep these guys on the gravy train. All the money from this is expected to go into pensions. I’ve looked at the California pension system, you’ve got costs going up 10% per year while investments are only making 3%. They’ll be insolvent in 10-15 years or sooner as all productive people are leaving CA.


9 posted on 10/26/2012 3:16:49 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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