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Hundreds evacuated after US levee breaks; people on roofs awaiting rescue
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 10/30/12

Posted on 10/30/2012 4:42:33 AM PDT by Kartographer

Hundreds of people are being evacuated after a levee broke in a northern New Jersey town early Tuesday. Bergen County executive chief of staff Jeanne Baratta tells The Record newspaper the entire town of Moonachie is under water and as many as 1,000 people could need to be evacuated.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanesandy; levee; sandy
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To: MD Expat in PA; GeronL; Strategerist; GlockThe Vote
It made me very angry to see some people here saying that a major disaster in the NE would be no big deal because all those people are just “liberals”, they live in “Blue States” and so they deserve it.

I have not seen that but I think those of us who have survived truly destructive hurricanes watch with some amusement as the NY-DC media describe a mild hurricane/tropical late season storm as Stormzilla and the Apocalypse when it's really not about this being much of a storm but rather where it is hitting...which is admittedly a factor.

And yes indeed I do think that liberals are much much more likely to feel it's all about them and to whine at the slightest inconvenience...versus the stoicism of conservatives...that is part of what separates us from them.

Then there is the media that hypes this up to sell ad space....FOX being truly obnoxious.

This is a large mass but mild late season tropical storm which will cause flooding and worst of all power outtages and some infrastructural damage and very little loss of life

Major destructive storms are very rare above Hatteras...I can only think of (2) Cat 4 or better past 90-100 years...1938 and Hazel

and thank God for that...the population concentrations are an issue as is nowadays the demographic issues and lawlessness.

fortunately aside from a few barrier island low spots, shore relief up north is fairly sharp..which helps

folks are going to be without power for days..maybe a week or more and flooding is yet to determine...surge beat Irene but I think rain will not...which is good.

I do not think folks deserve calamity because they have wrong political views but I do think those folks tend to be less prepared, more afraid in general and dependent on others...not exactly the stock that made us great over the centuries

My daughter is in Park Slope...cell phone working...power on and off..off now i think...they are just holed up with the dogs

She lived through Andrew very close to landfall in South Miami/Old Cutler Road...she knows what a destructive storm is all about as does her daddy who lived through Camille in 1969 as a 12 year old and I am a former Manhattan residence from the 80s

Media hype aside I hope folks get their power back soon, flooding in manageable, snow in Appalachia is not damaging and fewer trees fall on folks regardless of how they vote or think about God etc..

121 posted on 10/30/2012 9:20:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Moonman62

All those in NYC without power should go to Times Square, it’ll be like a New Years Rocking Eve come early. Nanny Bloomberg can bring the unsalted food and birth control.


122 posted on 10/30/2012 9:21:11 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: wardaddy

In hindsight it shouldn’t surprise us that New Welfare City seems to have been wholly unprepared for this. You would think a major on the coast would have long been preparing.


123 posted on 10/30/2012 9:23:30 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Follow the light.

Too bad Bloomberg has been more concerned about liquid in fast food cups rather than the water that flooded lower Manhattan.

124 posted on 10/30/2012 9:24:41 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: wideawake

Thanks


125 posted on 10/30/2012 9:36:29 AM PDT by xone
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To: wardaddy
Media hype aside I hope folks get their power back soon, flooding in manageable, snow in Appalachia is not damaging and fewer trees fall on folks regardless of how they vote or think about God etc..

As someone who's been through major hurricanes, this storm was over-hyped. That's not to say it didn't cause damage, but the weather's been causing damage throughout the history of civilization. It's too bad these things have become huge national political events. There are more pressing issues.

126 posted on 10/30/2012 9:40:06 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Jeff Head

Good post.

I’d also like to see a show of hands among East Coasters and New Yorkers who are pro-Obama but also would like to get the benefits right now, of coal-fired plant generated electricity.


127 posted on 10/30/2012 9:49:53 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: arasina

The storm did result in a death in Toronto yesterday so they were probably not including that death.


128 posted on 10/30/2012 10:04:39 AM PDT by NYorkerInHouston
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To: alancarp

I am really starting to get angry at alot of these FReepers - everywhere from simply dismissive to flippant and derisive, and cruel.

I saw some really obnoxious posts pre-storm from a few particular people who keep heaping it on. But now I’m also seeing add-ons from people simply dismissing anything that’s happened.

I’m tired of people crying about how “we’re ignored” (total BS - we heard about Katrina for a week before it hit; and we know about the super events in the midwest), and even more childishly bratty:

“our storm is better than your storm!”

OOOOOooooo, is this making me mad!

I’m finding it hard to now be rational and put down my genuine observations as someone who actually was concerned for once about a TS/hur heading this way.


129 posted on 10/30/2012 10:07:30 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: djf
No government or people, short of being humble and simply doing the best they can, can be prepared for an Act of God.

The very phrase should give everyone a clue.

Whether Katrina, or Sandy, or a major Tsunami in Indonesia that kills 250,000 in a day...you simply can only do your best, wait it out, and then work with the survivors to rebuild and help as best you can.

If folks will do that, and leave the politics out of it while the disaster is approaching, occurring, and as we clean up after...there will be plenty of time to analyze what went wrong afterwards. Then, if there is a major problem, you point it out and fix it.

My original point was simply to indicate out how the MSM handled Katrina, blaming Bush for every conceivable thing, when no one could have been fully prepared for that type of event. Just like this one.

THE LESSONS OF KATRINA

substitute Sandy in for each reference of "KAtrina" and you are good to go.

130 posted on 10/30/2012 10:22:12 AM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Kartographer; madameguinot
Kart, there are other options outside of the two you cited.

Madame, I thank you.

See my post 130 on this thread.

131 posted on 10/30/2012 10:25:43 AM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Doogle

How did Newark and the Port Elizabeth area fare during the storm?


132 posted on 10/30/2012 10:25:45 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: reformedliberal
I'm watching on Weather Channel.

Besides geography lesson, I can see how devastating it looks.

I can't imagine dealing with the snow. I'm southeast Texas so snow is very rare and melts within the same day it snows - everyone runs outside like "what is that white stuff?"

They say 2 feet in some areas. D-A-N-G!

133 posted on 10/30/2012 10:28:39 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all, does it?)
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To: LibertyRocks

I agree with you Liberty and I thank you for your support...i have been absolutely disgusted by the things I have read on here from Fellow Freepers...Nasty, ignorant and hateful comments...they would give the people from DU a run for their money...

This is not about the category of the hurricane...whether it was a 1 or a 5 or a Tropical Storm...I wish nobody ill will or feel like they deserved what they got...nor minimize anyone’s situation as ‘it’s just some wind and water’...

The people referenced in this article are the people I grew up with...i grew up in Wood-Ridge NJ which shares a High School with Moonachie. I played sports on the very fields that are underwater and still know people in the area...my friends have lost houses, are trying to get in touch with relatives, and are worried about what they will find when they go back home...

The people making hateful and stupid comments dont get it....it’s not that NY thinks they are better than anyone else, it is that it does not take a Cat 3 or 4 to mess things up...we have 3 major airports shut down affecting the entire country.. LaGuardia will be closed for quite some time....the entire US Financial system is on hold...every business in this country that is listed on the NYSE, AMEX or Nasdaq does not know what its value is today...lower Manahattan is under water, the tunnels were under water...it affected 40 million people....The Jersey shore is wrecked...Boardwalk in AC is severely damaged...The piers in Seaside are destroyed...Casino Pier is gone, Jenks is damaged...home upon home on the barrier islands are damaged...

Many Freepers seem to forget that there are other Freepers living through this and that while our states may not always vote Red, if you want to be purely political, NJ, NY, and PA send a good number of Republicans to Congress that contribute to our overall majority...Governor Christie has been outstanding, but apparently praising President Obama makes him a traitor...what is he supposed to say? Obama is a jerk? Maybe Obama has been helpful...i want him voted out next Tuesday, but to dedicate whole threads to this topic is stupid...Governor Cuomo has been outstanding as well, and while I do not agree with him politically, he has provided solid leadership, as has Mayor Bloomberg....the libs are supposed to be mean and hateful, I thought Freepers were beter than many of the things I’ m reading...


134 posted on 10/30/2012 10:29:29 AM PDT by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; wideawake; NVDave; GeronL

Perhaps the damage to our liberty, no thanks to the decades of our liberty being dismissed, being derided, and our love for our country being flippantly rejected by cruel words uttered incessantly by liberals of New York City in particular, is greater than you estimate.

Adding to losses due to natural disasters, are those heavy losses of what we hold dear: our freedom and pursuits of life, liberty, property, and happiness, and for the duration of the Obama administration, *opportunity* -— you know, the things that liberals keep “working” at taking away from *you.*

You’re asking a lot, of people who would mount up 10 trucks loaded with fuel, electrical generators, food, blankets, chain saws, and some sidearms for personal protection ... then off to NYC and environs, to do what they can to help ... to only find, *cruelly,* that upon their reporting in to a Manhattan fire station, they are all arrested for carrying their .38 revolvers for which they all have concealed carry permits.

Please do not underestimate the weight upon our shoulders, merely by examination of the power of this or that storm system; there is much more involved here, for people who mostly only see trucks from the liberal media, which are breathlessly awaiting a chance to film a disaster west of the Hudson, and the only help from one of such production trucks, is the conservative soul who can while the “talking head” is looking the other way.


135 posted on 10/30/2012 10:31:05 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Doogle
I copy and paste the coordinates to Google?

I'm just slow on this.

TIA!!

136 posted on 10/30/2012 10:32:33 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all, does it?)
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To: Jeff Head

Yes I know, but deniers seem to prevade FR


137 posted on 10/30/2012 10:34:50 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: PGR88

badly...the full extent is concentrating on NYC...but I just got back from an expedition...*smiles*....all traffic lights are out..(western Morris cty)...gas stations that are open have lines that go hundreds of feet....a lot of people ran out of gas for their generators....pretty messed up....few stores are open...burger king...drive up only....tractor supply..and one seven eleven...malls are dark


138 posted on 10/30/2012 10:39:10 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: PGR88

...also heard Cristy say those small rail cars you see along the turnpike by the refineries were washed up and close lanes last night on the pike...surge just washed them up there..


139 posted on 10/30/2012 10:42:31 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

Thanks! Was/is there heavy flooding there (Port Newark/Elizabeth) or more wind damage / lost electricity?

Have a good friend with a business just outside the port area, across the tracks North of Newark Airport - I’m sure he is super busy, so haven’t wanted to bother him with a call just yet....


140 posted on 10/30/2012 10:44:47 AM PDT by PGR88
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