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Romney Loss - Evangelicals "Again" Stayed Home
IFB ^ | 11/7/12

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

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To: Ann Archy; Elsie; The Ignorant Fisherman; All
Elsie, I'll ask you flat out, I think you are an Evangelical....Do you believe Catholics are Christians?? Yes or No....not really too difficult.

Btw, per CNN's exit polls, Catholics voted for Obama 50-48%...vs. white Evangelicals, who voted Romney 78-21%

So, given that the Jewish vote (69-30%), the Black Protestant vote, the liberal mainline Protestant vote, and the Catholic vote all collectively combined to elect Obama...why is the only religious segment to support the GoP (besides Lds) tossed under the bus in this thread -- to begin with???

(I guess when you have a moniker of "ignorant" in your screenname, in some cases 'tis a confessional!)

421 posted on 11/07/2012 4:03:23 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: Elsie

Aren’t you the biggest Mormon hater around here?


422 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:17 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Colofornian
How did WHITE Catholics vote, as I see you have evangelicals segmented as such.
423 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:26 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 10/07/12)
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To: Elsie
I honestly don't know enough about Mormon theology to be specific. That's why I chose to exclude it from the discussion.

To me, that's a good set of values.

I disagree with the no coffee or tea, though! But, then, that leaves more for me.

424 posted on 11/07/2012 4:12:12 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Elsie

..... I grew up Baptist.

And I have a long list of dos and donts also.

So what’s the big deal?


425 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:09 PM PST by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: truthluva

Are you starting your third party with the DUmmies? Smooth move.


426 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:24 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We told you Mitt wouldn't win.)
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To: Ann Archy; Elsie
Elsie, I'll ask you flat out, I think you are an Evangelical....Do you believe Catholics are Christians?? Yes or No....not really too difficult.

Since denominational affiliation does not dictate whether one is really a Christian or not, it's a meaningless question.

There are Christians and non-Christians in every denomination.

Being a Catholic does not by default mean being a Christian. Neither does being a Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, or whatever flavor of religion you choose.

The only thing that varies from denomination to denomination is the percentages of Christians in each one. Some are more likely to have more because they teach the truth, than others.

427 posted on 11/07/2012 4:15:09 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta; All
Even though I live in PA & Romney had no real chance here, I voted for him & so did my daughters. I Despise obama...

All: Seems like a tacit admission here that the motivation behind this vote had NOTHING to do with conservativism and more to do with what the Obama & his minions' motivation...

Remember, when Obama told a crowd not to boo, but rather vote for purposes of "revenge?"

Veangefulness (of Romney) was Obama's way.

Voting out of despising someone -- knowing full well that the vote "had no real chance here" of actually aiding Romney to win -- sounds like a hater.

Had enough conservatives in obvious blue states voted for Virgil Goode -- sending a message to the GoP establishment not to alienate their very base the next go-round -- we might actually get somewhere.

But, sending a message that we'll sleep with whoever they send to spend the night; that we'll toss away our convictions & standards for a cup of extremely short-term political pottage; isn't very attractive to be as "leaders" to the conservative movement.

No wonder the GoP-e considers to overlook us...We can be "had" so cheaply...

428 posted on 11/07/2012 4:16:42 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: greyfoxx39

No, you are not invited.


429 posted on 11/07/2012 4:20:56 PM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
How did WHITE Catholics vote, as I see you have evangelicals segmented as such.

I don't have exact % as of yet

But I know Hispanics supported Obama 71-27%...and I'd say probably 80% (or more) of Hispanics are Catholic...

So, you'd probably be quite correct to assume that white Catholics supported Romney more than Obama...but probably by % somewhere around 50-47...that would be my guess...

The bottom-line even there is that even among white Catholics, I don't think Romney got their majority of all white Catholic votes (51%)...

430 posted on 11/07/2012 4:22:14 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: Elsie

FWIW: I knew there was a reason I voted for Mitt:

“Today, Frank Ricciardone, the U.S. ambassador to Turkey, announced that Obama’s first trip of his second term will be to Turkey, a country which has witnessed under its increasingly Islamist government an unprecedented roll back of basic freedoms. The Turks are looking at Obama’s choice as an endorsement. They are probably right. On top of this, Ricciardone’s announcement comes right after Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoan announced that he would soon travel to Gaza, in recognition and support of Hamas.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956732/posts

Mitt was my last choice in the GOP primary, but he didn’t hate America and he doesn’t love Islam in all its forms. I spent some time in Turkey when it was still a secular muslim country. Don’t want anything to do with it now.


431 posted on 11/07/2012 4:23:54 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit.)
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To: svcw
Romney is a practitioner of mormonISM and he was also a liberal - but hell he was the only guy who could beat obama after all.

I believe it would be more accurate to say that Romney is one of the few in the bunch that couldn't beat Obama...

Way back in the primaries, people were warned that the conservative base (in general) would not vote for Romney but he was forced upon us anyway...

And that coupled with the liberals who figured that Obama did a better job at being Obama that Romney would have, it was a no brainer...

A word to the wise; next time, get on the band wagon of the candidate that the base wants to support...

432 posted on 11/07/2012 4:44:51 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: SENTINEL
The final national lifeline IMHO was Sarah Palin.

I agree...The people that trashed Sarah Palin can't figure out why her supporters (many of them) wouldn't vote for Romney...

433 posted on 11/07/2012 4:49:34 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

The GOTV here was awful. I was the ONLY one that did anything, Precinct captain is a Ron Paul guy. Two days before the election, he put out a yard sign. That was the extent of his effort.


434 posted on 11/07/2012 4:52:26 PM PST by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: SENTINEL
Which Isreal, ...Isreal ? Or Salt Lake City which mormons teach is "New Isreal"...What you were hearing when Romney talked about support for Isreal was in part cult code speak for supporting Salt Lake City !!

You may be right about that...I don't follow the Mormon religion...But I do know that Obama will facilitate Iran to launch nuclear weapons against the 'real' Israel...And I have seen where Romney claimed he would support the 'real' Israel during any military conflicts...That's what clinched my support for Romney...

435 posted on 11/07/2012 4:55:03 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: reaganaut
One other VERY important point. the USA is NOT the protector of the Nation of Israel, God is. It appears you are putting more faith in the USA than in God.

God is not and has not been standing on the Mount of Olives protecting Israel...It's quite clear that God has used the U.S. to provide weapons and money to Israel in order for Israel to defend itself and prosper...Who can't see that???

436 posted on 11/07/2012 5:01:47 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

How sad you have such a low opinion of yourself


437 posted on 11/07/2012 6:05:25 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

There is no anti-mormon bigotry - there is exposure of mormonISm.
Christian are sick to death of mormonISM claiming they are Christianity.
Get over yourself, an learn the difference.


438 posted on 11/07/2012 6:24:55 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

Unless you can PROVE on anti-mormon post, then shut the hell up.
Grow up and stop the ignorant “oh you support obama” because you didn’t kiss the butt of Romney.


439 posted on 11/07/2012 6:28:05 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: mom4melody

“Our pastor voiced concern about Romney making mormonism more mainstream.”

When he was governor of Massachusetts, his religion was a non-issue and many people didn’t even realize he was a Mormon.


440 posted on 11/07/2012 6:55:33 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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