Posted on 11/10/2012 4:05:42 PM PST by Kaslin
On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.”
The Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, had this to say concerning the 141% voter turnout: “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here.”
So maybe Allen West wasn’t crazy to ask for a lock-down on the ballot boxes and machines in this county. According to the report given the day after elections, Allen B. West garnered 52,625 votes in St.Lucie county and Patrick Murphy 65,896 votes.
This is a problem that must be addressed right away. There is no reason that there should ever be more than 100% turnout. This county alone could have cost Allen West his election. Voter fraud is real, and it is time that this be solved.
When I’ve voted I was told that if I made a mistake, for instance, I would need to turn in my ballot that I had marked wrongly so they could void that number - thus explaining why the results would be less one ballot. They’d give me a new ballot, they said. The point being that they had to account for what happened to all the ballots they handed out. If somebody crumpled up their whole ballot I would imagine that an election worker would have to void that ballot number, because that ballot was not used to submit a vote.
But to fill out one page and then go to the trouble of treating the other page differently in order to not submit it, rather than simply putting both sheets together into the sleeve seems like more trouble than a frustrated voter would want to go to. If you’re in a hurry, vote for what you care about, skim over the rest to see that you don’t care, and then stick it all in the sleeve and head out.
But the tabulation of undervotes tells me that they kept had to have a way to know which page 1 goes with which page 2 - which suggests some kind of serial/ballot number that matched page 1 to page 2. And if that was the case, it makes no sense for the software designers (literate people being paid to do a specific, detail-oriented job) to use the number of pages cast to calculate the “% Turnout” on their summary report.
The latest from West:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958151/posts
Note that he is not talking about voter turnout of 141% and any of that stuff. If that were true, don’t you think that that would be at the top of his list???
Rather he’s betting that they “accidentally” pulled 4400 cards out of a pile that had already been counted and counted them again, and all those 4400 just happened to have his opponent’s name marked off on them.
Suppose that all the computer knows is that there’s a page 1 filled out and a page 2 filled out. How does the computer know whether this is one complete ballot filled out (no undervotes at all), or whether it is one person’s undervote for the Presidential race and another person’s undervote for the amendments (or whatever is on page 2)?
Here is the vote tabulation. Note that it even included in it the Blank Votes 397 and the Over Votes 43 to reach the 124,031 number:
Mitt Romney REP 56125 45.41%
Barack Obama DEM 66246 53.60%
Thomas R Stevens OBJ 66 0.05%
Gary Johnson LBT 517 0.42%
Virgil H. Goode, Jr. CPF 31 0.03%
Jill Stein GRE 110 0.09%
Andre Barnett REF 11 0.01%
Stewart Alexander SOC 10 0.01%
Peta Lindsay PSL 9 0.01%
Roseanne Barr PFP 145 0.12%
Tom Hoefling AIP 11 0.01%
Ross C. Anderson JPF 32 0.03%
Write-in Votes 278 0.22%
TOTAL Votes 123591 website #
Total Votes 123591
Times Blank Voted 397
Times Over Voted 43
Total votes counted 124031
Have either of you ever done something with one or another of the ballot pages rather than putting it in the sleeve and letting the computer sort out what you did or didn’t vote on?
I hardly ever vote on school board because I don’t know anything about that race. I’m not going to display my ignorance by throwing away the ballot though. I just put it in the sleeve and neither the computer nor my friends at the polling place will have any idea that it was me who didn’t vote for that race.
Having both pages on record would be important to prove that the person was given the complete ballot and chose not to vote on those issues.
Here are the raw numbers from St Lucie:
http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
Enjoy —
How did the computer know how many ballots were cast? For instance, the question I’ve been asking is this: The computer reads card A with a vote for President and card B with a vote for Amendment 8. How does the computer decide whether that is one complete ballot, or 2 undervotes - an undervote in the Presidential race by somebody who only handed in card B, and an undervote in the amendment race by somebody who only handed in card A?
I feel like I’m in an echo chamber. I’m asking these questions and all I get back is the same numbers that I’ve been dealing with all along.
You...and Barry Goldwater.
The Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965. The Republican candidate for President in 1964, Barry Goldwater, loudly objected to the terms of the act and, in the end, voted against it.
His argument was that all the provisions of the act should apply equally, everywhere -- not just in the states and counties with a "history of discrimination". He noted that the Constitution seemed to demand such an outcome.
But it was passed anyway. And, having voted against it, the Democrats (and their compliant media) labelled Goldwater a racist.
Which is one of the major reasons why blacks are anti-Republican today -- even though the GOP members in the Senate voted 30-2 in favor of the bill (and voted 32-0 for cloture, breaking the Democrat filibuster against the bill).
But if you want to see where the fraud in the House West race is look at the vote totals that were tabulated at this time. They were showing Murphy with a 13,000 vote lead over West. What????? yep: West: 52,625 and Murphy:65,896.
And now after the recount the difference between them is less than 2,000.
How does a machine make an 11,000 vote error????
That is where your fraud is. How did the machine give Murphy 65,000 in the first place versus 52,000 for West in what the County now admits to have been an 11,000 vote error out of 124,000 votes cast??? That's where we should be looking.
The civil rights movement of the 1960s spurred a generational and cultural discontinuity in the Black community parallel to that among whites. In both instances, Republicans were on the side of tradition, order, and more gradual progress, and opposing street protests against the Viet Nam war and disorderly mass civil rights protest marches.
In both instances, the new cultural and political loyalties among the young who embraced such protests accrued to the enduring benefit of the Democrats and the Left. A new generational shift will soon be underway though when young people realize that they have been handed the bill for their elders' unsustainable Medicare and Social Security benefits, with a future further constrained by a dismal regulatory and tax structure fashioned by the Left.
Definitely, there is validity to that explanation, as well.
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In my polling place, we had a three-card ballot. The first card contained federal and state races, the second card contained state initiatives, and the third card contained local races. All three cards were double-sided and fed into an optical scanner.
For my three-card ballot I cast on Tuesday, here's how each card was numbered (per the strip torn off each card I got to keep as a sort of receipt):
Side One: A-Card 1, [number1] [(number2)] [number3] BT:3 (right side)
[number4] - POLL, [number5] [barcode square graphic]
Side Two: [number4] - POLL, [number5] [barcode square graphic]
Side One: B-Card 2, [number1] [(number2}] [number3] BT:3 (right side)
[number6] - POLL, [number7] [barcode square graphic]
Side Two: [number6] - POLL, [number7] [barcode square graphic]
Side One: C-Card 3, [number1] [(number2}] [number3] BT:3 (right side)
[number8] - POLL, [number9] [barcode square graphic]
Side Two: [number8] - POLL, [number9] [barcode square graphic]
There were three numbers consistent between the three ballots, and two which were unique to the ballot. I believe the "BT:3" indicated there were three cards per ballot.
Ack. I meant to say, there were three numbers consistent between the three CARDS, and two which were unique to each CARD.
What about Ohio, Colorado, and Pennsylvania ?
Did those states have ballots with more than one page?
If Rep. West wasn’t in any of the counties allowed extra days to vote, would he have a case under the equal protection clause?
Would he also have a case under the voting rights act?
And how about discrimination on account of racial background?
He went and voted, but wasn’t given those extra days :)
His District covers all of St Lucie and Martin counties and part of Palm Beach county.
I had a two card ballot this year. The totalizer number on the ballot receiving machine only registered one vote after I inserted both pages. I can’t believe that other jurisdictions didn’t calibrate their machines correctly.
What would the machine have registered if you had only inserted one card and walked out with the other one???
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