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The Voters who stayed Home (bitter pill: Republicans re-elected Obama)
National Review Online ^ | 11/10/12 | McCarthy

Posted on 11/11/2012 11:27:31 AM PST by pabianice

The key to understanding the 2012 election is simple: A huge slice of the electorate stayed home.

The punditocracy — which is more of the ruling class than an eye on the ruling class — has naturally decided that this is because Republicans are not enough like Democrats: They need to play more identity politics (in particular, adopt the Left’s embrace of illegal immigration) in order to be viable. But the story is not about who voted; it is about who didn’t vote. In truth, millions of Americans have decided that Republicans are not a viable alternative because they are already too much like Democrats. They are Washington. With no hope that a Romney administration or more Republicans in Congress would change this sad state of affairs, these voters shrugged their shoulders and became non-voters.

“This is the most important election of our lifetime.” That was the ubiquitous rally cry of Republican leaders. The country yawned. About 11 million fewer Americans voted for the two major-party candidates in 2012 — 119 million, down from 130 million in 2008. In fact, even though our population has steadily increased in the last eight years (adding 16 million to the 2004 estimate of 293 million Americans), about 2 million fewer Americans pulled the lever for Obama and Romney than for George W. Bush and John Kerry.

That is staggering.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012analysis; 2012electionanalysis; andymccarthy; conservatives; cutoffnosevoters; elections; gop; gopcivilwar; gotv; obama; republicans; rinos; romney; romney2012; voterturnout
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To: kabar

The Ohio loss is Kasich’s fault. If only he didn’t pump up Ohio’s economy so much... /semi-s


181 posted on 11/11/2012 2:53:52 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Elsie

Are they crossed?


182 posted on 11/11/2012 2:58:52 PM PST by monocle
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To: NoLibZone

O Bullshite! The majority of FR voted for Ryan/Romney.


183 posted on 11/11/2012 3:06:31 PM PST by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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To: Elsie

>> We are GUARANTEED an ETERNITY of leftism if you listem to the doom and gloomers posting here today

And “the country is lost”, “it’s over”, “it was a good idea while it lasted”, etc.

Wasn’t in agreement with the protest vote, but much less in agreement with those willing to throw in the towel.

Onward to the midterms!


184 posted on 11/11/2012 3:12:42 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: GeronL

Manufactured ballots? As of last count, Obama got 7.5M less votes than last time. And I’m not talking about Obama. I’m talking about Romney. How come he get less votes than McCain? When McCain was an awful candidate, Obama has had 4 years of ineptitude to gen up Republican enthusiasm, and the population has grown a few million in the last four years? Clearly, Republicans stayed home. I have no idea why, and neither do the Republican pollsters who were counting on a much bigger turnout.


185 posted on 11/11/2012 3:20:08 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Bigjimslade
Anyone that voted Romney but not McCain ?

My wife, for one. A lifelong Dem, she voted R for the first time in her life.

The country may be going to hell, but the political life in my house is getting better.

187 posted on 11/11/2012 3:57:25 PM PST by RugerMini14
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To: bigdaddy45
I’m talking about Romney. How come he get less votes than McCain?

He didn't. He's going to surpass McCain and get pretty close to Bush's 62M in 2004. See post #129 on this thread.

188 posted on 11/11/2012 4:06:12 PM PST by Ken H
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To: pabianice

Be prepared to hear all about lots of “voters staying home”...the Bipartisan Oligarchy would rather we all stew in that mess..than having us all bothered, and deciding to investigate, about all the voters voting who never voted...

Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23/No-Car-Finds-2-214-Registered-Voters-110-Years-of-Age-Older

A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.

The very LAST thing the Bipartisan Oligarchy want or need is any semblance of Constitutional Federal Gov’mt or a clean vote.

Both those are up to We the People to cram it down their throats so hard in DC they will, someday, never do otherwise.

Absent a clean vote.....We the People are being taxed without representation..Ask George III how well that worked out!


189 posted on 11/11/2012 4:07:46 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Elsie

Get real. I have a lot of libertarian positions. They have Zero chance of electing anyone. Adults recognize politics is about the possible, spoiled children throw tantrums at the polls.


190 posted on 11/11/2012 4:46:04 PM PST by Kozak (The means of defence again.t foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: Elsie

Bet you spend all your time spanking the monkey.


191 posted on 11/11/2012 4:47:15 PM PST by Kozak (The means of defence again.t foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: DoughtyOne

I will from this day forward refer to you as
Doughty-Wise-One!


192 posted on 11/11/2012 4:50:47 PM PST by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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To: jjotto; All

“So you think the GOP in DC should select a county and precinct chair in Iowa? That Republicans never meet face-to-face in their own neighborhoods?”

NO, I think cauceses can be manipulated too easily and should go away - they are passe. Having EVERY state GOP run a CLOSED primary ensures that ALL GOP voters, and ONLY GOP VOTERS, in each state get a say in who gets the delegates from their state. That is NOT controled by the GOP in DC. However, it keeps wack-jobs like Paul from manipulating votes.


193 posted on 11/11/2012 5:26:54 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Elsie

Elsie, you twisted my sentence around in a feeble attempt to argue against the overwhelming logic in my post. It didn’t work.

I said:

-—”You naively think that this country can abruptly transition from its current pathetic liberal mindset to conservative mindset OVERNIGHT if we simply run a TRUE conservative candidate. False!”

You twisted it into:

-—”You naively think that this country can abruptly transition from its current pathetic liberal mindset to fully Marxist, KGB mindset OVERNIGHT because we simply failed to elect a decieve MORMON to lead us.”

While Mormons are indeed out of the mainstream, you apparently PREFER our current Muslim-leaning Marxist Tyrant to a more free-market, strong defense Mormon. Yes I fault you and those who think like you for that. No, it doesn’t make me “feel better” to have to fault you for that. It just saddens me that there are people who just don’t understand the “lesser of two evils rule.”

In this case, Romney was SIGNIFICANTLY the lesser of two evils and you know it. We’re now screwed, thanks to you and yours and of course, the Greedy Liberals.

You’re as bad as a Democrat in your ability to use logic and reason.


194 posted on 11/11/2012 5:32:51 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: pabianice

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Sign the petition for a recount:
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

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Visit this site.
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

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SATURDAY UPDATES (Thurs and Fri fraud at site)

Military service members purged from voter rolls in Florida...
http://redflagnews.com/military-service-members-purged-from-voter-rolls-in-florida

Pundit Press: In Florida: Obama Got Over 99% in Broward County Precincts
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/in-florida-obama-got-over-99-in-broward.html?spref=fb

TRR: Allen West Seeks Recount Amid Growing Vote Count Scandal
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/9/allen-west-asks-recount-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/

[This is the same St. Lucie that has 141.1% voter turnout affecting both Romney and West...]

St. Lucie County - 84 juridictions, 83 of them had 121-166% turn out
http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf

Nevada Unions Are Regestering Illegals and Forcing Them to Vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGd50sZG4g&feature=share

The video suggests that this method was the only way Harry Reid was able to defeat challenger Sharon Angle in 2010 to retain his Senate seat and continues to be used.

via Jewel on Facebook: “Could you please help us? There is a petition for a recount and it takes 28,000 signatures. We are all promoting it and would love to have you on our side. The link to sign the petition is:”
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpetitions.whitehouse.gov%2Fpetition%2Frecount-election%2FZQmy0Mlv%23thank-you%3Dp&h=4AQEgo5BK

Another petition, this one to Congress:
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

You can also request that Reince Preibus of the GOP start a swing state recount based on information available at this website and as part of ORCA (Thanks Shirley!):
http://www.gop.com/contact-us/

I’ve added links to all three petitions to the sidebar at the top of this page and expect to add more.

Voter Fraud by the numbers? Absolutely
http://www.altadenagroup.com/CSIA/post_details.asp?p_ID=10774

Thank you to everyone who is sharing this page! As of Saturday morning, we are getting about 3,000 visitors an hour. You are making a difference!

SUNDAY UPDATES

This one is MUST SEE:

“Obama won 100% of the 900,135 votes cast in Cuyahoga County OH! No votes from new registered voters or indies went to Mitt. Voting officials SHOULD BE ARRESTED BY OUR MILITARY FOR SEDITION & PERPETRATING A FRAUD AGAINST ALL OF AMERICA. A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT WILL BE FILED against the networks for not telling the truth! view pic.”
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3474982207064&set=a.1633846179814.70439.1646473511&type=1&theater

Summary Photo
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/534531_3474982207064_881171232_n.jpg

Throw out this all-fraud county and Mitt wins Ohio, no question!

Why? A total of 5,364,324 “people” voted in Ohio. Obama got 2,691,861 votes, while Romney got 2,584,620, a difference of 107,241 votes.

How did Cuyahoga County’s 900,135 votes affect the final result? You do the math.

For Ohio to certify this result would be a crime in and of itself.

Thank you to the Examiner for mentioning us!

Citing voter fraud, petition at White House web site demands recount of election
http://www.examiner.com/article/citing-voter-fraud-petition-at-white-house-web-site-demands-recount-of-election

Thanks also to The Competent Conservative for quoting us in entirety!

Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount?
http://thecompetentconservative.com/is-there-enough-evidence-of-voter-fraud-to-merit-a-recount/

Much more to come! As one of our commenters below said, voter fraud is like cockroaches. You find one and they are likely everywhere. Cuyahoga County, Ohio is obviously not alone!

Here is a petition you can sign at Change.org to request a full recount. I suggest we just focus on the swing states, but it is true that many Congressional and Senate races are also affected, from Allen West to, I believe, Mia Love. Mia was up by 10% the week before the election and lost by 3,000 votes to Matheson in a state that went 73% for Romney. Not likely!

http://www.change.org/petitions/united-states-federal-election-commission-we-demand-a-full-recount-of-the-2012-presidential-election

Military votes not counted?
http://nera.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=191%3Amilitary-ballots-not-counted&catid=81%3Ablog1&Itemid=148

The Columbus Dispatch reports, “Voter rolls in Ohio are bloated, experts say”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/09/16/voter-rolls-in-ohio-are-bloated-experts-say.html

An update on St. Lucie County, Florida:
http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/update-massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-called-into-question-141-turnout/

Video: More fraud from Florida, including kicking out an elderly poll observer doing his job using the police:
http://www.bizpacreview.com/elections-supervisor-calls-police-to-kick-elderly-allen-west-ballot-observer-out/

Townhall blogger Rachel Alexander reports:

Obama Likely Won Re-Election Through Election Fraud
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud

The Washington Times: Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters
http://m.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/10/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-voters/

Here is a link to Allen West’s press release on the voter fraud situation in Florida:
http://bit.ly/TCYnUe

Newsmax reports: Voter Fraud Charges Begin in Ohio

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ohio-voter-registration-fraud/2012/11/03/id/462674

Darin Southam recommends TrueTheVote.org for some pre-election indications of potential voter fraud, but the page understates what actually happened in pretty much every swing state.
http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures

And what do you think of this? This was way before the election, but apparently George Soros, who we have already established rigged an election in Hungary and was banned for it AND helped get Obama elected the first time... I’ll let you read the headline:

“Soros advises Obama to use forceful measures to override the will of the people”
http://redwhitebluenews.com/?p=12336

I think this goes well beyond the 900+ executive orders that go around Congress, more than three times the executive orders given by all previous US Presidents combined. We saw it in action Tuesday, November 6th!

A Tea Party group has posted this article, with interesting stats and some criticism for Romney for not standing up and doing something about it yet:
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/m/discussion?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A1108645

Personally I think as the case is strong enough, Mitt will do something. Too much is at stake, and as we just found out, Ohio is definitely Mitt’s, and Florida, too, just based on fraud in a few counties! Colorado, too!

Keep up the referrals and the sharing, everyone! Thank you SO much for helping America fix an election that has clearly been “fixed.”

Voter fraud cheapens the votes of the 60 million who picked Mitt to the point of nothingness and gives weight to those who in reality were the minority. If grand theft is defined as any theft over $5,000, what do you call the ONE BILLION times that that is likely to happen AGAIN over the next four years if we do not right this wrong?

Here is to our real President Elect and First Lady, Mitt and Ann Romney.

Posted by Jed M. Merrill at 1:56 PM 68 comments:


195 posted on 11/11/2012 5:33:41 PM PST by patriot08
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To: All



Sign the petition for a recount:

http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

Visit this site. They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/






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Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket

https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138



Must watch videos!


VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY



VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0



VIDEO- Michael Savage: How Obama fixed the 2012 election: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc



VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0



VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud: http://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=player_embedded&v=k_rMpQKqZhM





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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!




196 posted on 11/11/2012 5:34:41 PM PST by patriot08
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To: DoughtyOne
Voting in RINO Republicans has as nearly destroyed our nation as voting in Clintons and Obamas.

True, true. The RINO GWB damaged the GOP brand beyond repair.

It's my belief that this last election was stolen AT THE PRIMARY level. Here in California, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that Ron Paul didn't win the GOP primary.

197 posted on 11/11/2012 9:13:53 PM PST by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: Elsie

Elsie I don’t have a zot button, I expressed my opinion just as you do, usually in some mile long post that no one reads.


198 posted on 11/11/2012 9:48:02 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Tau Food

Why are you discussing 2016?

You will have no nation or Republican Party to defend in 2016.

Obamacare is now impossible to repeal. The deficit will be $22-24 trillion in 2016.

The US economy will be at or near collapse.

There will be a Hispanic amnesty so look forward to another 10 million Democrat voters.

And you are talking 2016 as if anything matters in the 2016 elections? No, this was the last election wherein we had the power to save the nation.

It is over. The 2016 presidential election will prove meaningless. You are too late. The damage will be finished by 2016. There won’t be anything to save and the demographics are just getting worse every year that more Hispanics and other children brainwashed in the government schools come of voting age. There will be 30-40 million new Obamacare recipients and all of them will vote Democrat for their free goodies.

It is over. The 2016 election comes too late for anything.


199 posted on 11/11/2012 11:24:52 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Nothing matters anymore. The Socialists won.)
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To: baddog 219
But the real reason the Republicans lost.....NO BALLS! The republicans will not fight back.

EXACTLY.

200 posted on 11/11/2012 11:31:30 PM PST by nutmeg
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