Skip to comments.Is Papa John's the Next Chick-fil-A?
Posted on 11/13/2012 1:24:21 PM PST by IbJensen
It happened again. Another restaurant chain is under attack from the left. This time, it's Papa John's Pizza. What was so terrible that the liberal talkers are going bonkers? The CEO simply spoke the truth -- if Obamacare kicks in, there will likely be cuts to employee work hours in order to cover the new healthcare costs. Don't liberals realize that bigger government comes with consequences?
As reported by The Washington Times, John Schnatter, the CEO of Papa John's Pizza has come out swinging against Obamacare, and the liberals don't like it.
Recently, however, Papa John has come under fire for his comments about ObamaCare. ObamaCare is expected to hit Papa John's with recurring costs of $5-8 million per year. Schnatter has said that he intends to pass along the costs of ObamaCare to the consumer, as any normal business would. He mentioned that the total cost of ObamaCare will be an estimated 15 to 20 cents per order. "Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this."
Most recently, he claimed that many of Papa John's franchises are considering cutting employees hours in order to pay for ObamaCare. Papa John is not alone in this. ObamaCare will require businesses large and small to pay extra costs for healthcare. Hundreds of other businesses have released similar statements about the law that kicks into effect soon. These businesses will not be able to hire or will have to fire employees as a result.
His observation of the costs of ObamaCare has been taken as a political statement. Many leftists have demanded that he pick up the costs of ObamaCare with his own hefty fortune, rather than building it into the cost of the pizza or cutting employees' hours.
It's amazing that those on the left have absolutely no comprehension of how business works. Just like regular corporate taxes or compliance costs due to extra regulations, costs forced on business by the government will be forwarded on to consumers or result in cost cutting measures elsewhere.
As left wing groups are calling for a Papa John's boycott, some conservatives are stepping forward to organize an "appreciation day" for the pizza chain. Here's a report from Fox News:
Daniel Wetter is just 16 years old, but his plan to support pizza chain Papa John's amid a backlash of liberal criticism is no pie-in-the-sky idea.
Wetter is part of an upstart group called Rebooting America that is proposing that Friday be a national day of appreciation for the pizza chain, whose chief executive officer is being attacked for saying employees' hours might be cut to cover the cost of implementing their health insurance under ObamaCare.
The conservative group has hatched a social media-based campaign that centers on encouraging people to buy a pizza pie at a Papa John's store, taking a photo of the outing and then posting it on a Facebook page or tweeting it.
Of course, the liberal talking points are that Schnatter and his corporation have enough money. They should pass it along. That's not the point. It is for no one to judge if a person has become "successful enough." The real point is that government is stepping in where it does not belong, and businesses will react accordingly.
Here is a law that the American people did not want. They had a chance to vote for change and didn't. And now, the effects will be driven home... into everyone's pocket book. Whether it's in the form of taxes or higher costs for goods and services, the lesson is the same: there is nothing that is free. Someone will always have to pay. Good for Papa John in speaking out!
The Republicrat Party may be in trouble, but the Democrats are committing suicide. They're as dead as last week's newspaper.
The libtards aren’t going to be able to buy a whole lot if they decide to boycott EVERY company that is cutting back due to Obamacare...
A business is laying people off! LET’S BOYCOTT THEM SO THEY INCREASE THEIR EMPLOYMENT!!!!
(most libtards don’t even get to the “oh wait” part)
‘Don’t liberals realize that bigger government comes with consequences?’
“... but the Democrats are committing suicide.”
Unfortunately, they’ll be taking a large chunk of the country over the cliff, with them.
Does Papa John’s sell pizza, “by-the-slice”? After repairs to the Farm from Sandy, that’s about all I can afford, right now.
While Papa John’s is not my favorite pizza...it soon will be. Just as an aside...Papa John’s Cardinal Stadium is 20 minutes from my house...
I cracked up when a few days ago the now fired coach of the Lakers, Mike Brown was interviewed as he left his local Chick filA. His butt would have been in deep doodoo if he was still in the employ of the Lakers and with the NBA. His little smile was in his private delight in knowing his interview would infuriate the whole gay/lesbo/trans/donkey/gerbil crowd.
I doubt this “buycott” will take off. One thing conservatives like about Chick-fil-A is they treat their employees well. Unlikely that ostentatious layoffs will attract many conservative customers, however much we detest y0bamacare.
There on their own. I hate their pizza.
The whole purpose of liberalism, at the sheeperal level, is to remove all consequences.
Down with greed!
Down with the 1%!
Down with CEOs!
Down with employment!
Oh, um, wait a second...
Where these guys (chick-fil-a, pappa johns, etc) is that they telegraph their intentions. I know, I know, the urge to make a public point about why they are reducing employment is strong but if I were them I’d just do it and let everyone make their own conclusion as to why. Eventually most folks will connect the dots.
Hello fellow Louisvillian. Northeast Jefferson County here.
I’ll be going there a lot more often now.
I am on the “sunny side of the ‘ville”...one of my sons and his wife and baby live over in your neck of the woods, and another one of my sons lives very close to the stadium.
Leftism is a continual struggle against the dark forces of reality. They believe that if somehow Papa Johns doesn’t recognize the additional costs of CommyCare, those costs will magically disappear.
I have just sent the link to this article to the people at Pizza Hut and challenged them to make a public statement with regards to Obamacare and how they will be handling it.
Have you tried the BBQ chicken bites?
If this stands the mom-and-pops who can fly below the Obamacare radar screen will put him out of business.
The only problem I see with a “buycott” of PJ’s is the product sucks dog. Maybe give some pies to a homeless shelter or something....
If the left wants to boycott them, more PIZZAs for me!!! Yum!!
Please Left, boycott 'RED ROBIN' next? I want to go there without having LIBERALS next to me!!
We went to Papa John’s the other night. Good pizza.
Now sitting back waiting for the boycott of Olive Garden. Please keep me posted if you hear anything.....
I seem to recall some libtard turning the PJ logo into a coat hanger.
No, but if you go to their website, they always have some deals going on. I got a five topping large pizza for 12 bucks last week.
SURE they do!
They don't want the MASSES to figger it out until it can be firmly fixed in their minds it is the CONSERVATIVES fault!!
Most CONSERVATIVES; you mean.
Any ability of even a glimmer of logic is effectively washed out of the brain of a Liberal; filled with EMOTION and FEELINGs only.
Thanks; I can raise that kind of cash. My neighbor says they have a walk-in/ per-slice counter. He doesn’t like their pizza very much, but I’m willing to try a slice.
Just this morning a local big chain grocery store met 4 long time employees at the door with layoff notices....No fanfare....clean out your lockers and leave....
(as an aside...I got a call yesterday from a local semi-charity that I’ve given a few bucks to in the past...I listened politely and then said...Sorry...It’s “Obama Times”...Doubt Ill be donating to you for the next 4 years....I could tell the lady was taken aback....It was kinda fun actually)
Leftism is a continual struggle against the dark forces of reality.
Being a liberal means never having to consider consequences.
Hmm, if Obama and his supporters aren’t showing the exact understanding of business as the looters from Atlas Shrugged (”That’s your job, not ours. Ours is only to demand. It’s up to you to deliver”.), then I’m a commie.
I think you have confabulated Papa John's with Domino's when it was owned by Tom Monahan (sp?). He was an ardent pro-life advocate who was the subject of leftist boycotts, particularly on college campuses. My surmise is that he sold the chain because of the political aggravation.
I expect they will never actually connect the dots.
But they will blame
Emmanuel Goldstein Bush...
Our family eats Papa Johns at least once a week. Sign up at their website and they always have fantastic deals. I bought a large supreme for $12 1 1/2 weeks ago and received a free 3 top large on Sunday. They constantly have deals running. Personally it is my favorite pizza chain.
I don’t see much in common between the two. Chick-fil-A took a stand on moral principal, Pappa Johns on a financial one. I applaud both on their stand, but Chick-fil-A took theirs on an issue that was not tied to their revenue. I’ve enjoyed CFL for a long time and will continue to eat there. Papa J’s(even though I agree with their stance), is just run of the mill chain store pizza. I won’t boycott nor go there more often
“...but if I were them Id just do it and let everyone make their own conclusion as to why. Eventually most folks will connect the dots.”
100% agree. Telegraphing EVERYTHING is a flaw non-leftist have in spades.
Unfortunately it does not make any difference if the demoRAT party commits suicide as the Stupid Repub party is too stupid to do anything about it. Also being dead is no hindrance to the RAT bastard demoRAT socialists. In fact dead people are their most reliable & faithful voting bloc.
“...but the Democrats are committing suicide. They’re as dead as last week’s newspaper. ..”
Maybe...but they’re still in charge, unfortunately.
I’ll support Papa Johns anyday. Good pizza, and Schnatter is one of The Good Guys.
“I dont see much in common between the two. Chick-fil-A took a stand on moral principal, Pappa Johns on a financial one. I applaud both on their stand, but Chick-fil-A took theirs on an issue that was not tied to their revenue. Ive enjoyed CFL for a long time and will continue to eat there. Papa Js(even though I agree with their stance), is just run of the mill chain store pizza. I wont boycott nor go there more often”
I think they have decent food for a decent price, and hubby likes me to bring one home some times, and we split one at the office sometimes for lunch.
I plan to eat there lots more often, just to annoy liberals.
Trying to make liberals deal with economic reality is probably comparable to a religious experience - just trying to chip away a little at the indoctrination they get at the government schools.
They will do as they always do pick a few token victims and try to terrorize them into submission. But your right the laws of physics & economic reality dictate this behavioral.
What really pisses the liberals off is that company’s are admitting to the effects of the costs upon them and their clientele.
Most of the time Government raises taxes or imposes a regulation almost nobody realizes that is why the prices for their goods & services have gone up.
Obama talks about forcing the rest of us to give up some of our share of the pie, a Marxist concept at its core but he has no idea that the pie is our product, we can’t give it up without ending up with less of it to go around all together.
It is an unfortunate failing of democracy, that people(who by nessity) are ignorant of most of the world’s system are as a result so easy fooled by leaders(politicians) into believing the most ridiculous things.
I wish i could tell you how to educate them but the sad truth is the left has largely taken over those aspect of our civilization for the last 50+ years.
They have in that capacities chosen to omit & demagogy the truth about economic freedom and business. We have been unsuccessful in stopping them. The result is economic freedom, and indeed all other freedom which is depended upon economic freedom will suffer a massive blow due to John Robert’s lawless “republic” inability to protect us from the ravages of democracy.
Yes that is right this problem of ignorance & greed is nothing new to democracy.
Our best hope now is that some of us might break off and form our own country in which we might preserve something of the couture and traditions of these united States. This land is probably lost to the murderous shifting passions & greed of democracy.
That's what I'm doing as well. I'm composing a 'form letter' that I'm going to mail to all the regular charities we've supported over the years. I'm going to explain how we're just tapped out after four years of Obama (and the sky high cost of living in liberal Connecticut), and now we're looking at another four years of Obama hell. I'm done.
My husband and I are worried about our own survival now. The charities will have to fend for themselves (with a couple of exceptions).
Any charity that supports what I suspect are Obama voters are particularly "dead to me" now. That includes food pantries, etc.
There is a rumor that the company I work for might cut back hours for enough employees to reduce the number of full timers to 49 or less.
If they cut me to 29 hours, I might volunteer to be cut to 20 hours, then apply for early Social Security to make up the difference in take home pay. That is the way the math works out for me.
I used to earn $60-80 an hour working my own business, before Obama. Now I’m forced to work an 8-5 job making way less than $20 an hour.
No ... sorry.
I quit believing that.
Half the population is below average.
Beyond that, most folks have been taught NOT to think. I spent a year teaching in public school, and became convinced that many of my 'colleagues' were deliberately teaching the kids NOT to think, NOT to employ logic, and NOT to concern themselves with the truth of what they considered 'facts'.
Hitler got his start with what’s broiling in the good ole USA today!
You’re right, however, Papa John’s is a target due strictly to obamanomics.
“I agree with you take on not donating to anyone, anything associated with a oboma vote. The sad thing about food pantries is that senior citizens and others who are there through no fault of their own will suffer. And the illegals and generational welfare abusers will continue to receive through other means. The pantries are well organized and each person receives the same basic foodstuffs in quantity and by item. You either are served on a first come basis, stand in long lines in good and bad weather, or you are given a number, and then are called accordingly. What little they receive is of vital importance to those people who are citizens of this country and worked hard in their lives and are now in need of help..I would remember them and not deny the food pantry what little you can donate to them. “
FEMA is such a useless bust, because the government that works best, is the government closest to the people.
Same with charities - a lot of churches minister to people they have screened, who they know really need the help, not just willy nilly throwing out bread crumbs where the sloths and parasites soak up a lot of it.
Maybe we should take a look at the charities and food pantries to see which ones do the best job of using the resources we give them.
Heifer Project gives people animals and training, with the agreement that they pass along the first female offspring, so when I give to them, they multiply it :)