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The ‘Unskewed Polls’ guy who fooled a nation tries again [Grifter Not Quite Done Grifting Yet]
roanoke.com ^ | 11/20/12 | Dan Casey

Posted on 11/20/2012 8:32:45 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: LongWayHome
RE :”It’s complicated. The GOP is facing demographic replacement & they don’t know what to do: fight it & face the racism charge...or just go along to get along. The GOP has not kept up with the new voter technology. And IMO the democratic party is now so lawless & criminal that the GOP is at a loss in how to deal with them.”

I agree with you that it is a very difficult fight but the Rs making believe they are winning when they are losing isn't helping at all.

Their endless screw-ups and lost opportunities are not that complicated.
See : Letting Us Down: GOP Losing Susan Rice Debate comment #14

81 posted on 11/21/2012 9:04:53 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

No doubt the GOP is killing itself. I would like to see the GOP become more populist & go for the voters in the upper mid-west. That means immigration reform & job protection. They need to somehow get Iowa & WI & ohio & Penn along with VA if they want to remain a national party.


82 posted on 11/21/2012 9:16:01 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: sickoflibs

And I didn’t...


83 posted on 11/21/2012 11:19:44 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: itsahoot; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
RE :”Stand up folks and take a bough.

Bough
noun
A branch of a tree, especially one of the larger or main branches.
dictionary.reference.com

84 posted on 11/21/2012 11:47:09 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs; LongWayHome; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
People like to forget that most every single poll but Gallup & Ras showed Romney behind in every swing state all summer & fall. And we now know what trash Gallup & Ras turned out to be.

Rasmussen had Obama 237 EVs, Romney 206 EVs, 95 tossup. Hardly a favorable prediction for Romney. It was a pretty close election. While I found it hard to believe that there weer that many idiots who would vote for Obama, it seemed apparent that Romney would not have an easy win.

Ras electoral map

85 posted on 11/22/2012 11:14:48 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; LongWayHome; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”People like to forget that most every single poll but Gallup & Ras showed Romney behind in every swing state all summer & fall. And we now know what trash Gallup & Ras turned out to be.
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Rasmussen had Obama 237 EVs, Romney 206 EVs, 95 tossup. Hardly a favorable prediction for Romney. It was a pretty close election. While I found it hard to believe that there weer that many idiots who would vote for Obama, it seemed apparent that Romney would not have an easy win. “

BTW : that first comment above('most every single poll') was not mine but I agreed with the general idea in my reply to it.

I remember all the teeth gnashing and whining whenever Rasmussen would show a poll of his with Obama ahead of Romney. Then the other ones of his that showed Romney ahead of O would be cited as gospel.
One Republican I know personally repeated to me :”Even Rasmussen admits he over-samples Dems in his polls” which made no sense why he would say his own polling methods were wrong.

Like I pointed out above, the Romney campaign was inept and many Republicans (certainly here) are prone to overoptimism every four years.

86 posted on 11/23/2012 2:27:16 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE:” While I found it hard to believe that there weer that many idiots who would vote for Obama, i...”

If someone has no health insurance and no or little money and Obama promises to DIRECTLY have the gubment give it to them for free (expanded medicaid) and he says he will pay for it by ‘asking those greedy rich white males to pay a little more’ that probably sounds pretty alluring to them.

Romney replied that tax cuts for ‘job creators’ (who appeared to be everyone who pays Federal taxes) would provide more jobs, maybe not for him though.

So if the election is a contest of who is the biggest Santa then Obama is going to win.

Don't forget those free abortion pills.

87 posted on 11/23/2012 3:50:22 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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Continuing that line of thinking : So as that voter I (not me personally) figure out that I will get more out of O being elected than I will from Romney. So I am leaning O.

Then I hear the tape of Romney telling rich donors :”47% of this country are a bunch of freeloaders who will never vote for me anyway so I don’t give a crap about them”.

Well the result should not have been the surprise that it was to so many here. I could have told you that this would not work.

If Mitt cant even get a majority of Asians you know he had a problem. Republicans need to do better than this.

88 posted on 11/23/2012 4:11:15 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs
Hey, bro, it's like I said... Willard would've made a damn fine Democrat nominee for President. Arrogant, elite, non-Conservative and a total fraud. Just add criminal to the mix and you've got their dream candidate.
89 posted on 11/23/2012 4:15:51 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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RE :”Hey, bro, it's like I said... Willard would've made a damn fine Democrat nominee for President. Arrogant, elite, non-Conservative and a total fraud. Just add criminal to the mix and you've got their dream candidate. “

Lets say the polls were really all rigged as were the election boxes, and the country was set up so there are so many freeloaders that it was impossible to win the election (two popular frustration narratives here), well then it would be better than this if we had a great nominee who we were proud of who lost for those reasons.

If things get worse under O and his popularity dives (our best hope now) I still cant say ‘If Romney won things would be great because....”

90 posted on 11/23/2012 4:31:57 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; GOPsterinMA

Don’t get me wrong, I have no doubt there was voter fraud. That’s the Dems stock & trade. But that was just one of many things that added up to the fiasco. I think we got about the minimum we could get, however. I was ringing the bell for over 6 years with this guy, so the ultimate conclusion was what I predicted.

Had he “gotten” the votes, I don’t expect that the outcome with him as President would’ve been significantly altered. In the short term, the stock market would’ve jumped, unemployment would’ve eased, but for the long term, it’s questionable. The things that would need to be done run counter to his instincts as a liberal.

It would’ve been more of the same-old we’ve seen since Eisenhower, no dismantling of the Democrat-Socialist welfare state bureaucratic complex, but merely “managing” it. There hasn’t been any bonafide trimming since Harding/Coolidge. Willard is more like Hoover, a liberal 1910s Progressive who largely was in ideological opposition to his two excellent Conservative predecessors. For that matter, so was Dubya. Both left a mess and a template to allow their Dem successors to expand government beyond all proportion (in Dubya’s case, the bailout).

Willard, too, had no credibility on healthcare, as it was he who also provided yet another template for Zero to push his monster. How could anyone truly see him dismantling something for which he served as the inspiration for ? Ultimately, because no really sweeping changes, so absolutely necessary at this point, would’ve been made under him, whatever economic turnaround would be brief indeed before the coming economic calamity. He would’ve cost us Congress by 2014 (had we won the Senate, as we should’ve) and probably, too, would’ve lost to whomever the Dem nominee would be in 2016 (be it Hillary, Andrew Cuomo or Martin O’Malley).

Sadly, we’re left with the likes of the ballless Boehner, whom I have no faith in to play hardball with Zero. Too bad we can’t take a lesson from Democrats on Congressional leadership. Dingy Harry may be worthless as a human being, but that little bastard is a vicious, ruthless and relentless. Pelosi was no shrinking violet, either, when she served under Dubya during her first term as Speaker. I don’t want kind-hearted marshmallows, we need a Lee Atwater type. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. The Democrats are so used to us folding like cheap suits, they wouldn’t know what to do with a Republican who actually fought back. Too bad the establishment would never allow a fighter, that might cause them embarrassment while making their rounds on the chablis & brie party circuit in DC.


91 posted on 11/23/2012 5:04:49 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: sickoflibs
Busybody

a person who pries into or meddles in the affairs of others.

1520–30; busy + body

Synonyms
snoop, pry, meddler, Nosy Parker; gossip, blabbermouth. Concern Troll, grammar police, spelling police.

92 posted on 11/24/2012 2:22:37 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: itsahoot
RE :”Concern Troll”

I am concerned about you LOL

93 posted on 11/24/2012 6:27:13 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs
I am concerned about you LOL

My sincere thanks.

“Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”

94 posted on 11/25/2012 1:35:30 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I thought I told you to quit using that picture. I was drunk, geez. Did I post that drunk dial voice mail you left me when you crashed at Catwoman’s? Dang billionaires think they run everything.


95 posted on 11/30/2012 10:55:41 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Cigarettes are like squirrels: Perfectly harmless until you put one in your mouth and set it on fire)
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