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Stirrings of Secession
Townhall.com ^ | November 30, 2012 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 11/30/2012 11:57:37 AM PST by Kaslin

"When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another ..."

So begins the Declaration of Independence of the 13 colonies from the king and country to which they had given allegiance since the settlers first came to Jamestown and Plymouth Rock.

The declaration was signed by 56 angry old white guys who had had enough of what the Cousins were doing to them. In seceding from the mother country, these patriots put their lives, fortunes and honor on the line.

Four score and five years later, 11 states invoked the same right "to dissolve the political bands" of the Union and form a new nation. After 620,000 had perished, the issue of a state's right to secede was settled at Appomattox. If that right had existed, it no longer did.

What are we to make, then, of petitions from 25,000 citizens of each of seven Southern states -- 116,000 from Texas alone -- to secede?

While no one takes this movement as seriously as men took secession in 1861, the sentiments behind it ought not to be minimized. For they bespeak a bristling hostility to the federal government and a dislike bordering on detestation of some Americans for other Americans, as deep as it was on the day Beauregard's guns fired on Fort Sumter.

Our Pledge of Allegiance still speaks of "one nation under God, indivisible," but that is far from the reality in the America of 2012.

The social, cultural, moral and political revolutions of the 1960s, against which Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan inveighed to win their 49-state triumphs, have now captured half of the country.

One America believes our history is a catalog of crimes against people of color, that women have an inviolable right to abortions, that condoms should be handed out to sexually active teens in schools where Darwinism should be taught as revealed truth, while Bibles, prayers and religious symbols should be permanently expelled.

The other America sees all this as unpatriotic, godless and decadent.

One America believes in equality of rights; the other demands equality of results brought about through the redistribution of income and wealth, affirmative action, racial and gender set-asides, and quotas.

One America believes in gun control; the other in gun rights.

Now that Christmas and Easter have been expunged from public schools and the public square and the popular culture has been thoroughly de-Christianized, we Americans seem to have but one holy day of obligation that brings us all together: Super Bowl Sunday.

Where one America divinizes diversity, the other seeks out our lost unity and community. Half the country pays no federal income taxes, but half depends on federal benefits.

The occasions when we come together as one, as after 9/11 and during natural disasters such as Katrina and Sandy, seem few and farther between, and the resurrected unity rarely lasts.

Could today's America come together to build an interstate highway system or send astronauts to the moon, as we did just seven years after John Glenn first orbited the Earth?

Environmentalists would have killed Ike's highway system and the Hoover and Grand Coulee dams, as today they seek to stop the fracking for oil and natural gas and block the Keystone XL pipeline.

As for states seceding, however, is that really a solution to national disintegration? Tens of millions with Blue State mindsets live in Red State America, and vice versa. While folks in Texas may talk of seceding from the Union, folks in Austin talk of seceding from Texas.

Yet we should take seriously what is behind this desire to separate and sever ties, for it mirrors what is happening across our civilization.

The West is decomposing.

British Tories seek to cut ties to the European Union. Scots want to leave Britain. Catalans vote to divorce from Spain, to which they have been wedded since the 15th century. Flemish talk of leaving Walloons behind in Belgium. Northern Europeans are weary of carrying their profligate southern brethren and muse about cutting Greece adrift and letting it float out into the Mediterranean.

And Americans are already seceding from one another -- ethnically, culturally, politically. Middle-class folks flee high-tax California, as Third World immigrants, legal and illegal, pour in to partake of the cornucopia of social welfare benefits the Golden Land dispenses.

High-tax states like New York now send tens of thousands of pension checks to Empire State retirees in tax-free Florida. Communities of seniors are rising that look like replicas of the suburbs of the 1950s. People gravitate toward their own kind. Call it divorce, American-style.

What author William Bishop called "The Big Sort" -- the sorting out of people by political beliefs -- proceeds. Eighteen states have gone Democratic in six straight presidential elections. A similar number have gone Republican.

"Can we all just get along?" asked Rodney King during the Los Angeles riot of 1992. Well, if we can't, we can at least dwell apart.


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KEYWORDS: abrahamlincoln; america; civilwar; usa
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To: Kaslin

Actually, many of us in Texas have long wanted to build a wall around Austin and impose passport control on I-35 and 290.


41 posted on 11/30/2012 1:41:31 PM PST by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: MestaMachine
I would advise you to look to the ghettos, barrios, and/or unions where there is no shortage of thugs, venom, OR weapons.

Thanks for the reminder. There are also liberals and union thugs dispersed throughout the red state regions who are not friendly to conservatives. These will be as snakes in the grass.

However the coming months or years play out, it will not be pleasant or easy for anyone. Living, or dying, in a war-torn $hithole is just that.

42 posted on 11/30/2012 1:46:37 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Jim Robinson
"then it is they who should be doing the leaving"

How do you propose doing that?

43 posted on 11/30/2012 1:48:45 PM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Travis McGee

Thanks, and I agree. The EBT failure will be a major trigger.


44 posted on 11/30/2012 1:51:45 PM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: catfish1957

I don’t care how they go, but it’s up to us to defend OUR constitution. And defend it we will. I’m not seceding. If the liberals insist on living under communist rule, they should move to Cuba. This is America and we believe in and defend Liberty!!


45 posted on 11/30/2012 1:59:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: catfish1957

But... but... all we have to do is work harder and win the next election! Right? Is this thing on?


46 posted on 11/30/2012 2:02:21 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RavenATB
My liberal sister is terrified of my purse. It contains a S&W .357 Magnum. I don't see her marching on us “right-wing nut jobs”, rifle in hand. I however, fat old grandmother that I am, am ready to man the barricades.
47 posted on 11/30/2012 2:02:47 PM PST by Himyar
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To: Jim Robinson
Going over the Cliff is probably the best option. The defense cuts are the hardest to stomach though
48 posted on 11/30/2012 2:05:05 PM PST by Figment
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To: Kaslin
For all those that think secession is illegal, think again. There is nothing in the constitution that disallows secession, in fact to claim it is illegal it to fly in the face of everything the constitution stands for. Freedom, freedom to leave the Union as well as to join it, once the feds start taking our freedoms we can leave the Union. Lincoln was wrong and started(yes, the North started the war)the civil war illegally. Losing that war cost us our 10th amendment rights.

We are at a point where we may never get back all of our freedoms if we stay in the Union, secession may be the only way out.

49 posted on 11/30/2012 2:09:14 PM PST by calex59
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To: Kaslin
. . . the issue of a state's right to secede was settled at Appomattox. If that right had existed, it no longer did.

Disagree. The Confederacy was bludgeoned back into the Union. Adding insult to injury, the Southern states have been supporting the rest of the country economically for at least the last 50-years.

50 posted on 11/30/2012 2:12:56 PM PST by Arm_Bears (The MSM lies about conservatives; and it lies about liberals.)
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To: meadsjn

I should have included the muslims and the nation of islam. If anyone thinks they won’t fight, they are delusional. And if anyone thinks they are not armed to the teeth, they are beyond delusional.


51 posted on 11/30/2012 2:24:55 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: RavenATB

Why would anybody possibly think that things would work out as easily as that? Why would anybody think that tearing up a great nation would result in such benefits? Why would anybody trust any politicians enough to think that they would “protect individual rights at every level of government” and run campaigns “based on which one of them would protect individual freedom”? How could anybody be so deluded about what politicians and people are really like?


52 posted on 11/30/2012 2:51:57 PM PST by x
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To: MestaMachine

From time to time, fire has proven to be an agent of urban change. Once, Chicago burned down.


53 posted on 11/30/2012 2:56:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: wmfights

People forget this political battle field has two equal hills, Federal and state. Well the socialists took the Federal hill, the state hill is overgrown and dormant and ripe for the taking.


54 posted on 11/30/2012 3:02:09 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: plain talk

It’s an osmotic stratification process, so moving “redder” is always good, but the first and best results will be from turning red deeper red, and making these states bastions of freedom and examples of success.


55 posted on 11/30/2012 4:04:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: central_va
I submit the "fun" part of socialism is over. The run on the Treasury was easy as taking candy from a baby. Spending $6 Trillion over 4 years was the "fun" part, now the so called greedy producers will pay the bill or else. We are are entering the "not fun" phase. Where we will start to actually feel the pain...

I hope a few of their decision makers are aware of ballistic reality.

56 posted on 11/30/2012 4:07:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

A proposal: www.freetexasconstitution.wordpress.com


57 posted on 11/30/2012 4:07:52 PM PST by grumpa
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To: TADSLOS
Nobody knows what will happen when magical thinking crashes into cruel reality. (And that unhappy event is baked in the cake.)

Or who, if anybody, will crawl from the flaming wreckage alive to write the next chapter of history.


58 posted on 11/30/2012 4:13:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: central_va
People forget this political battle field has two equal hills, Federal and state. Well the socialists took the Federal hill, the state hill is overgrown and dormant and ripe for the taking.

Yes, I agree strongly. And that's why I included federal in this little meme.


59 posted on 11/30/2012 4:19:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: plain talk

You mean like the “Free State Project” that was all the buzz around here a couple of years ago? They picked New Hampshire. How is that working out?


60 posted on 11/30/2012 4:34:13 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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