[Trapped Behind Enemy Lines]

These times demand strong action.

“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

[Jim Robinson]

Secession is not what we need. We need to plant our flag right here and invite the God-hating, capitalism-hating, constitution-hating wannabe totalitarians to take a hike. America, love it, live it, defend it or leave it!!

[Travis McGee]

[RavenATB]

Secession? Separate ourselves from liberal America?

Why would anyone want a society where our original founding principles are celebrated and honored? Why would anyone want a place where violent crime was a tiny fraction of what the US has today? Why would anyone want to have a small, efficient government? Why would anyone want a military where people are promoted and honored for achievement and ability, rather than for the color of their skin, or their gender...? Why would anyone want a country with a highly effective public education system and the freedom to home-school at will? Why would anyone want a country where individual rights are protected by ever level of government, and politicians run political campaigns based on which one of them would protect individual freedom and provide a safe, secure nation for our families and our descendants? Why would anyone what a country that established strict criminal penalties for voter fraud and then ensured each legal vote was carefully and accurately counted.

Why would anyone want to offer our children and grandchildren a better environment in which to grow up than we gave this generation of Americans? (sarc)

[SWAMPSNIPER]

The divisive issues have come to the point that this nation will soon be only governable by force.

It would be better to separate peacefully.

[freekitty]

I wonder if anyone has noticed that it is not Americans who are stirring the pot.

[chrisser]

The problem is more deeply rooted than simply disagreeing.

Half the country wants to forcibly take from the other half with the barrel of a government gun.

The latter half just wants to be left alone.

The only possible compromise, which we have been operating under for decades, is that the former half only takes part of what the latter half has.

That’s not enough for them - they want it all.

We must either capitulate completely, fight them, or separate.

[central_va]

The power of the Federal Govt is an illusion. The standing Army size now is a small as it has ever been in comparison to the total population.

The only thing keeping some states from contemplating secession is fear. Think about a union based on fear. Not really a republic, now is it?

[nolongerademocrat]

Who is John Galt?

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

While we are a ways from Social War such a war will be the only solution. A terrible solution.

[Repeal 16-17]

This country is headed toward either a Second Civil War or mutual separation (see Czechoslovakia).

[Zippo44]

Actually, many of us in Texas have long wanted to build a wall around Austin and impose passport control on I-35 and 290.

[calex59]

For all those that think secession is illegal, think again. There is nothing in the constitution that disallows secession, in fact to claim it is illegal it to fly in the face of everything the constitution stands for. Freedom, freedom to leave the Union as well as to join it, once the feds start taking our freedoms we can leave the Union. Lincoln was wrong and started(yes, the North started the war)the civil war illegally. Losing that war cost us our 10th amendment rights.

We are at a point where we may never get back all of our freedoms if we stay in the Union, secession may be the only way out.

[Arm_Bears]

. . . the issue of a state's right to secede was settled at Appomattox. If that right had existed, it no longer did.

Disagree. The Confederacy was bludgeoned back into the Union. Adding insult to injury, the Southern states have been supporting the rest of the country economically for at least the last 50-years.

[grumpa]

A proposal: www.freetexasconstitution.wordpress.com