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(Cops & Robbers Agree!) California Police Wish Gun Owners Would Just Comply with Robbers
GUNS.com ^ | 11/27/2012 | dabneybailey

Posted on 11/30/2012 2:24:58 PM PST by DogByte6RER

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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I have trouble believing you ...


61 posted on 11/30/2012 3:33:54 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I see stupid people. They’re everywhere ... and they don’t even know they’re stupid.


62 posted on 11/30/2012 3:39:36 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Farrah Fawcett was in a very interesting movie about women who capture and torture a rapist/killer, who wanted to rape and kill one of them, called Extremities (1986).

The movie was very low budget, but made a good box office, and it left me wondering how a “revenge fantasy” movie would do, based on some store owner who captures, tortures and threatens to kill an unsympathetic armed robber.

There is an awful lot of animosity out there to armed robbers, and I bet that if the screenplay pushed some good dramatic buttons, it could be much like the Dirty Harry series.


63 posted on 11/30/2012 3:39:49 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Eaker

What part of what I have said makes you think I am lying? I will freely admit I’ve never fired a gun in anger at another person, but I have fired plenty of guns at targets, and I know from that that my aim was pretty good when I had total focus, but sucked when I was faced with distractions and other stresses. Faced with a situation where I felt I had to use a gun on another person, I know from other violent situations I’ve been in with a high adrenaline level and consequent decline in fine motor skills that my aim would have sucked badly in that situation, and I’m pretty damn sure I wouldn’t be the only one whose shots would be going wild.


64 posted on 11/30/2012 3:40:05 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Bernard Marx

There it is: IACP. That says it all right there. I’ve been warning people about that organization. Gun grabbing liberal bed wetters that have infiltrated law enforcement agencies across the country.


65 posted on 11/30/2012 3:43:39 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: Rio

Seems like a sensible idea. Personally, if someone shot me or someone in my family because they were using penetrative ammo that came flying through the wall, I would prosecute them to the full extent of the law, regardless of the reasons why they fired the gun. I might be more sympathetic if they used a shotgun or the type of ammo you’ve posted, because at least it shows they were trying to be responsible.


66 posted on 11/30/2012 3:46:40 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Don’t think “bullseye” or “head shot”. Think “center of mass”. And use a target sized such that a hit of any sort represents a torso hit, X-ring or not.


67 posted on 11/30/2012 3:52:12 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Hey Sins:

You’ve been around FR for a while. You appear to be an “abstract” thinker. Which is all well and good.

But until you have been by yourself, surrounded by bad guys, there is another side to life.

Let me ask you one simple question: Have you ever had the overwhelming taste of a copper penny in your mouth, when NO copper penny is IN your mouth?

This is not a trick question, not an attempt at humor, not sarcasm, and not a means to ridicule you.

Those who know what I am talking about, need no explanation. Those who don’t, can’t. Until that day they taste it. Then they know, and can never explain it to those who don’t.

The street has no mercy.


68 posted on 11/30/2012 3:52:31 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Shut up, you’re just digging a deeper hole.


69 posted on 11/30/2012 3:53:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

>> “Personally, if someone shot me or someone in my family because they were using penetrative ammo that came flying through the wall, I would prosecute them to the full extent of the law” <<

.
You mean your heirs would sue?


70 posted on 11/30/2012 3:56:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Gene Eric

I appreciate your polite and respectful response. The only reason I question ‘weapons management’ is that for reasons already stated, I question how it is practical it is to really train the average person to handle a gun responsibly and safely (especially with regards to bystanders). I’m trying to visualise putting granny through a ‘stress training’ exercise where a big burly instructor gets in their face and starts shoving them and swearing at them and threatening to f*** them. That is the kind of training I that I believe someone should submit themselves to in order to learn how to handle the stresses of using a gun for self-defence in a situation where there are likely to be bystanders, but I doubt most people would be willing to undergo that kind of thing...


71 posted on 11/30/2012 3:57:25 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

“Good weapons management would be to brandish it only, or only open fire when there was a direct threat to her life, not her property”

An armed robber and an accomplice was in the store, how much threat to her life do you require? A statement of “I’m going to kill you?”

And brandishing weapons in non lethal force situations is very dicey business. And you are in for the dissappointment of your life if you think brandishing a gun is like some kind of obedience ray. It’s obvious that you have no practical or legal expertise here and are simply opining on what sounds acceptable to a housewife watching the TV news.

But lets let a couple of home invaders gang types come into your living room, (while you are there). At least one armed with a gun, and you can tell us if you think your life is under “direct threat”.


72 posted on 11/30/2012 3:59:08 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Or the bullet could ricochets off the metal window frame and maybe down to the street and maybe then off the bumper of a 1936 Cord convertible and then maybe, its energy almost spent, hit little Myron Goldsmuckerstein in his left pinky causing a rash that discourages him from violin and he goes on to a life of petty crime and letters to the editor writing thus breaking his mothers heart.

Or not.


73 posted on 11/30/2012 4:02:59 PM PST by Leisler (A trillion+ dollars a year printing fiat script=2% GDP. What happens when it stops. Or doesn't?)
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74 posted on 11/30/2012 4:04:10 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

As one of the gun nuts around here, teach the children well and start young. Then only the bad guys catch any bullets. They tell me I started at age 3. I really don’t remember the details myself.


75 posted on 11/30/2012 4:04:30 PM PST by gfbtbb (The answer to your question will not be found here.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Sins,

Come on, granny ladies have been blasting away at bad guys for a few centuries.

Look at the news for the last few years. Grannies have been doing quite well for themselves IN SPITE OF doogooder nannycrats who think granny ladies should give up the old man’s shotgun and rely on 911.

I can dredge up about 100 stories of granny ladies dusting off perps. How many stories can you dredge up about granny ladies accidentally whacking their kin?

At one point I was ready to give you a benefit of the doubt, but with this post, I think you are pulling stuff out your butt and throwing it against the wall to see what sticks.

Fartgas all.


76 posted on 11/30/2012 4:04:38 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Cops: Proof you never can be too stupid to get a job.


77 posted on 11/30/2012 4:09:17 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Spoken like someone that has never been there.


78 posted on 11/30/2012 4:11:48 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I doubt it is possible for you to be a bigger fag.


79 posted on 11/30/2012 4:11:48 PM PST by xone
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To: wesagain
I knew there was a good reason we have cops.....thanks for the reminder!

***********

When seconds count...
.... your local LEO's are only minutes away!

80 posted on 11/30/2012 4:13:00 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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