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Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare
Newsmax ^ | Saturday, 01 Dec 2012 01:42 PM | Sandy Fitzgerald and Martin Gould

Posted on 12/01/2012 12:26:17 PM PST by Olog-hai

Residents of states that refuse to set up health insurance exchanges under Obamacare are set to be hit with higher premiums under new rules announced by the Health and Human Services Department.

Insurance companies will be charged 3.5 percent of any premiums they sell through the federal exchanges, the department announced Friday. And insurers are likely to pass that surcharge on to clients, leaading to higher premiums.

The only states to be affected are those that refuse to set up their own exchanges because of opposition to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. They are almost certain to be those under Republican control. In those states, HHS will set up the exchanges. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: classactionlawsuit; illegal; impeach; jarrett; obamacare; pharaoh; punishoposition; socialism; taxesoriginatehouse
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To: Olog-hai
Will someone please clear up this question for me (it is too late to ask it, but...)

Under the Constitution ONLY Congress has the power to levy taxes....not the executive branch, not the judiciary. Congress told us repeatedly this was a mandate,....NOT a Tax. How can Roberts levy a tax...ONE man in this country...levied a tax and we are all jumping through our assholes trying to figure out what happened. Where did Roberts get the aurtority to do this?

101 posted on 12/01/2012 3:02:50 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: Olog-hai
Will someone please clear up this question for me (it is too late to ask it, but...)

Under the Constitution ONLY Congress has the power to levy taxes....not the executive branch, not the judiciary. Congress told us repeatedly this was a mandate,....NOT a Tax. How can Roberts levy a tax...ONE man in this country...levied a tax and we are all jumping through our assholes trying to figure out what happened. Where did Roberts get the aurtority to do this?

102 posted on 12/01/2012 3:02:50 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: ColdOne

You are right. This has never been about health but about total control of population. Justice Roberts should be impeached.


103 posted on 12/01/2012 3:05:24 PM PST by charlie72
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To: bigtoona
"If we cannot bring change by the power of persuasion, we will use the persuasion of power"

obama administration

104 posted on 12/01/2012 3:11:32 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Remember all of those bullits (1.5 billion rounds of 40mm) bought by homeland security.......there you go.


105 posted on 12/01/2012 3:14:53 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: Jim Robinson

And Chief Justice Roberts, too.


106 posted on 12/01/2012 3:15:12 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Olog-hai

"After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve."
107 posted on 12/01/2012 3:16:31 PM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Evil is always served by ambiguity.


108 posted on 12/01/2012 3:18:14 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Evil is always served by ambiguity.


109 posted on 12/01/2012 3:18:32 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: Olog-hai

The Supreme court said that states could to be forced to do this and by adding a new tax to it they are intact trying to once again force states to comply.Back tot he supreme court the states will have to go.


110 posted on 12/01/2012 3:20:24 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Truth29

What about section 1555 of the PPACA?


111 posted on 12/01/2012 3:20:54 PM PST by rthompson4442
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To: rthompson4442
The way I read section 1555, is to prohibit a penalty for any offerer’s decision not to participate in the Federal exchange. This looks like the reverse - a penalty for participating.
112 posted on 12/01/2012 3:28:00 PM PST by Truth29
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To: CommieCutter
obama could take out an ad that that he was going to kill people and rape young boys on the White House lawn Monday morning and no one would do anything about it. The main stream media would begin gushing what a genius he is for doing this. His worshippers would say Nixon did it too. The Republican Party would collectively caress their crotch where their balls used to be and smile. But other than that, nothing else will happen.

You can forget about anything being done to get obama out of office, including as was demonstrated on November 6, 2012, voting.

But,after all is said and done, obama is not the problem that ails the United States. The problem is the bastards that continually return him to office. They, not him,will be the cause of the demise of the United States. He will do his part, but, it is the parasites and traitors that will spell the doom of this onec great nation.

113 posted on 12/01/2012 3:30:00 PM PST by sport
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To: Olog-hai

And later on down the road the doctors who refuse to place themselves under obamacare will lose their liscense to practice medicine.


114 posted on 12/01/2012 3:33:07 PM PST by sport
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To: Safrguns

Or “asking” a company to violate the law and not send out
layoff notices in the required time-frame because said
notices would come out just before the election and make
him look bad, and to sweeten the deal, he promised to pay
the company’s legal fees out of our money?

That dirt.

Mike


115 posted on 12/01/2012 3:38:46 PM PST by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: R0CK3T

Revenge? I am there as well. I would like to see some revenge enacted on these bastards and their families.


116 posted on 12/01/2012 3:45:43 PM PST by plain talk
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To: mosaicwolf
I am starting to think the only way this calamity could happen in the US is due to some dark unseen forces of the universe beyond our control or understanding.

Hmmm... could it be...?


117 posted on 12/01/2012 3:48:30 PM PST by abishai
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To: Olog-hai

If only the Republicans controlled the House, where ALL appropriations are debated. They could defund Mengelecare anytime they wanted to.

Wait. What?


118 posted on 12/01/2012 3:52:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

We got Republicans, but we need conservatives.


119 posted on 12/01/2012 3:53:46 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: TLI
Yea right, little bammy's administration is going to "streamlining operations, and avoiding regulatory duplication" ???

Yeah..he wants a new arm of the intelligence sector to focus on global warming at a cost of billions....

We already got the CIA and other agencies working on this.

120 posted on 12/01/2012 4:16:52 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: RoosterRedux

All the liberals will move to liberal land where they set up the exchanges to avoid higher premiums!


121 posted on 12/01/2012 4:18:07 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: PoloSec

Or we could have a Speaker of the House with some backbone who refuses to fund this boondoggle. Paging John Boehner. Oh wait, I said a Speaker with backbone. Cancel that page.


122 posted on 12/01/2012 4:23:55 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: CommieCutter

“Someone get some dirt on this bastard. Get him out.”

It hasn’t dawned on you yet has it?

This is not the America you remember from a few years ago.

Obama isn’t going anywhere. He could be caught with a dead girl and a live boy and he still won’t be going anywhere.


123 posted on 12/01/2012 4:32:10 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Olog-hai

1) Somebody needs to run the numbers. As I remember, one of the States(Arizona?) estimated that it would take $65M to set up the exchange, and $45M per year to run it. Would a 3.5% tax on exchange insurance policies amount to more or less than $45M per year?

2) While the tax for not purchasing an insurance policy was explicitly written into the Obamacare law ... the 3.5% tax was not. All revenue measures must originate in the House. Roberts has already ruled that States could not be penalized for not setting up an Exchange. Sounds unconstitutional to me.

3) What if all of the insurance companies in a State without a State exchange decide they don’t want to offer the standard one size fits all insurance policy in the Federal Exchange? And ... what if the States, that have regulatory authority over insurance companies in their State, help them make that decision? What then?

Every attempt to fix this monstrosity of Obamacare produces reactions that require more fixes, that in turn have additional unintended consequences.

Please pass the popcorn.


124 posted on 12/01/2012 4:54:38 PM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
For ANYONE who said there is no difference between Romney and Obama, I say you are an idiot.

With respect to Romneycare vs. Obamacare is there really that much difference, other than what state vs. federal/state entails?

125 posted on 12/01/2012 5:03:42 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The primaries were rigged. Romney was declared the candidate by the pundits and the media before the first primary. For those of us who live in states where primaries were held late, there were no other choices.

Assuming we have another election, which is doubtful at the moment, the Republican Party will continue to put forth liberal candidates. If you want to continue to vote for liberals be my guest. I’m don’t with the Republican Party and its loser candidates who don’t represent me and my values.


126 posted on 12/01/2012 5:04:58 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Olog-hai
I'd like to see the States challenge this. Is it considered a tax? If so, Congress needs to weigh in on Sibelius muscling in on their territory.
127 posted on 12/01/2012 5:06:56 PM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m loving reading the comments here because conservatives might actually be thinking about organizing themselves to resist the criminal fascist syndicate occupying Washington. Let’s first see if the outrage lasts beyond a day.


128 posted on 12/01/2012 5:09:03 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Olog-hai

As if the states running an exchange aren’t going to have to do the same thing given the enormous unfunded cost in the out years.


129 posted on 12/01/2012 5:13:09 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Happy 10th FR birthday to meeeeeeeeee)
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The House needs to not fund everything and anything that has to do with Obamacare. If they don’t do this all the talk about repeal was just hot air. Obamacare can be killed by de-funding it, today.


130 posted on 12/01/2012 5:14:49 PM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: fatnotlazy
If you refused to vote for Romney, shame on you but you are WRONG about the primaries being rigged. Should there be another way? I don't know but I can tell you that the system was not rigged. I live in Iowa and there's some reason we have all these candidates coming here.

This is what happens with you have several conservatives splitting the vote and a moderate survives.

I did not support Romney at the caucus but I know with absolute certainty he is far, far superior to this communist/Muslim we have in the WH now. I share your concern about another election. If Romney had been elected we would not have the same worry.

131 posted on 12/01/2012 5:17:21 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Kansas58
Is there ANY law which states that all insurance MUST be purchased through an “exchange”?

You'll have to read the law, now that it's been passed...to know what's in the law. I have a feeling it says something about "evolving", somewhere in there.

132 posted on 12/01/2012 5:24:01 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: All

November 9, 2012 4:00 A.M.
Obamacare Is Still Vulnerable
Now is not the time to go wobbly.
By Michael F. Cannon

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333040/obamacare-still-vulnerable-michael-f-cannon


133 posted on 12/01/2012 5:25:48 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: CommieCutter

“Someone get some dirt on this bastard. Get him out.”

And just how do you propose getting it past his usefull idiot “media” whores?


134 posted on 12/01/2012 5:30:43 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: fatnotlazy

“which is doubtful at the moment”

Quite true....”third term” doesn’t come close.


135 posted on 12/01/2012 5:33:32 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: COBOL2Java

This quote by Jarrett needs to be sent to Drudge. People need to know who we are dealing with.


136 posted on 12/01/2012 5:38:41 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: combat_boots

Any day now, his new title will be president for life.


137 posted on 12/01/2012 6:28:19 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Olog-hai

http://www.facebook.com/notes/slap-bet/the-bill-of-slaps/100430433509

1. A slap bet is created when two parties involved in a disagreement, argument, or difference of opinion mutually agree that whichever party is proven right (or winning party) gets to slap whichever party is proven wrong (or losing party) across the face as hard as they possibly can.

2. In all Slap Bets, a Slap Bet Commissioner must be appointed. In the event of a discrepancy, the Slap Bet Commissioner makes the final ruling. The Slap Bet Commissioner must be someone fair and unbiased, someone kind hearted but not afraid to rule with an iron wrist.

.....

4. When issuing a slap, the slapper must not wear any rings, gloves, or other finger/hand ornaments to protect the safety of the slappee.

5. When issuing a slap, the slapper must keep one foot on the ground at all times to protect the safety of the slappee.

....

9. When the slappee gets slapped, he/she must accept the fact that they’ve just got slapped. Any retaliation against the slapper, by the slappee, will result in no less than ten slaps (with a set number to be delivered by the Slap Bet Commissioner.)
.


138 posted on 12/01/2012 6:33:34 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Olog-hai

Thank you, 0bama voters.


139 posted on 12/01/2012 6:45:55 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Olog-hai

Obama has zero negotiating skills. This is the kind of thing he does instead of negotiating.

Obama NEVER negotiates. The Republicans should take note and act accordingly.


140 posted on 12/01/2012 7:24:42 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: jivin gene

“...his usefull idiot “media” whores?”

Good point.
Perhaps citizens should “vet” their local talking heads and media people and out them for any and all “indescretions”.

We recently had a black, female local Fox5 “news” anchor who drove the wrong way down a street and was involved in an accident (alcohol)...haven’t heard or seen anything from her since it happened.

Wouldn’t it be great if citizens started “keeping an eye” on the personal lives of the whores who speak “news-speak” AND the owners of the stations?

Time to “attack” the media that is in the process of attacking us.


141 posted on 12/01/2012 8:40:49 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: chris_bdba

OPPPPSSSS let’s try that again “The Supreme court said that states could not be forced to do this and by adding a new tax to it they are infact trying to once again force states to comply.Back to the supreme court the states will have to go.”


142 posted on 12/01/2012 9:37:52 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: USCG SimTech

Even if they were to defund this, doesn’t it have to go through the Senate? Even more, through Obama himself? How are they going to succeed in this “defunding” process, if it has to go to the Senate, then to him?


143 posted on 12/02/2012 3:03:52 AM PST by dsutah
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To: Truth29
Barack Chavez speaks. Any Freeper attorneys available to say if there is a likely legal challenge?
144 posted on 12/02/2012 4:46:10 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: jivin gene; All

I have no idea. IT was just a rant that I didn’t expect to get this ridiculous quantity of responses.


145 posted on 12/02/2012 5:43:22 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: Olog-hai

Ha Ha Ha..... The onsize fits all is gone.

He can now be sued for discrimination.


146 posted on 12/02/2012 5:45:55 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Kansas58
Is there ANY law

Who needs laws when there are regulations.

147 posted on 12/02/2012 5:46:45 AM PST by kanawa
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To: CommieCutter

He should not be reinaugurated.


148 posted on 12/02/2012 5:46:58 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Olog-hai

So much for Equal Protection, the Privileges and Immunities clause, etc. Obama is in charge, and our Dear Leader must not be resisted!


149 posted on 12/02/2012 5:50:25 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: windsorknot

****** “Thank you, 0bama voters.” ******

Need to Thank all that didn’t Vote as well... they tag teamed the USA

TT


150 posted on 12/03/2012 11:09:40 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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