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It’s also time to address the psychoactive meds that plenty of these shooters have been on, in particular the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, SSRIs. This kid had Asperger's syndrome. Was he on them? Were his meds adjusted recently? You can go nuts with SSRIs either increasing or decreasing the dosage.
1 posted on 12/16/2012 6:52:19 PM PST by neverdem
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We need ‘Mental’-Free-Zones

or maybe more appropriately —’Meds’-Free-Zones

Big-Pharma has some explaining to do....


2 posted on 12/16/2012 6:57:33 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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When does it get blamed on AGW?


3 posted on 12/16/2012 7:00:40 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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Lott offers a final damning statistic: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

SHOUT IT!!! Everywhere.

10 posted on 12/16/2012 7:15:42 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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It is still morally offensive to me that only cops can carry guns to protect themselves.


11 posted on 12/16/2012 7:17:55 PM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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BTTT

Mass Killings Stopped by Armed Citizens

12 posted on 12/16/2012 7:18:20 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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As more facts trickle in regarding this latest school shooting, we are finding that it perhaps wasn’t quite as out-of-the-blue as the media would like to portray it. The kid had problems, the mom had lots of guns laying around evidently not properly secured, and there were incidents where she reportedly feared her own child. Yet just like the Zimmerman/Martin case, captain Zero needs to rush right in there with his pre-planned agenda that just needed “an incident” to put into motion.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 7:50:15 PM PST by SpaceBar
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There is an article posted here that says he was on Fanapt, a schizophrenia drug. I found it buried in the article and posted about it in the thread.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 7:52:02 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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It’s not the meds, it’s the illness. My son in law’s brother is schizophrenic and refuses to take his meds. He is threatening to kill his mother because she had the father removed from life support on Saturday. He died early this morning and now they are looking into having the brother involuntarily committed, but that just isn’t that easy to do, even though nurses and social workers have witnessed his behavior.

The doctors say that the brother’s schizophrenia is the result of heavy early drug use, mostly just marijuana. The man is 52 years old now, 17 years older than my son-in-law.


23 posted on 12/16/2012 10:27:41 PM PST by Eva
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ping


25 posted on 12/16/2012 10:42:25 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Excellent article, but I do challenge one of the research facts.

“With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

My first thought was the University of Texas clock tower massacre in 1966.

I have a vivid recollection of a dozen frat boys pouring suppression fire on Charles Whitman with their hunting rifles.

The death toll was 13 dead, 32 wounded, and probably would have been much worse if Whitman had the time to carefully select and aim at his targets.

26 posted on 12/16/2012 11:28:39 PM PST by zeestephen
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For later reading


29 posted on 12/16/2012 11:36:39 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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I’d like to know if the father gave a shit about this kid’s behavior.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 1:21:01 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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It’s also time to address the psychoactive meds that plenty of these shooters have been on, in particular the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, SSRIs. This kid had Asperger's syndrome. Was he on them? Were his meds adjusted recently? You can go nuts with SSRIs either increasing or decreasing the dosage.

SSRI's given to the wrong person can be as potent as LSD. It's not boogieman junk science it's stone cold fact. I've seen it happen to my wife. Her life was a living hell for 5 days. The doctors did not PDR the SSRI's for adverse reaction. That reaction has a clinical name of Serotonin Syndrome. I am also among the group of people who can not take antidepressants.

The media screams blood murder about Benzo class medications like Valium, Xanax, etc. I doubt there has been one mass shooter on Benzo's alone. Doctors use SSRI's to treat anxiety. The problem is anxiety can simply be a secondary condition caused by neurological damage. Unless a doctor does an extensive medical history such anxiety causing issues as Vestibular and Optical Sensory Processing Disorders can go undetected. SSRI's do two things to such patients. The bring on more anxiety by bombarding the damaged sensory processing system with more sensory impulses. Patients with these type of issues are more prone to Serotonin Syndrome.

If you mention the term Serotonin Syndrome to most doctors they will say whats that? I told my wifes doctor {house doctor not our own} she had it and showed him the alert written by HIS Hospitals Pharmacology Professor. He told me that it was pure rubbish at first till I said do you know the person who wrote it then? This was at a university hospital.

Six doctors and two shrinks did not know what they were seeing. Yet SSRI's are given out like candy even to teens. In the meantime the media goes bonkers after Benzo usage because some Hollywood Morons booze up and do Benzo's and end up dead. Well Duh!

My wifes used Xanax daily for 27 years and I have for over 17 years safely and effectivly. Proper dosage and consistent in blood stream dosage means everything. The fact she was taking Xanax while taking Zoloft likely saved her life as Benzo's are the protocol drugs used to stop Serotonin Syndrome. It takes weeks for antidepressants to leave the bloodstream just as it takes weeks to build up but at any point in that time and after Serotonin Migration from stomach to brain can occur. Benzo's bloodstream life where it can have any effect is 12 hours tops closer to 8.

I don't discount or scoff at the good antidepressants do for many patients. However the general widespread ignorance of the potential adverse reactions by those in the medical field even mental health is astounding and down right frightening.

My wife is a quadriplegic with fair use of her arms and hands. She thrashed and literally beat herself black and blue while it happened. Even after taking her off all Meds and having her return too normal mental state and then again giving her Zoloft and it started up again in an hours time they still didn't catch on.

33 posted on 12/17/2012 2:41:48 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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Another contributor to the high body counts is the insane policy of school lockdowns.

Lockdowns are reasonable if the threat is outside the building and the chance of entering using force is minimal.

However, once inside the building, a lockdown just creates a barrel full of fish waiting to be executed.

We have seen this over and over and over again, but school security does not change lockdowns to escape.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 4:13:20 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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Another contributor to the high body counts is the insane policy of school lockdowns.

Lockdowns are reasonable if the threat is outside the building and the chance of entering using force is minimal.

However, once inside the building, a lockdown just creates a barrel full of fish waiting to be executed.

We have seen this over and over and over again, but school security does not change lockdowns to escape.


37 posted on 12/17/2012 4:13:44 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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The Facts about Mass Shootings - It’s time to address mental health and gun-free zones.

OH?





Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

39 posted on 12/17/2012 4:35:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I think the media and its 24-7 coverage of such things gives potential mass murderers that they will achieve some sort of sick fame as a result of their actions. Time for the media to quit the 24-7 breast-beating coverage.


40 posted on 12/17/2012 4:59:14 AM PST by NRA1995 (CNN should be PNN (Propaganda, Never News))
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"...the mental-health issue. A lengthy study by Mother Jones magazine found that at least 38 of the 61 mass shooters in the past three decades “displayed signs of mental health problems prior to the killings.” New York Times columnist David Brooks and Cornell Law School professor William Jacobsen have both suggested that the ACLU-inspired laws that make it so difficult to intervene and identify potentially dangerous people should be loosened."

Exactly.

48 posted on 12/17/2012 8:53:21 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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A lot more innocent people and Muslims are killed on a daily basis in the two Muslim paradises we created. But the murders are shrugged off as "Muslims being Muslims". It is also understood that the murderers (usually suicide bombers) are directed by terrorist "masterminds" (like the one who directed 9/11). There is no hand wringing about the "cause" being violent movies, drugs or the easy availability of explosives.

The Muslims perfected the technology of directing weak minded young men to commit political murder 1000 years ago (they invented the term "assassins"); there is increasing evidence that this technology has been brought to the USA. No doubt it is just a coincidence that the massacres serve the political interest of the Muslim-raised occupant of the White House. No doubt it is also a coincidence that the White House occupant was involved in the murderous "Fast and Furious" plot to frame American gun dealers.

The first question that should be asked in investigating the massacre is "who benefits?". Not even the savages of the Middle East are stupid enough to blame inanimate objects.
51 posted on 12/17/2012 11:06:40 AM PST by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy)
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Better yet, address the overuse of botox by politicians ~ particular Democrat politicians ~ this stuff will numb an area in the middle of your eyebrow ridge and make it impossible for you to understand the emotional state of others.

Remember when Nancy Pelosi told us everyone must be happy with Obamakkkare because, alas, she didn't see anybody who was unhappy. That was the botox talking.

I think it extends to the school/theatre/church/shopping center shooting situation ~ the big dog Democrat politicans fail to see the real emotions on the face of the people and imagine it's time to trot out the old failed policies of the hoary past.

Here's to Dick Durbin ~ I AM UNHAPPY DICK ~ give up the botox and we'll talk!

52 posted on 12/17/2012 11:10:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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