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THE AR-15: THE GUN LIBERALS LOVE TO HATE
Human Events ^ | 1/2/2013 | David Keene

Posted on 01/02/2013 3:29:20 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 01/02/2013 3:29:34 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Thank God I sold all my ARs to some guy in a bar.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 3:34:26 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

I sold mine to some Mexicans. (Just doing what my government does). They said they didn’t need a receipt.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 3:36:29 PM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: neverdem

I never much cared for them, prefer an M1 or M14.


4 posted on 01/02/2013 3:39:29 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: clintonh8r

LOL

That’s funny in any language.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 3:44:06 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: neverdem

The .223 is kind of an underpowered cartridge.


6 posted on 01/02/2013 3:44:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: neverdem
The standard AR is illegal in most states for deer and big game hunting because it is not considered powerful enough

Is that true, really? Seemed to be rather powerful in Sandy Hook. Would certainly depend on caliber and grain.

7 posted on 01/02/2013 3:45:13 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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I don’t think any state allows a .223 for deer.

You can use them for coyote, hogs and varmints though.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 3:52:37 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: TigersEye

Here is an interesting article about the 5.56.
Not as underpowered as some think.

http://www.futurefirepower.com/myths-about-the-nato-556-cartridge


9 posted on 01/02/2013 3:55:59 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I’m thinking it is the small diameter of the projectile rather than the force behind it that is the problem?


10 posted on 01/02/2013 3:56:07 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: TigersEye

That is why I stick to the 5.56mm and assault clips. Way more powerful.


11 posted on 01/02/2013 4:00:59 PM PST by eartick
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To: steve86

Mainly it’s the weight of the bullet. Heavier bullets are better, but there’s only so much you can do in a small caliber.


12 posted on 01/02/2013 4:04:54 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I don’t think any state allows a .223 for deer.

.30 caliber minimum in this state for big game. I tend toward the .45-70. That solves most problems, including unwanted motor vehicles.

13 posted on 01/02/2013 4:05:33 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: steve86

Exactly correct. It will pass through any part of a deer but a .22 cal doesn’t make a very big hole.


14 posted on 01/02/2013 4:07:13 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: steve86

Normal 223 ammo uses a 55-grain bullet. They make 80-grain bullets for it but the rifle needs a faster twist barrel to stabilize it so as to have it shoot accurately, one in eight at least. M16 upper receivers with 1:8 twist barrels aren’t that had to come up with or at least they weren’t prior to a couple of months ago...


15 posted on 01/02/2013 4:07:52 PM PST by varmintman
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To: neverdem

I’m partial to my Mini-14, but I wouldn’t kick an AR out of the gun safe.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 4:08:29 PM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: neverdem


M4 carbine. Inscribed with "Molon Labe"
17 posted on 01/02/2013 4:08:57 PM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: 3Fingas

Interesting article. Thanks for the link.


18 posted on 01/02/2013 4:09:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

You don’t use the full metal jacket ammo for hunting, you use a ballistic or soft point bullet which expands to two or three times it’s original diameter.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 4:10:35 PM PST by varmintman
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"I don’t think any state allows a .223 for deer."

In Pennsylvania, the only requirement for deer and black bear in regular firearms season is that it is a centerfire round with a projectile designed to expand (i.e. no FMJ). If so inclined, you could use a .17 Remington for black bear. Muzzle loading long guns must be a minimum of .44 and muzzle loading handguns must be at least .50.

There is limited hunting of the PA elk herd, and IIRC, there is a .270/130gr. minimum for them.

20 posted on 01/02/2013 4:11:23 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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