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France begins ground offensive in Mali
The Hindu ^ | 16 January 2013 | Aman Sethi

Posted on 01/16/2013 7:28:53 PM PST by BlackVeil

A week after French aircraft rushed to the aid of a defeated and demoralised Malian army, French ground forces have begun fighting alongside the Malian army in Diabaly, a town 350 km north of capital Bamako.

Since last year, northern Mali has been overrun by Islamist rebels organised under the banners of the Ansar Dine, the Movement for Jihad in West Africa (MUJAO) and al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM).

Last Friday, France sent in jets, helicopter gunships, and special forces to Central Mali as Islamist rebels advanced till 50 km from a major military base in Sevare, and captured the town of Konna. Since then, France has deployed 2,500 troops in its former colony and bombed targets as far north as Gao and Timbuktu, even as analysts warned of a prolonged and difficult mission. The Economic Community of West African States (Ecowas) has promised about 3,000 troops, expected to arrive by the weekend.

The fighting has proved hard, and progress slow. Over the weekend, the rebels opened a second front in Diabaly ...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehindu.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; algeria; alqaeda; ansardine; aqim; ecowas; france; gao; konna; mali; mujao; religionofpieces; sahel; sevare; timbuktu; waronterror; westafrica
France has called for African troops, but for some reason is advancing before they arrive. This is gloomy and complicated.
1 posted on 01/16/2013 7:29:00 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

What interests does France have there? Ivory? Chocolate? I seriously don’t know much about this.

Isn’t their own Homeland pretty much run over with Islamists these days? Why not fight them on their own turf?


2 posted on 01/16/2013 7:33:39 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

3 posted on 01/16/2013 7:37:22 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What if WE had invaded Mali?

International outrage!

The French?

*crickets*


4 posted on 01/16/2013 7:44:11 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: BlackVeil

Go, Frogs!

Allons enfants de la patrie; see what you can do, having had no practice to speak of. Should be a piece of let them eat cake.


5 posted on 01/16/2013 7:44:28 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: BlackVeil
"...northern Mali has been overrun by Islamist rebels organised under the banners of the Ansar Dine, the Movement for Jihad in West Africa (MUJAO) and al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)."

So the French Army is fighting Muslims in Mali... I hope they get lots of practice so they can go home and slaughter the Mohammedan scum that invaded France. The backlash will start in France.

6 posted on 01/16/2013 7:49:19 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: BlackVeil

Did each French soldier receive their government-issued surrender flag?


7 posted on 01/16/2013 7:53:31 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Gold
Third largest producer in Africa.
Also possibly large reserves.


8 posted on 01/16/2013 7:57:57 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

Stopping Islam is what matters.


9 posted on 01/16/2013 7:59:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
What interests does France have there? Ivory? Chocolate?

Try oil and uranium for starters.

10 posted on 01/16/2013 8:02:38 PM PST by stboz
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To: BlackVeil
This is gloomy and complicated.

I hope this doesn't end up like Dien Bien Phu, and us stepping in to finish the job; as we did in Viet Nam. -Tom

11 posted on 01/16/2013 8:17:06 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The French just now started looking for Dirk Pitt, Al Giordino and Rudi Gunn?


12 posted on 01/16/2013 8:22:00 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: BlackVeil

Gee, I wonder if they packed enough white surrender flags that they’re famous for using when the going gets tough?

What if there’s no quiche & wine available?


13 posted on 01/16/2013 8:33:31 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: BlackVeil

How long before stuff starts getting blown up in Paris?


14 posted on 01/16/2013 8:37:53 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: BenLurkin; buwaya
Stopping Islam is what matters.

France enabled an Islamic fundamentalist take over of Libya, and is also funding the al-Qaida linked rebels in Syria. So their interests are ... gloomy and complicated.

15 posted on 01/16/2013 8:38:27 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BenLurkin

Then lets hope that is indeed their motive.


16 posted on 01/16/2013 8:39:21 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: BlackVeil
I read once that one wag opined that the French had only won one of its many, many wars.

And that was the French Revolution (in which it fought itself.)

.

17 posted on 01/16/2013 8:43:57 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

All joking aside, their Foreign Legion is not noted for surrendering.


18 posted on 01/16/2013 8:43:57 PM PST by Argus
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They aren’t very terribly consistent in choosing to fight for or against the Muzzies are they?


19 posted on 01/16/2013 8:56:05 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Capt. Tom

I doubt it but once the African Union troops arrive they will petition for this to become a UN operation, meaning the US pays for 23% or so of the costs


20 posted on 01/16/2013 8:57:40 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: BlackVeil
Hear, hear to the French winning one.

I can wish, can't I?

5.56mm

21 posted on 01/16/2013 9:00:19 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: GeronL
meaning the US pays for 23% or so of the costs

Why do I feel that might end up being 230% of the costs?

When glooming about this, I had forgotten the finance aspect. But now you remind me ...

22 posted on 01/16/2013 9:04:33 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I am not french, but at least they are out there putting up a scrap. I wish we’d do that here in north america and stop letting the left walk all over us.


23 posted on 01/16/2013 9:05:58 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: BlackVeil

France? Offensive?

Pardon moi! Did someone spit into a souffle?


24 posted on 01/16/2013 9:29:05 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Hilarious! All kidding aside this action caused the hostage situation in Algiers. I know people are picking on the French but it is nice that we are getting help from allies in going after extremism. 4 African countries are sending troops as well. Algiers allowed air space to be used which is being used as an excuse to take hostages.

Majority of hostages are Dutch. Heard 3 US citizens. I do not know who will be on point but I would expect an assault in a couple of weeks without a resolution.

By the way book is so much better than the movie!


25 posted on 01/16/2013 9:45:23 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: Winstons Julia

As I read the article, the French went in to the aid of the Mali Army and is fighting alongside it. Thus, one assumes, they were invited in to help the government forces against the rebels. That’s not an invasion.


26 posted on 01/16/2013 9:53:50 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: chopperjc

Vive La France! In spite of that idiot, Hollande.


27 posted on 01/16/2013 9:55:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: EDINVA

Ah, this is the first time I had heard it.

I wonder why Mali wanted the French?


28 posted on 01/16/2013 9:57:49 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Mali was a French colony until IIRC @ 1960 or so. So likely one of the French Speaking, probably Catholic-leaning countries in Africa that’s not happy with the Muslim rebels. It’s one thing to have them in Paris or Marseille, but Bamako?


29 posted on 01/16/2013 10:00:58 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

I know, right?

I still don’t get it.


30 posted on 01/16/2013 10:37:09 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

>>>What interests does France have there?

A welcome distraction from the constant bad news of their failed socialist economic policies.


31 posted on 01/16/2013 11:34:42 PM PST by GoodDay
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Their interests there probably are related to Pakistani nuclear scientist A Q Khan’s interest there.


32 posted on 01/17/2013 12:16:39 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Capt. Tom

I think this will be like the French war in Algeria....they will torture everyone they can, destroy all possible coalition movements and then bug out when the French Gubermint loses it’s nerve, has another scandal and/or turns over leadership to another scum bucket.


33 posted on 01/17/2013 4:28:40 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Um. These are not regular continental troops. They are French Foreign Legion. Very tough hombres and their rules of engagement are very loose indeed. Watch the body count from this point on; going to be a lot of dead muzzies soon.


34 posted on 01/17/2013 11:28:29 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

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35 posted on 01/17/2013 11:36:34 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Capt. Tom
I hope this doesn't end up like Dien Bien Phu, and us stepping in to finish the job; as we did in Viet Nam. -Tom

I observe that the entire country of Viet Nam is communist. I further observe that when, in 1975, North Viet Nam invaded South Viet Nam, the United States ...

Hmmm ... what was it that we did, again???

Oh, yes ... we abandoned and betrayed our allies ...

An act for which I will NEVER forgive the demonicRat Party.

36 posted on 01/17/2013 11:39:35 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Hmmm ... what was it that we did, again???
Oh, yes ... we abandoned and betrayed our allies ...
An act for which I will NEVER forgive the demonicRat Party.

WE have to guard against any more of these quagmires, especially now that we have rules of engagement that handicap our forces. We now have Generals who will implement these PC rules of engagement to the detriment of our fighting soldiers. - Tom

37 posted on 01/17/2013 1:01:20 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: BlackVeil; a fool in paradise

The oughta mail Mali males!


38 posted on 01/17/2013 1:03:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Capt. Tom
WE have to guard against any more of these quagmires,

I agree with that ... One can argue that we had a compelling interest in Viet Nam. Indeed, I have made that argument. Much of the politics involved, however, was dreadful.

I don't see a compelling interest in Mali; and even if we did have one, fighting a war without fighting to WIN is morally reprehensible. IMO. The current ROE, under the current feckless, antiAmerican, demonicRat regime is certainly NOT fighting to win.

39 posted on 01/17/2013 1:12:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

I look forward to their success!


40 posted on 01/17/2013 8:37:57 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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