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Criminal charges weighed in Newtown deaths (sandy hook massacre)
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Posted on 01/25/2013 9:12:50 AM PST by RummyChick

HARTFORD -- The prosecutor investigating the Newtown school massacre told a new panel Thursday not to expect a final report on the Dec. 14 slaughter anytime soon.

Danbury State's Attorney Stephen J. Sedensky III announced that while no criminal prosecution seems likely to emerge from the mass murder and suicide, he wants to suppress much of the evidence from the public anyway.

"This is an ongoing criminal investigation, for which I have obtained extensions of time from the Superior Court to keep documents sealed, so that the investigation may continue unencumbered by distractions," Sedensky said.

"The rules of professional responsibility for prosecutors require that I take steps to prevent publicity that would have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing a potential prosecution," he said.

In a brief appearance before Gov. Dannel P. Malloy's 16-member Sandy Hook Advisory Commission, Sedensky said that he expects the State Police report on the shootings to be several months away.

"Of course, if the investigation reveals that there should be a criminal prosecution, then that prosecution would take precedence over any report," Sedensky told the panel of municipal officials, mental health experts, security professionals and social-service providers.

"Though no such prosecution currently appears on the horizon, I am sure you can appreciate that all leads need to be investigated and evidence examined before final decisions and statements are made," he said.

He offered to meet privately with a representative of the advisory panel to provide information that he might not release to the public.

Sedensky said that during the first week after the shootings, federal, state and local police worked around the clock investigating the crime scenes at Sandy Hook Elementary School, at the 36 Yogananda St. home of Nancy Lanza, whose son Adam, 20, murdered her before driving her car to the school, and elsewhere.

It will be months before a report is released.

"We are hoping for some time this summer, perhaps in June," said Sedensky, a Newtown resident, adding that details on the mental health of Adam Lanza, are protected from disclosure under privacy regulations and might not be able to be provided to the commission.

Bill Ritter, the former governor of Colorado whose district attorney of Denver investigated the aftermath of the 1999 shootings at Columbine High School in Littleton, told the panel the nation is watching.

"You could wind up saving lives at some point in the future," said Ritter, who later became governor and became a target for a deranged gunman who was shot and killed by a state trooper outside his office. "Healing can happen" but it can be a long-term process.

Richard Bonnie, a professor at the University of Virginia School of Law who was an adviser to the Virginia Tech Review Panel following that 2007 shooting, warned that legislation and regulatory changes can be affected by emotions.

"Tragedy can compromise thoughtful policy making," he said from Virginia.

Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, in the panel's first meeting Thursday morning, said that the consequence that seems to be separating Newtown from other mass shootings is that momentum for a positive outcome to the crime seems to be gaining every day, not fading.

"We must take a serious look at public safety, particularly school safety, so our children can grow up and go to school without the fear of violence in a culture that does in fact glorify violence," Malloy said.

"We need to have a discussion about stopping that," Malloy said. "The recommendations you will craft over the coming weeks and months will no doubt take us toward that goal: better mental health, better safety in our schools and a system that is set up to stop the glorification of the violence."

Later in the afternoon, after Sedensky's testimony, Malloy, a former prosecutor, was asked by reporters about the reticence to release more details of the shooting.

"I think there's always this situation where a prosecutor is trying to make the right balance," Malloy said.

"This was an attack so outrageous, in the killing of 20 six-year-olds that in many ways it's going to have an imprint, the likes of which I can remember where I was, in the classroom, when someone came in to say President Kennedy was shot," Malloy said. "I think this is that kind of event. So I think he needs to take the time necessary to conclude the investigation. Having said that, I would hope that as little time is necessary. It's more important to get it right than to rush out a report."

On Friday morning, a legislative subcommittee looking into issues of school security after the Sandy Hook shootings will hold a public hearing starting at 9:30 a.m. in Room 2-C of the Legislative Office Building in Hartford.


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To: Jay Redhawk
I think it unlikely that the police would leave a loaded shotgun in an unsecured area even if it was in the trunk of a car.

Depends upon what police procedure in that situation is.

Were they supposed to post an armed guard over the shotgun???

Were they supposed to carry it with them into the school -- another weapon in the school for the perp[s] in there to get their hands on possible???

And that car was part of the crime scene at that point and the fingerprints on that weapon might have been important.

So why take it with you into a live shooting zone??

I'm sure it was the subject of the following police department meeting.

221 posted on 01/26/2013 10:51:24 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MD Expat in PA
In the past year, the city has seen an upswing in incidents involving occult activity, Myers said, noting numerous times he's gone to city homes and noticed symbolism related to Voodoo and Santeria, a Caribbean religion that combines elements of West African Yoruba and Roman Catholicism. Last June, officers found a human skull, a beheaded chicken, chickens' blood and other animal parts in a Madison Avenue basement during a drug raid. The next month, there were two human skulls in a circular blanket of loose dirt and bloody papers with names on them at Mountain Grove Cemetery. And just days later, the body of a 2-year-old girl stolen from her Stamford grave showed up in a New Jersey river with chicken bones nearby.

Does robbing graves of young children count? Is that Santeria or something else?

maybe not hotbed, but it certainly has a following there of some kind Hopefully a very small following.

Official notice that I don't agree that the hand stuff is meaningful at all, just fyi.

However it was reported that Adam Lanza had some satanic like boasts on his facebook page, was that it? Something like that....

222 posted on 01/26/2013 10:57:56 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Iscool
Just because the inquisitioner can't or says he can't find any pictures or videos of kids evacuating doesn't mean that there wasn't an evacuation.

Remember Mike Powers and his denial of the broken glass window. What a moron he has made of people.

223 posted on 01/26/2013 11:01:04 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Well it is hard to say, but like I mentioned earlier there has been a real effort to cloud the facts and create uncertainty. While the incompetence of the media may explain much of the confusion, I also believe that the Justice Department was behind the scene within a few hours trying to spin the story. Of course, I have no proof of that, but this administration has expressed its attitude in the past: “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” Behind the scene this criminal government is still smiling while dancing in the blood of these children, and giving praise to their good fortune.


224 posted on 01/26/2013 11:08:27 PM PST by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: Jay Redhawk

“and giving praise to their good fortune.”

I mean the Obama thugocracy’s good fortune.


225 posted on 01/26/2013 11:14:10 PM PST by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: MD Expat in PA
Just to be even more clear, anyone seeing a psychiatrist is on drugs. If mom was preparing to put Adam into institutional care, I bet they saw a psychiatrist, and he was put on at least one drug if not several. Last chance trials.

That said, I still think there are a lot of weird things about this and do not trust our current dear leader one bit.

226 posted on 01/26/2013 11:32:30 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Uncle Chip

I don’t understand why you continue to make the cops out in the area to be idiots.

Really, it is mindboggling to me that you keep trying to play up this scenario.

Just assume for a minute that what you say is true.

YOU DON”T TAKE LARGE BLACK CLOTHS THAT APPEAR TO BE CLERGY OUTFITS AND THROW THEM OVER THE DOOR TO THE FRONT OF A CAR.

What is wrong with you.

Do you know nothing about crime scenes?

What evidence would be totally destroyed by doing that? Not to mention you tainted the crime scene.

You leave them where they are and bag them.

What could have REALLY happened.

It’s possible they popped the trunk to insure that there was no child in side. I think a court would allow that.

Let’s say they find a pile of large black clothing objects. It is possible that they could lift them gently to make sure there is no perp or hostage underneath.

YOU DONT THROW THEM OUT OF THE CAR ONTO THE PAVEMENT.

If what you say is true those cops are bungling idiots.


227 posted on 01/27/2013 6:18:48 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

YOU DON”T TAKE LARGE BLACK CLOTHS THAT APPEAR TO BE CLERGY OUTFITS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbd6qRY358

They were black sweatshirts and the scene she described matches the picture you posted at #187, the videos of the busted plate glass window, and the final shots at 9:46 in the school per the police dispatch, the accounts of the kids at Gene Rosen’s house, the pictures of the kids being evacuated in single lines. ....

What you have to say matches nothing not even the picture you posted.


228 posted on 01/27/2013 6:37:40 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
You don't know what those are.
And let me say AGAIN
The shooter is STILL shooting.
The cops are IDIOTS if they took black clothing from the car and threw it to the front of the car. You don't do that with evidence in a crime scene.


229 posted on 01/27/2013 7:03:10 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
You don't do that with evidence in a crime scene.

Okay then throw the evidence out of court.

Next --

230 posted on 01/27/2013 10:18:53 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Here is the question people should be really thinking about

Why does Uncle Chip keep trying to pretend that those are sweatshirts thrown out of the car over the door by the police - which if true would indicate that the cops are bumbling fools and don’t know how to treat a crime scene.


231 posted on 01/27/2013 2:07:25 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

If you don’t like me identifying them as black sweatshirts, you can always pretend that they’re dead crows.


232 posted on 01/27/2013 3:14:37 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: RummyChick
Mea Culpa. You are correct and I stand corrected in that Adam Lanza did attend St. Rose of Lima and he and his mother attended that parish church, although it doesn’t appear that they attended with great regularly or were deeply involved in the church. And yes, John J. Castaldo was at St. Rose of Lima between 1998 and 2000, which would have been when Adam Lanza would have been between 6 to 8 years old. What is still not clear is during what years Adam attended the St. Rose of Lima school; he started out at Sandy Hook Elementary, went to St. Rose of Lima for a time, attended the Reed intermediary school for a time, was home schooled for a time, attended the Sandy Hook HS for a time but at sometime withdrew, attended college classes and received a GED.

But if you look at John J. Castaldo’s M.O. (and yes, Castaldo was indeed deeply disturbed and depraved and without question, should have never been ordained in the first place) but it would also seem that a child of between 6-8 years old as Adam would have been when Castaldo was at St. Rose of Lima in Newtown CT., would be a little too young for his “tastes”. If you look at the M.O. of most pedophiles; Catholic Priests, Protestant Ministers, athletic coaches, Boy Scout leaders, Jerry Sandusky, John J. Castaldo , et all, you will see that the pattern is that they tend to single out pre-pubescent boys, boys around the ages of 12-14, not typically 6-8 year olds. That is not to say that it is beyond the realm of possibility but that absent any proof, it’s just rumor and innuendo, a connection of the dots of coincidence where the dots do not necessarily connect at all except for the conspiracy minded.

http://www.bishopaccountability.org/assign/Castaldo_John_J.htm

But the fact that Adam attended St. Rose of Lima at any time and the fact that there was a pedophile priest at that school and parish while Adam might have been enrolled there is not in and of its self proof positive that Adam had been molested by Castaldo or anyone else, nor it is proof of any motivation of his crime or motive. If Adam had been molested during his time at St. Rose of Lima, it would make more sense for him to carry out his rage against that school and not Sandy Hook Elementary would it not?

Assume that Lanza was molested by the Priest. Assume he was told that his parents knew and approved.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2980816/posts?page=52#52

Wow. That’s a whole lot of “assumption” on your part, some rather libelous assumptions IMO. And much like your false assumption and accusations that Adam Lanza’s father and James Holmes’ father were to testify in the LIBOR scandal – which they weren’t.

Again, when I try to piece together all the various conspiracies you and others have posted here, I come up with something like; the Government conspired with the Vatican, going back to at least 1987 when Reagan was President, to place a pedophile priest(s) in Newtown to molest a child who hadn’t even been born yet, while also overtime and without anyone noticing, moving out all the long time residents and replacing them with paid “crisis actors” who were also secret Satanists who while living in secret, also for some reason liked to have their pictures taken while making the “Devil Horns” sign, including a three year old who may or may not be in reality her older sister Emile Parker and may have not been innocently sucking on her fingers but giving the “Devil Horns” sign, who was not really killed at Sandy Hook but is in hiding somewhere much like the Balloon Boy, perhaps hiding in an attic somewhere, her parents faking their grief and all the LEO’s, all the teachers, other parents, all the children at that school and the morticians also all being in on it, and that all those people who are faking it, were put in place many years ago to prevent a person, Adam Lanza’s father along with the father of a totally unconnected nut job on CO¸ neither fathers being even remotely involved in the LIBOR scandal, a scandal that wasn’t even a scandal when this plan would have been put into motion, to be intimidated into not testifying about something they were not involved in and knew nothing about , that Adam Lanza’s parents, who where both registered Republicans BTW, were complicit with this plan and approved and condoned of their son’s molestation by a pedophile priest well over ten years ago knowing full well that this would drive their son to commit an act of mass murder in the future while Barak Obama was POTUS, that Adam Lanza’s mother was possibly seeking psychiatric help and commitment for her increasingly sick and disturbed son proves he was subject to mind control drugs ala UltraMK something, something and this, was in fact all part of a much bigger plan to take away your 2nd Amendment Rights involving thousands of people, paid actors and Satanists, government plants, CIA agents, all acting in perfect consort for over the last 20 years.

Of course the simpler and much more plausible explanation is that Adam Lanza was a deeply disturbed mentally ill person who just like James Holmes, didn’t get the help he needed and committed to a psychiatric lock down unit until it was too late, anomalies for sure, abet very dangerous ones, and that this Administration, the gun grabbers following the Saul Alinsky school of “Let no good crisis go to waste” are taking advantage of a very tragic but in reality quite uncommon event to push peoples emotional buttons to further their goal of gun control. It doesn’t take a vast and highly complicated conspiracy involving hundreds of people to achieve these goals, just a few sick people, a hyperventilating MSM and wako conspiracy theorists like you, who whether you know it or not are giving ammunition to paint conservatives and responsible gun owners as deeply deluded conspiracy minded nut cases.

233 posted on 01/27/2013 3:36:47 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

“Wow. That’s a whole lot of “assumption” on your part, some rather libelous assumptions IMO. And much like your false assumption and accusations that Adam Lanza’s father and James Holmes’ father were to testify in the LIBOR scandal – which they weren’t. “

I stopped RIGHT THERE.

You are AGAIN not doing adequate research.

Every time that I saw someone post about the father of Holmes testifying before Congress on Libor I brought up the fact that the rumor was started by Sorcha Faal.

It is unclear the motives behind Faal but one could be that he is a disinformation specialist.

Can’t bother to read the rest of your post because you don’t do enough research.


234 posted on 01/27/2013 4:18:56 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: MD Expat in PA

Oh and one more thing.

Pay attention and try to read better

I said ASSUME those things about Lanza for the purpose of finding an explanation.

ONE POSSIBLE EXPLANATION.

AMONG MANY

Lanza may have been molested.

He has the signs of it.

There was opportunity. I doubt that Priest stopped molesting boys.

But maybe he wasn’t molested.

But for the SAKE OF ARGUMENT, IF HE WAS, I gave a reason he could have done what he did.


235 posted on 01/27/2013 4:23:32 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: MarMema
However it was reported that Adam Lanza had some satanic like boasts on his facebook page, was that it? Something like that....

FWIW, Adam Lanza didn’t have a FB page. The only source for his supposed Satanic website comes from one kid who claims to have been a former classmate and claims to have seen it but absent this one person’s unsubstantiated claim, the fact is that no one else has ever validated his claim or ever seen it – this supposed website dedicated to Satan, and there is no evidence exists that Adam Lanza was or ever was a Satanist.

Your link goes to a story out of Bridgeport CT, not Newtown CT BTW.

“The matter is still under investigation and no charges have been filed, said Sgt. James Myers, who is also a paranormal investigator.

Yea, a paranormal investigator….well there is a completely reliable source. /s

http://www.ctsoulseekers.com/826_Paranormal.html

:(

Read up on the rantings of Sgt. James Myers. I'm glad I don't live in Bridgepoint CT where they would let this guy not only have a gun but be a police sergeant.

Is that to say that there are no practioners of Santeria in CT? No. Is this to say that Newtown is a hotbed of Santeria practitioners or Satanists and some other rather strange and creepy folks? No. Does this have anything to do with Adam Lanza and his actions? No. If you have any direct evidence to the contrary other than that of a self described “paranormal investigator” , please post it. If you have a link to Adam Lanza's Satanic website or his Satanic FB page, please post it.

236 posted on 01/27/2013 4:25:55 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Uncle Chip

How about you stop trying to make the cops out to be bungling idiots by tossing evidence out a car door to the front of the vehicle.

Yeah, I know that isn’t your purpose .

You are trying to do something else.

But the end result is that your claim makes them crime scene bumbling fools.


237 posted on 01/27/2013 4:27:09 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: MD Expat in PA; RummyChick

That’s pretty much it, MD, in a nutshell.


238 posted on 01/27/2013 4:28:59 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MD Expat in PA

Again, you are not doing adequate research

http://newtown.patch.com/articles/out-of-the-broom-closet-witches-talk-history

http://witches.meetup.com/cities/us/ct/newtown/

There’s more out there.


239 posted on 01/27/2013 4:31:57 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Oh and for those that don’t know how to do research

A Hedgewitch in the area is a good friend of one of the people you see talking on videos about what was seen the day of the shooting.


240 posted on 01/27/2013 4:38:05 PM PST by RummyChick
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