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GOP Moves to Scrap Winner-Take-All Voting
Newser ^ | Jan 25, 2013 | Mark Russell

Posted on 01/26/2013 11:45:40 AM PST by Baynative

Republicans in swing states that went for President Obama are pushing for a big change in how the Electoral College works, reports the Washington Post. The idea is to apportion electoral votes according to congressional district, instead of the winner-take-all system that most states employ. In Virginia, for example, the difference would be dramatic—Obama would have taken only four of the state's 13 electoral votes in 2012.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas; US: Maine; US: Pennsylvania; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: badidea; elections; electoralcollege; gop; winnertakeall
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To: Fledermaus

Dave Leip’s site has the map you’re looking for, but I can’t find it on short notice.

Plenty of state breakdowns too.

http://uselectionatlas.org/

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=137677.0


81 posted on 01/26/2013 4:14:13 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: cripplecreek

These are House races? Looks like NH is lost!

We need it for presidential election results too but I’d bet it’s very similar.

Thanks


82 posted on 01/26/2013 4:17:02 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: Fledermaus

I know Michigan is slipping away from the democrats slowly but surely. The right to work law is probably the most devastating thing to happen to democrats in Michigan in the past century. The unions provided some $250 million in democrat campaign funding.


83 posted on 01/26/2013 4:43:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: G Larry

“Actually, it’s the WORST thing Republicans could do.”

Come back to us G Larry, and offer proof on how this is the WORST thing. We’re not brainless liberals, and we need more than your emotional claim that this is the WORST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


84 posted on 01/26/2013 4:43:57 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: sergeantdave

LOL I don’t care if its the worst thing or not, I’m gonna support it in my state. Everybody else is free to do the same or not in their states.


85 posted on 01/26/2013 4:47:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

“Looks like giving control to the cities, to me.”

Duh! Which party do you think controls liberal cities?


86 posted on 01/26/2013 4:47:17 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: sergeantdave

I’m aware.

Why is the GOP advocating it, speaking of “duh?”


87 posted on 01/26/2013 4:50:46 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Well, let’s calculate how many electoral votes Buckwheat would win in California with district apportionment rather than winner take all. I would guess that it would be less than 54.


88 posted on 01/26/2013 5:04:01 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Baynative

each state can do this on their own, I think it’s a good idea, really. This would make the Presidency a real representative of the people no matter which way it went.


89 posted on 01/26/2013 5:06:33 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: sergeantdave

Do the same with Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Georgia and Virginia while you’re at it. There will be additional EV’s freed up for Democrats. Democrats have advocated such a move for years. It will have the effect of giving control over to large population centers, ie cities. This is something the Founders feared. Look at the Senate not just the Electoral College.


90 posted on 01/26/2013 5:10:48 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Sorry, I’m not following your logic.

Detroit, for example, delivers all of Michigan’s EVs to the rats. Milwaukee delivers all of Wisconsin’s EVs to the rats.

LA delivers a ton of votes to obuma, but if we counted up congressional districts, Buckwheat would not take the entire EV total in California.

Explain yourself.


91 posted on 01/26/2013 5:22:43 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: sergeantdave

Apply the same scheme to overall conservative states or “purple” leaners. You will not take all of Texas. Or Georgia. Or any of the others. It will free up EV’s for Democrats in conservative states. You’ll effectively be giving control over to population density, across the board. This as you note favors Democrats, and they are aware of this, having favored it for years.


92 posted on 01/26/2013 5:33:44 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: re_nortex

i agree. county by county. the one with the most counties wins the state. no more cess pools like detroit over riding the entire states wishes.


93 posted on 01/26/2013 5:42:18 PM PST by annelizly
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Why does any state allow the populace to vote for the EC representatives? Remember the state legislatures are made up of politicians and if the people start making enough noise they’ll make all kinds of changes just to protect their jobs.

The reason to fix is is that winner take all is a bad system. Just look at the CD or district maps from the last 4 elections and you can see the problem, states are almost entirely red yet because of the large population in the blue pockets the state went blue. The entire point of the EC is to keep the large population centers from dictating to the lower population centers who will be president. There’s no reason not to lower the level of granularity.


94 posted on 01/26/2013 5:45:42 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: cripplecreek

article 2section1.....specific on how the vote is taken not on how an elector is chosen.

I don’t care how a state decides to select electors. I do care that the silly notion of proportional distribution should somehow exist be quashed. That leads inevitably to election by popular vote which I am not interested in at all. I do not want Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angles, Seattle, San Francisco, and New York City deciding our elections


95 posted on 01/26/2013 6:05:32 PM PST by Nifster
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To: RegulatorCountry

Your post is making me reconsider my position, but I’m convinced yet.

We need to consider rat voter fraud and work that into the equation. Once states start arresting rat voters for fraud, that changes everything.

There are many variables to consider and many not favorable for the nazi rats.


96 posted on 01/26/2013 6:20:38 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: kabar

I just looked at your voting map there in Virginia and it looks like it would work for you there.


97 posted on 01/26/2013 6:50:38 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Redmen4ever

since the states control re-districting.

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True to a degree but don’t forget that the VRA put nine states under the feds for approval in redistricting and it has expanded to include some counties/locales in other states.

That said even under VRA approval those states have been able to elect Republican delegations.


98 posted on 01/26/2013 6:56:56 PM PST by deport
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To: kabar

THANK YOU!


99 posted on 01/26/2013 7:15:16 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Apply the same scheme to overall conservative states or “purple” leaners. You will not take all of Texas. Or Georgia. Or any of the others. It will free up EV’s for Democrats in conservative states. You’ll effectively be giving control over to population density, across the board. This as you note favors Democrats, and they are aware of this, having favored it for years.

You seem to be missing the point. THIS IS A GOP STRATEGY FOR SWING STATES WHERE THE REPS CONTROL THE GOVERNORSHIP AND STATE LEGISLATURE. IT WOULD NOT BE USED FOR RED STATES AND THE DEMS WOULD BLOCK ANY ATTEMPT TO DO IT FOR BLUE STATES.

The left wants direct election of the President via the popular vote. They have been supporting the efforts of Natiional Popular Vote that will circumvent the Constituton and the electoral college using state compacts. Once that happens, the Reps will never win the WH again.

100 posted on 01/26/2013 8:54:53 PM PST by kabar
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