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Posted on 02/10/2013 7:10:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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What color is the sky on that planet?
Summary and Report here:
If Louie F. Told me the sky was blue I’d still have to look for myself. I have no idea why Penn State chose that A-hole.
The action taken by Pen State was muted.
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – Former Attorney General Dick Thornburgh and a team of other high-level experts have found that the Freeh report commissioned by the Penn State University Board of Trustees in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal is factually wrong, speculative and “fundamentally flawed.”
In a comprehensive analysis released today [Feb. 10, 2013], Thornburgh and former top FBI profiler Jim Clemente, prominent Washington Attorney Wick Sollers and the director of The Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit, Dr. Fred Berlin, conclude that the Freeh report was a failure that does not meet the basic requirements of a thorough, objective and fair investigation.
Based on a review of all available evidence, including discussions with attorneys representing Curley, Schultz and Spanier, the experts conclude that the late Penn State Coach Joe Paterno did not attempt to hide any information or hinder or impede any investigation related to the crimes or conduct of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky.
In what Thornburgh condemns as a “rush to injustice” regarding the Freeh report’s treatment of Joe Paterno, the former Attorney General said that “by supplying judgments without fact, (the Freeh report) undermines our faith in justice and due process.” The six-month analysis, composed of four separate independent reviews, is the most comprehensive and detailed examination of the Freeh report conducted to date. Among other findings, the experts determined that the conclusions of the Freeh report are based on raw speculation and unsupported opinion – not facts and evidence.
The Freeh report failed its client, the Penn State University Board of Trustees, and, more significantly, it failed Sandusky’s victims by not finding the truth. The Freeh report ignored decades of expert research and analysis of the appropriate way to understand and investigate a child sexual victimization case, according to former top FBI profiler Clemente. The Freeh investigation was doomed from the beginning because it started with the wrong assumptions, Clemente concludes.
“The Freeh report is a profound failure,” Sollers said. “It isn't a little wrong on the minor issues. It is totally wrong on the most critical issues. That the Board and the NCAA relied on this report, without appropriate review or analysis, is a miscarriage of justice.”
Other major findings include:
compare the treatment Joe got to sen. menendez... and menendez is the pedophile.
hell, even Sandusky hasn’t been treated as badly by the press
why was Joe so vilified? because he was a conservative icon
So the family hires their law firm to come up with “THE TRUTH” as only a paid law firm can....surprise, surprise, the paid assassin agrees with the person paying them. JOPAS legend is what it is!!!and nothing a lawyer comes up with will change what the obvious facts of this case has revealed!! JOPA and the higher ups at Penn State cared about His and the university’s reputation above anything else!!!
NCAA fines Penn State 60 million bucks and pays Louis Freeh 6.5 million bucks for the report that justified the fine.
Paid assassin indeed.
So then we all get to pick our "TRUTH" -- Louie Freeh's or Dick Thornburg's.
Choose wisely --
>>because he was a conservative icon<<
He was a SPORTS icon. He was meaningless to conservatives.
Probably the biggest problem with the Freeh Report is that there are no interviews with some of the PSU higher ups involved. That is the real “what”? of the report.
JoePa was already going to win his lawsuit of the NCAA because of the SCOTUS ruling in Tarkanian v NCAA 20 yrs ago. The Paterno Report going to make PSU a winner in court vs the NCAA and the media for slander. I bet the NCAA is already working on a settlement with PSU as we speak......especially after they got caught buying witness testimony in the U of Miami case.....its been a bad 2013 so far for the NCAA
Paterno and the other higher ups refused numerous requests for interviews with Freeh.
As far as I am concerned the NCAA cannot have enough bad years. They only care about where the next $$$$$$ are coming from. It grows & grows just like the govt. They’re rugs are worn out from so much crap being swept under them.
Paterno didn't refuse.
Only Curly, Schultz and Spanier and that because they were facing indictments.
And it was the state AG who asked that he not talk to McQueary.
Where was Dr Dranov's, Mr McQueary's, the university's legal counsel's interview???
Where were Freeh's interviews with Dr Raykowitz and the 2nd Mile Charity officials who knew about Sandusky and did nothing???
Where were Freeh's interviews with Jerry Lauro and the PA Department of Public Welfare???
Without those under oath he had no evidence that state officials had not been notified as he alleged in his report.
It is true.
To all the Paterno enablers who continue to post new threads as well many of the posts in those threads, I just spent the last hour or so over on the ESPN.com website to get a gauge on the reaction to the new Paterno (bought and paid for) Report.
I would estimate that judging by the comments posted to the published article on ESPN that the sports public finds this report laughable. The comments are running, in my estimation, about 95-97% against Paterno and his enabling of the pedophile Sandusky.
Don’t believe me? Go over there and judge for yourself. However, let me warn you that the comments are being posted so quickly that you will have to click on the “pause” button at the top of the page. The number of comments are already in the thousands.
So go over to ESPN.com and click on the Paterno story that is on their main web page. Once at the story scroll down to the comments and click on the number. This will bring you to the comments(pages). Then, enjoy! Some of the comments are hilarious.
Freeh said he respected the family’s right to conduct a campaign to “shape the legacy of Joe Paterno,” but called the critique self-serving. Paterno’s attorney was contacted for an interview the coach, he said, and Paterno spoke with a reporter and biographer before his death but not Freeh’s team.
Curley and Schultz also declined numerous requests for interviews, Freeh said. They have been facing criminal charges since November 2011.
Freeh on Sunday cited grand jury testimony by Paterno in 2011 in which Paterno said a graduate assistant relayed to him a 2001 allegation against Sandusky of a “sexual nature” with a child.
He referred to a key point in the July report in which he said Spanier, Schultz and Curley drew up a plan that called for reporting Sandusky to the state Department of Public Welfare in 2001. But Curley later said in an email that he changed his mind “after giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe.”
And yet he was fired. I guess he wasn't the "most", was he???
To try and pretend he new nothing about this disgraceful incident is pure fantasy.
Who is saying that??? What he knew he acted upon??? Did you read the Freeh report???
Go ahead and stick you heads in the sand
I prefer to stick mine in the pages of the reports -- the Freeh and the Thornburg and others. You should try it sometime.
I'll offer the strange circumstances that led to the arrest and conviction of Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel as a perfect piece of evidence to support this.
Gee, I wonder what the results will be. I mean, this has to be the most impartial report to ever have been released, right?
Paterno’s corpse should be exhumed, dumped in the street, set on fire, and fed to wild dogs.
Tom Corbett was elected Governor of Pennsylvania.
As governor, he was an ex-oficio member of the Penn State Board of Trustees. As the former Attorney General of Pennsylvania, he was also privy to the details of the Sandusky investigation. As a trustee of Penn State he had a fiduciary responsibility to do whatever it took -- without compromising any confidentiality of the Sandusky investigation -- to act in the best interests of the university. Firing Paterno was really the only course of action for the Board of Trustees to take once Corbett announced his decision to attend that formal meeting of the board in November 2011.
What a stupid and moronic thing to say!
I agree! Why would someone ever consider poisoning even feral dogs?
My care meter isn’t pegged enough to read the Paterno family’s self-serving report. Did the report discover that Paterno didn’t know after all about Sandusky allegedly boogering a boy in the PSU lockeroom?
No one is sticking their head in the sand.
It is you who claimed Paterno's law firm to be paid assassins.
I merely pointed out to you that Louis Freeh was paid 6.5 million to generate a report that the NCAA used as justification for crushing Penn State with 60 million in fines plus egregious sanctions.
Stick with the facts, and knock off the ad hominem nonsense.
Stick with the facts, and knock off the ad hominem nonsense.
The facts my friend are obvious if one just wants to know them...I suspect you are willing to defend Penn state at all costs...including the facts.
“nothing a lawyer comes up with will change what the obvious facts of this case has revealed!!”
Please POST those facts in summary form to back up your exclamation points... because the Freeh report had little in the way of facts. You must have an additional source you can share.
They paid some guy $6.5 MILLION to write a report? That’s the job I want. That’s more money than I would make in 4 lifetimes. And he made it for report.
Of course, apparently universities have so much money to throw around that they can afford to pay $6.5 MILLION to write a report.
I trust this report far more than i trust anything Freeh put together.
It is good to see the Paterno family punching back at the disgraceful lynch mob.
There you go with the BS again. You have no idea what I'm willing to defend. But I'll give you a hint, I will not defend the NCAA at all. They're a disgrace.
Oh please. More jurist mindset nonsense. We all instinctively know what happened here based on the facts we already have. The old Man is lucky he died before he too could’ve been rightfully strung up.
Buncha excuse makers.
“But Curley later said in an email that he changed his mind after giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe.”
That’s really the bottom line. Freeh took that to mean Joe told him to cover it up, but the email never said Joe expressed any advice of the sort. It is based on the conclusion Freeh wanted - and you, apparently.
<>It is true.<>
No it is not:
“Joe Paterno requested that he be interviewed by Freeh before his death. He wanted to be on the record. But obviously that was the last thing Freeh wanted....”
Why Freeh didn’t interview Paterno, McQueary, Schultz and Curley.
smh Just wow.
“We all instinctively know what happened here based on the facts we already have”
Post the facts. Let’s see how well you “instinctively” know things.
The fact of the matter is that McQuerie told Paterno about the shower room rape he personally witnessed, and Paterno at best then did the bare minimum of what he was required to do by law, and at worst, participated in Spanier's "humane" cover-up to protect Sandusky.
I agree, Lancey. Freeh got paid big bucks (6.5 million) to make somebody happy. The Paterno family has every right to fight back. I’m glad they are. This whole thing stinks to high heaven. As far as I can tell the only winners in all this are Freeh and the NCAA thugs who are pocketing 60 million bucks in fines.
Let's get it right.
He said: "With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more".
So I ask you:
With the benefit of hindsight, do you wish you had done more???
Thornburgh was one of 4 experts who investigated.
You should review who they are and their qualifications before generalizing with inuendos. They are people of immense qualifications, reputation, position and expertise.
As for Thornburgh, he has a lifetime of integrity and expertise, including Attorney General of the US under Reagan.
... but of course, if your mind is already made up, this will not matter to you.
So your instincts are your guide. That's frightening --
Expert analysis shows that while signs of Jerry Sanduskys child molestation existed with the benefit of hindsight, at the time of the 2001 shower incident reported by graduate assistant Mike McQueary, information was conveyed to Joe Paterno in terms that were too general and vague for him to disregard decades of contrary experience with Sandusky and to conclude that Sandusky was a child predator. As summarized in former FBI profiler Jim Clementes own words:
Given my 30 years of education, training and experience working, evaluating and assessing child sex crimes investigations around the world, it is my expert opinion that Paterno did not know, or even believe in the possibility, that Sandusky was capable of sexually assaulting boys. At worst, he believed that Sandusky was a touchy-feely guy who had boundary issues. This fact is clear from his repeated statements before he died.
[Paterno] did what he believed was reasonable and necessary to address the situation based on his understanding of the facts, and his position at the time. Paterno did what most people who cared about children would have done in the same situation. More than a decade later, and in hindsight, Paterno showed his concern for the victims when he stated he, wished [he] had done more.
Paterno, like everyone else who knew Sandusky, simply fell victim to effective grooming. [Grooming is a dynamic process of seemingly innocent, positive public behaviors by the offender, aimed at gaining the trust of the targeted child, parents and the community.] As an expert behavioral analyst and based on my review of the evidence, Paterno did not believe that the information he received from McQueary amounted to Sandusky being a predatory child sex offender.