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Support for Dorner is Troubling
Townhall.com ^ | February 12, 2013 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 02/12/2013 11:04:32 AM PST by Kaslin

Just when you thought you've seen it all with the Sandy Hook murders of a classroom full of children, America experiences another new low: A man named Christopher Dorner murders (as of this writing) three innocent people in order to air personal grievances. And his grievances are given serious attention by the national media, not to mention left-wing websites.

To better understand this, imagine the outcry if, let us say, a white student who was certain that he was denied admission to a prestigious university because of affirmative action, murdered a university official and the daughter of the dean of admissions and her fiance.

Imagine further that this man had posted a lengthy manifesto delineating how unfairly he had been treated by that university, and that he would continue to murder admissions department officials until the university admitted he was wrongfully rejected.

And imagine if the murderer had listed Fox News and conservative talk show hosts as media personalities he admired, as Dorner listed Chris Matthews, Tavis Smiley and Soledad O'Brien, among others, nearly all on the left.

Finally, imagine how the media, and perhaps the president himself, would have reacted.

A tsunami of vilification of conservatives and of conservative media would have ensued. We would be told 24/7 that talk radio is hate radio and that Fox News should be ostracized from civilized company. We would be told how right-wing hate had produced such a murderous man.

Moreover the murderer would be labeled exactly what he was, a murderer, and would not be regarded by any conservatives as in any way heroic. Conservative commentators would, rightly, outdo one another in condemnation of the murderer.

This has not been the case with Christopher Dorner. He is widely depicted as a man with legitimate grievances that caused him to "snap." His "manifesto" is widely read and often praised, a Facebook page has been set up to defend him, and thousands of commentators on left-wing sites concentrate their fury on the Los Angeles Police Department, while portraying Dorner sympathetically.

It is important to remember that Dorner murdered a young woman and her fiance simply because she was the daughter of a cop -- the man who acted as Dorner's defense advocate in the LAPD proceedings against him. But as one comment on a left-wing site noted, that was a good idea because if the cop had been murdered, he wouldn't have suffered, but if his daughter and her fianc? are murdered, then the cop would experience real pain until he died.

Any public figure, especially any member of the clergy, who does not unambiguously condemn Dorner as a psychopathic murderer, is failing in his or her duty. This is not the time to discuss allegations of racism in the Los Angeles Police Department. For one thing, being wrongfully dismissed from a job -- if, indeed, that is what happened to Dorner -- inhabits a different moral universe than murder. For another, the more the public pays attention to this murderer's "manifesto," the more murders-for-attention will take place.

How could any number of self-pitying angry individuals who see themselves as victims not get the idea that murdering people is a great way to get people to take you and your grievances seriously?

Constance Rice, a prominent Los Angeles civil rights attorney, a black woman called by NPR last year the "Conscience Of The City [Los Angeles]," wrote in a Los Angeles Times op-ed column about "the disturbing support for Dorner's manifesto from the black community on the Internet and on black radio."

And Rice, who has said that she woke up every day for years wondering how she could sue the Los Angeles Police Department for alleged abuses, went on to write, "Dorner is absolutely wrong when he states in the manifesto that 'the department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days'. ... The good guys are now in charge of LAPD culture."

But that apparently does not matter to the many black Americans who have so much anger and so clearly define themselves as victims that they will, in too many cases, support black murderers -- from OJ Simpson to Christopher Dorner.

What we have here is another proof that nothing leads to murder and other evils more than a sense of victimization. This is true for nations, just as it is for individuals. The German sense of victimization led to World War II. Dorner believes himself to be a victim and consequently feels entitled to murder.

But the real victims are decomposing in their graves.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: arguingwithlibs; christopherdorner; dorner; liberals
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To: Kaslin
I think that much of what is being interpreted as Dorner support is actually just anti LAPD support. The LAPD has proved themselves to be trigger happy, jack booted buffoons that have no interest in the safety of the people that they have sworn to serve. The usual crazies not withstanding. I have read that a bunch of nuts are supporting the Colorado theater killer too.
41 posted on 02/12/2013 12:36:41 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: justice14
Nothing you said gives Dorner the right to murder people. Nothing. You are sick for thinking otherwise. BTW, you spelled “cops” wrong.

Never said I did...In fact, I indicated I opposed it, if in fact Dorner killed anyone...

I'll try to make it a little more clear...The current actions of some of the police thruout the country can push a situation like this to happen...I'm surprised some pet owner hasn't taken out a kop who unjustly murdered his family pet...

Everyone has the internet now days...These things aren't kept secret like they may have been in the past...And people are getting a view of kops, swat teams, military vehicles and drones and are not liking what they see...A completely new view of what we always saw of Andy, Barnie and Opie...

42 posted on 02/12/2013 12:38:48 PM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: justice14
From his post:

I don’t try to justify what he is charged with because that of course is unacceptable
43 posted on 02/12/2013 12:38:50 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: Venturer
If they don’t they probably needed firing.

Yes, but you still need to consider it and be careful. Lots of kooks on the edge these days.
44 posted on 02/12/2013 12:42:07 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: Iscool
You unjustly take away a man’s livlihood, in some cases you are lighting a powder keg...More people ought to realize that...

Classic case of victimizing the perpetrator.

Dorner is scum. His recourse was the court, not murder. He is foul and deserves NO sympathy.

45 posted on 02/12/2013 12:43:10 PM PST by what's up
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To: Uncle Miltie

And yet the silence is deafening from the MSM covering that the police injured/killed innocent bystanders. You are right, they are hunting him to avoid being hunted themselves. His manifesto, the uncensored version, is interesting reading. The names he provided should be investigated by an independent agency and ALL the bad apples should be culled.


46 posted on 02/12/2013 12:48:33 PM PST by toolman1401
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To: livius
I don’t even know why blacks are out there rooting for this guy.

Blacks know what it is to get roughed up by cops. This guy don't come off as a nutcase. He may have been pushed over the edge. I've seen guys snap for being denied leave. Sometimes it does not take much to trigger a reaction like this.

47 posted on 02/12/2013 12:49:13 PM PST by USAF80
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To: latina4dubya
i am not at all surprised he has supporters... i have a hard time believing his supporters are mainly libs...

Read some of the comments here and it makes you wonder. The guy is a murderer period. There is no justification for what he has done.

48 posted on 02/12/2013 12:50:40 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: cuban leaf

I don’t think there is support for Dorner; I think there is disgust with the corrupt, trigger-happy incompetents in the LAPD.
It is not the same thing...


49 posted on 02/12/2013 12:53:17 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: toolman1401
The names he provided should be investigated by an independent agency and ALL the bad apples should be culled.

Didn't you hear? The LAPD has reopened the case, and is investigating themselves again. Bet I know the outcome.
50 posted on 02/12/2013 12:53:42 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: Jeff Chandler
From my experience I would wager that there are plenty of sick puppies on this very forum who feel that way.

Glee, is difficult to hide, isn't it?.

51 posted on 02/12/2013 12:55:23 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58
There is no justification for what he has done.

true--but there are reasons...

52 posted on 02/12/2013 12:58:37 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Venturer
If they don’t they probably needed firing.

After severe abuse in a job, I went out and found another job. Now, what's going to be done about the abuse? (crickets...)

53 posted on 02/12/2013 12:58:57 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Kaslin
Our political, business and academic leaders have sponsored so much feminized doomsday and pseudo-military junk information, that they've scared themselves. In reaction to their own propaganda, they are stampeding like a hysterical herd against our Second Amendment instead of trying the good government of what they call the "patriarchy" again.


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           alone. Hysteric




54 posted on 02/12/2013 1:04:09 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ZX12R
I think there are some people that just like that he is giving it to the police and being successful.

i think there are a lot of people who like that he is giving it to the particular police department...

55 posted on 02/12/2013 1:07:08 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Kaslin

People are already pissed at cops and the government, plus the cops went and shot up two vehicles of innocents over this, so, people are even more pissed.


56 posted on 02/12/2013 1:08:59 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: what's up
Dorner is scum. His recourse was the court, not murder. He is foul and deserves NO sympathy.

It may be true that he is a scum bag that took the wrong option, but that does not mean that the corruption in the system did not make him go over that edge in the first place.

You can shaft people and get away with it most of the time. That is why systems like that do it. But once in a while, you pick the wrong person to drill, and he will go medieval on you a$$.

What he is doing does not negate the fact that they, and they alone, created their own worst enemy.
57 posted on 02/12/2013 1:15:02 PM PST by Rage cat
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To: livius; what's up

Acknowledging that Dorner’s assertions about the LAPD would appear to have some merit most certainly does not mean that I approve of what he’s doing.


58 posted on 02/12/2013 1:18:59 PM PST by MeganC (Liberals fool people by walking upright.)
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To: Iscool

I think he just didn’t like the way you spell “kop.”


59 posted on 02/12/2013 1:23:51 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Rage cat
the corruption in the system did not make him go over that edge in the first place.

People endure corruption all the time yet they do not resort to murder.

The only one who causes a murderer to kill is the murderer himself. Dorner is no victim.

60 posted on 02/12/2013 1:24:42 PM PST by what's up
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