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Emphasis mine. Sure the source may be Australian but it looks like this will apply to us as well. Now why on earth would American psychiatrists wish to see more people classified with mental disorders? Hmm... I can think of a few reasons.

Anyways, stepping out for a little while so don't think I just posted and ran.

1 posted on 02/23/2013 10:54:32 AM PST by Drew68
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I love Psychiatrists, don't you? I mean, come on! They prescribe wonderful drugs for anyone and anybody! It is a shame that many of the drugs cause so many maniacal mass murders, but, what the hell?.....sorry, I need more Soma...I'll be resting for awhile....

FMCDH(BITS)

42 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:46 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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Obama’s been president for... how long?

I QUALIFY!!!


43 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:58 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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Q: What is the name of a paranoid mental disorder that identifies all other individuals as potentially dangerous deviants?

A: Psychology.


45 posted on 02/23/2013 11:33:26 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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A very shy guy goes into a bar and sees a beautiful woman sitting at the bar. After an hour of gathering up his courage, he finally goes over to her and asks, tentatively, "Um, would you mind if I chatted with you for a while?"

She responds by yelling, at the top of her lungs, "NO! I won't sleep with you tonight!" Everyone in the bar is now staring at them. Naturally, the guy is hopelessly and completely embarrassed and he slinks back to his table.

After a few minutes, the woman walks over to him and apologizes. She smiles at him and says, "I'm sorry if I embarrassed you. You see, I'm a graduate student in psychology, and I'm studying how people respond to embarrassing situations."

To which he responds, at the top of his lungs, "What do you mean $200?!"


47 posted on 02/23/2013 11:34:43 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Psychiatrists

They are the high priests of Secular Humanism.

I refuse to asknowledge that religion. In fact, I deny the existence of psychiatrists.

51 posted on 02/23/2013 11:46:10 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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52 posted on 02/23/2013 11:46:29 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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The shrink told a friend of mine that he didn't grieve properly after his father died (whatever that means). His father was 87.

My friend noted that the shrink had the nerve to charge him for the whole half hour ($100) even though he was on the phone for half of the session.

My friend never went back. Said if he went back....lock'm up....because he's crazy.

53 posted on 02/23/2013 11:48:12 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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This is another example of the mask falling off and revealing the true liberal underneath (and yes, the history of most psychiatry associations shows strong liberal bias). They really do not care for people other than themselves...they see others as objects, numbers and obstacles. They want us to freeze in the cold to “save the earth”, fall prey to vermin by hacking away at the 2nd Amendment, make the killing of the youngest and the euthanization of the oldest a cause for celebration (abortion and Obamacare) and replace a successful choice (God) with one that never succeeds (government). They hate people, so any lengthy grief for another is a mystery to them.

I personally believe that grief over losing a loved one lasts a lifetime. It diminishes very much over time but is always there, only to end when we are reunited with them in a world a whole lot better than this one.


54 posted on 02/23/2013 11:52:06 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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It’s about a 4:1 ratio of time with a loved one to time “getting over” loss thereof. Didn’t quite believe it until it took 1.5 years to get over the ending of a 6 year relationship.

This 2 week line is sheer idiocy. Anyone breaking up after dating a couple months would be labeled mentally ill - pretty much everyone either has been there or will.


56 posted on 02/23/2013 11:54:02 AM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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The leading cause of “grief lasting longer than two weeks” is Barack Hussein Obama. There’s much grief for what he’s doing to America. We thought it could be cured on Nov. 6th, 2012 but the disease lingers and still affects millions of Americans.


57 posted on 02/23/2013 11:58:28 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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This on the heels on suspending the Second Amendment for people with "mental problems" of any kind.
Are my suspicions also a sign of "mental illness"?

We know it can takes months to years to cope with the death of someone very close. It is normal.
A two week time limit to mourn the loss of a child. Barbaric!

60 posted on 02/23/2013 12:17:49 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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I’ve been in grievous mourning since November 6.


64 posted on 02/23/2013 12:38:44 PM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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Having lost both my parents and an older sister with whom I was very close I know something about grieving. In two weeks you have barely gotten over the funeral and all legal details of the death, and are beginning to look at issues about the estate and taxes. Family holidays closely following the death are especially hard. The grieving process takes months before things finally sink in and you can come to grips with losing a loved one. Even years after you sometimes think of them and feel a sense of loss. Surely a grief that takes over ones life and clouds out all else for months or even years is something in need of therapy. But to weeks and done is ridiculous.


68 posted on 02/23/2013 12:51:20 PM PST by The Great RJ
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Grief can last for years, but it certainly isn’t a mental disorder. Yes, we know why “our” shrinks would want to classify people and it all has to do with control.


69 posted on 02/23/2013 12:52:13 PM PST by madison10
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This is nonsense. It took me about 18 months to work through my grief after my first wife died, following 30 years of marriage. No, I wasn't depressed. No, I didn't need psychiatric care. No, I didn't need to be doped up. But there was a hollow place in my life. That doesn't go away quickly.
81 posted on 02/23/2013 1:47:16 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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You lost someone close to you, you grieve, you pray, you talk to your clergyman, you turn on your computer to read some anonymous fool tell you that you are an “idiot”, “stupid”, and that you oughta call a shrink and load up on Prozac. Yeah, that’s the ticket!


84 posted on 02/23/2013 1:55:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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There were 66 comments here so I read those before posting. I was a professional counselor/psychological examiner for over 20 yrs. and had a private practice. I was a conservative then, too. I also did grief counseling.

The reason for any diagnosis is this: If a person cannot control his/her own life well enough to carry on his/her usual life, a diagnosis is usually called for to determine why this is happening - but this variant behavior must persist for a length of time to give a diagnosis. Just because the DSM V we use, gives a directive as to length of time for a diagnosis, I wouldn’t have to use that time if I thought it was too short for a patient – remember every patient is different and a cookie cutter diagnosis does not exist if the evaluator has reason to differ with the length of time stated or any other reason that would adjust that diagnosis.

As long as a person can make decisions and carry on his/her life, there is no reason for a diagnosis of anything.

Concerning the grief process: The same applies with grief. As long as the person can make decisions and carry on his/her life, there is no diagnosis pertaining to grief. Now, consider, a person stays in bed for a year because the husband died. That situation could call for a diagnosis but only if that diagnosis was required for some valid reason.

A diagnosis is not a diagnosis until it is on paper (considering a computer as paper these days). In other words, I might think in my mind the patient qualifies for a certain diagnosis but until I record that, it doesn’t exist. If I had no reason to record it, I didn’t. Also, once notes about a patient are made, they are subject to be taken to court if for some reason the patient is in court. I didn’t record notes unless the sessions were paid for by another entity, like Texas Rehabilitation or Social Security. I had the ability to remember from one session to another, the last sentence the patient said in counseling the week before and we picked up there. I protected my patient’s confidentiality that way; if I had no notes there was nothing to take to court. If I had made a recorded diagnosis, I had better be able to defend that diagnosis in court.

If a private patient came in for grief counseling, I wouldn’t immediately write down a diagnosis - that would be ridiculous. Each person deals with grief in his/her own way. One can’t put a time limit on grief as going through the process changes as time goes by and that is individual for every person. In my opinion, it is new experiences that help dull the pain of grief and eventually there are enough new experiences that the patient thinks of those intermittently with the grief – it’s not constant grief as it was and as more time and experiences happen, the time spent on grief is less and less.

The grief is gradually put in a box in the brain and the person’s life goes on. However, all the person has to do is think of what’s in that box, and the grief comes back for a time. I have gone through a number of family deaths, my husband’s the latest, and those boxes are there. When I think of one of those boxes, I still cry. We would be inhuman if those memories weren’t there. I can’t cry for long as my Yorkie insists on licking the tears and that gets messy.

So, Freepers, all psychologists and counselors are not suspect to be as most of you think. Note I left out psychiatrists. A story: a counselor worked for a psychiatrist. This counselor came to me one day and asked how I “cured” people because the psychiatrist had a patient she was seeing and the patient’s insurance was almost out and she wanted this person to get better before that happened. She had noticed my patients did not come to me for years, mainly a few months at most. I told her my counseling methods to help people “cure” themselves. In my mind, I was thinking it was a terrible thing the psychiatrist was doing – writing prescriptions and keeping the patient until the insurance ran out. My method was, get the patient able to handle his/her life without me and get out of my office as fast as possible.

I hope this helps you better understand how diagnoses are made, why they are made, and maybe you can feel better about some of us. There are even psychiatrists who care about their patients – I just wasn’t around any in my work – the ones I dealt with were insurance money freaks.


91 posted on 02/23/2013 2:09:12 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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A man calls the psychiatrist at a mental hospital and asks who’s in room 24. “Nobody” comes the reply. “Good” says the man, “I must have escaped.”


106 posted on 02/23/2013 2:43:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Psychiatrists to brand grief lasting longer than two weeks a mental illness

And then there willl be a new study which recommends a commission which, in turn, will lead to a new federal agency to deal with this critical issue and then the agency will have its annual budget growth scaled back by the Republicans and then the Republicans will get the blame for... oh, whatever.

Who the hell cares anymore?

107 posted on 02/23/2013 2:44:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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A guy is walking past a big wooden fence
at the insane asylum and he hears the residents inside 
chanting, "Thirteen! Thirteen! Thirteen!" Quite curious about 
this, he finds a hole in the fence, and looks in. Someone
inside pokes him in the eye. Then everyone inside the asylum 
starts chanting, "Fourteen! Fourteen! Fourteen!" 


108 posted on 02/23/2013 2:47:46 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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