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The Great Ammunition Myth - The government is not planning a violent putdown of civil unrest.
National Review Online ^ | March 5, 2013 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 03/05/2013 4:31:55 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

The article actually (and unintentionally) raises another problem for the citizen/taxpayer: why are there so many layers and layers and layers of federal agency employees in the first place, leaving alone the question of why they’re packing heat? I think we’re getting a little help identifying where cuts can be made here.

And .357 ammo? Wouldn’t we all love to have a few boxes of that stuff in the closet, but we all know those are revolver loads.


21 posted on 03/05/2013 4:57:38 PM PST by lurk
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To: neverdem
Keep believing that..you will be o.k. The Jews in Germany never believed that the Nazis were coming after them like other Jews said that they were,either. History tells us which side was right.

We have this example, plus more from the past to learn from. If we refuse to heed the warnings from the past......

22 posted on 03/05/2013 4:57:51 PM PST by sport
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To: neverdem; All

Lock and load, people...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2993832/posts


23 posted on 03/05/2013 4:58:02 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: INVAR; Admin Moderator

Why did you introduce an anti-semitic libel?


24 posted on 03/05/2013 4:58:44 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: lurk
And .357 ammo? Wouldn’t we all love to have a few boxes of that stuff in the closet, but we all know those are revolver loads.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you didn't see the "sig" after the .357.
You would otherwise be correct if they were buying .357 MAG ammo, but they are talking about .357 SIG.
.357 SIG is an auto pistol round, .357 MAG is a revolver round.
25 posted on 03/05/2013 5:01:37 PM PST by brent13a
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To: brent13a

Train the police or staff the diversity office.

MAN it’s hard to rule a city.


26 posted on 03/05/2013 5:02:11 PM PST by DManA
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To: raptor22

The author was probably paid by the 0 administration to write an article to quell concerns and civil unrest. Don’t buy it for second....


27 posted on 03/05/2013 5:03:59 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: FewsOrange

The author is trying to use rational arguments against a conspiracy theory.

He stands no chance.

Conspiracy theories are indestructible. If we we ever get hit by a massive asteroid the only things that will survive will be cockroaches and conspiracy theories.


This is one of the best postings I have read here.... ever. Salute and FRegards!


28 posted on 03/05/2013 5:04:13 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: ez
RE: "The Department of Education, however, being armed does NOT make sense to me."

DOE raids Stockton [California] home in criminal probe.

.. oh but all government entities must be outfitted to handle the 24/7 threats from the masses . . . . :)

29 posted on 03/05/2013 5:07:04 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: jsanders2001
The author was probably paid by the 0 administration to write an article to quell concerns and civil unrest. Don’t buy it for second....

Perhaps.
And maybe every armed government agent is a trained handgun sniper that will kill with every shot he/she takes.
Because, when you divvy up the yearly amount of allotted ammo per agent 500-1000 rounds is much much more than any TEA partier or lifelong hunter will have stockpiled.
30 posted on 03/05/2013 5:10:32 PM PST by brent13a
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To: neverdem

What then, does the Department of Homeland Security need with over 2700 armored vehicles?


31 posted on 03/05/2013 5:10:46 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Yeah, they do use hollow points for practice. In fact it is a violation of Customs and Border Protection’s firearms policy to use anything other than the hollow points issued by CBP in service issued handguns.


32 posted on 03/05/2013 5:12:22 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
What then, does the Department of Homeland Security need with over 2700 armored vehicles?

Good question.
--Are they getting them all at once?
--Are they going to have like 3 giant parking lots in a few places around the US just full of APC's?
--How many are going to be granted to police departments who don't need them?
--How much does DHS operate overseas, and how many APC's will be used overseas and not here?
etc
etc

33 posted on 03/05/2013 5:15:02 PM PST by brent13a
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To: neverdem

I’ve been saying much of this for a while and I usually get a bird or ‘ib4tz’


34 posted on 03/05/2013 5:15:12 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Uncle Miltie
Why hollow-points?

Because that is what DHS has always used. Even before DHS, the legacy agencies of Customs, INS and the Border Patrol all used hollow points for basic qualification and practice.

35 posted on 03/05/2013 5:15:12 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: neverdem
Think of it like “that monthly trip to Sam’s Club or Costco,” he added.



Yeah. Just a monthly shopping trip.
36 posted on 03/05/2013 5:17:08 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: ctdonath2
It makes sense.
Until you get to the 2,700 armored personnel carriers.

Agreed. Where the ammo was concerned, I figured they already had enough on hand to cause us plenty of trouble *before* these new procurement actions were reported. Also knowing how much ammo the citizens have stockpiled in recent years, I'd say the feds would be on the losing side of any supply/attrition scenario.

And of course they know that, too, which is the reason behind the APCs. Fifty or so of those things per state would tip the tactical scales back in the feds' direction... at least in the short term.

37 posted on 03/05/2013 5:18:34 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Ajnin; Uncle Miltie
Yeah, they do use hollow points for practice. In fact it is a violation of Customs and Border Protection’s firearms policy to use anything other than the hollow points issued by CBP in service issued handguns.

"You train with what you carry" is what we say. It doesn't make sense, if you can afford it, to train with anything else than what you carry on duty. Why qualify at the range with a round that shoots differently than the one that you may need to save your life?
38 posted on 03/05/2013 5:18:34 PM PST by brent13a
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To: Ajnin

If that’s standard practice, isn’t it stupid?

I have cheap range ammo for paper targets and expensive personal protection hollow points.

Is the gubmint stupid buying hollow points for putting holes in paper?


39 posted on 03/05/2013 5:19:20 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: neverdem

DHS buys 1.6 billions rounds and 2,700 MRAP mine-resistant Armored Vehicles.

A.G. Holder says that the White House can use drone strikes to kill U.S. citizens on American soil.

Move along folks, nothing to see here...


40 posted on 03/05/2013 5:21:56 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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