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Feds buying 100 years worth of ammo
WorldNetDaily ^ | Mar 11, 2013 | staff writer

Posted on 03/11/2013 8:14:12 PM PDT by wesagain

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To: Hugin

“And I say the first one to use a NAZI analogy has lost the debate”

Why? That is just debate tripe byt hose trying to seem experienced at debating. The fact is Nazi Germany is an excellent example to study. It wasn’t by any imagination a one-off situation but one of modern human history.


101 posted on 03/12/2013 4:29:44 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Hugin
And I say the first one to use a NAZI analogy has lost the debate.

Does the rule also apply if they use a Commie analogy?

102 posted on 03/12/2013 4:30:41 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ansel12

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/342161/great-ammunition-myth-charles-c-w-cooke


103 posted on 03/12/2013 4:33:26 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: wesagain

Ya ever think that whatever is coming is bigger than King Barak himself has a handle on? Life is going to change and the King is just trying to make sure that he and his minions are one up? I’ve got a strange feeling about this. I pray that I’m just getting old and crotchety.


104 posted on 03/12/2013 4:38:19 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: wesagain

WND is nuts......


105 posted on 03/12/2013 4:39:49 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Life is a bitch. If it was easy, we would call it a slut)
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To: G Larry
And we’re supposed to believe they paid premium prices to use hollow points for “target practice”?

One of my shooting instructors told me they did just that, when they used his facility.

20 years ago.

106 posted on 03/12/2013 4:42:02 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I had already read that article and did not consider it any more useful than all the rest.

This writing doesn’t help me much.
“Okay. And why does the USDA need 320,000 rounds? Because it runs the Forest Service, which covers “155 national forests” and “20 national grasslands” on a total of “193 million acres of land.” As well as agents in the field, the outfit has a law-enforcement unit based in Washington, D.C., whose responsibility it is to enforce federal laws and regulations. In context, those 320,000 rounds look a lot less threatening: If the U.S. Forest Service were to distribute ammunition at the same rate as the Social Security Administration, they would have enough for just 542 agents — not bad for an organization that covers an area the size of Pakistan (or twice the size of Japan or Germany).”

I have no idea how the physical size of the nation or of our forests translates into the amount of ammunition needed per employee. They don’t tell me if all the people counted are gun toting agents or just employees, in other words, it still doesn’t put the issue to rest.


107 posted on 03/12/2013 4:53:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: CodeToad

“Liberals are the most hate-filled mean-spirited violent murderers. They always have been, from Lenin to Stalin to Pol Pot to all the great liberals.”

I agree with you that leftists are filled with hate. But these American leftists don’t have the balls to pick up a rifle and die on a hilltop for the glory of Buckwheat.


108 posted on 03/12/2013 4:58:31 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Hugin

That’s the thing about opinions isn’t it.

I also noticed you didn’t amswer the question, the person that fails to directly answer the question in my experince is the one who lost the debate.


109 posted on 03/12/2013 5:34:43 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Hugin

Also see post #98


110 posted on 03/12/2013 5:35:29 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ansel12
1. It is a five year contract request.
2. It covers thousands of employees.
3. It is less than 600 rounds per employee.
4. It is not all 40 and 9mm there is 5.56mm.
5. There is OVER 1 BILLION rounds of ammo made in this country every day. Including over 1 million rounds of 22.

You asked for a break down. If you don't like what I gave you go do it your self. All of the information is on the net.

Quite frankly I am tired of this OVER six month old story being breathlessly discussed (by a bunch of people who claim to be smart) on FR. There are more important things going on. This is disinfo to stir up the masses and apparently it is working.It has been posted in some form on FR over thirty times.

111 posted on 03/12/2013 7:18:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: GBA

Your surrender might be complete but you can bet your genitals that mine isn’t. I am not French and I don’t believe in waving white flags for any reason.


112 posted on 03/12/2013 7:22:44 PM PDT by B4Ranch (When democracy turns to tyranny, we still get to vote. We just won't use voting boxes to do it.)
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To: CodeToad; sergeantdave

>>In Hitler’s Germany that is exactly what happened. Today a person is a cook or teacher and tomorrow they wear a black uniform with lethal authority.<<

This country has more men and women who know how to use a scoped deer hunting rifle at 400 yards, 1200 feet than we do police officers. Put on a black uniform and attempt to exert lethal authority and you will be dead in 24 hours. Most likely the fatal shot will hit you while you are driving home in your personal vehicle without your bullet proof vest on and you are not connected to dispatch by radio. Don’t be surprised should you make it home that your house will have been burned to the ground by your next door neighbors.

The last thing I fear is our police force or our military turning on us. They know they are out numbered and they know they cannot protect their own families when they are out terrorizing ours.

What I do fear is having to shoot fellow Americans who didn’t bother to provide for their own families during hard times yet who think they are entitled to the supplies that I have gathered for my family.


113 posted on 03/12/2013 7:38:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch (When democracy turns to tyranny, we still get to vote. We just won't use voting boxes to do it.)
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To: B4Ranch
That's good to know if things go that far. You won't be alone. But...let's not go that far.

Now that the wheels are off the bus and it's teetering on the edge of whatever they're calling the cliff this time, before we fall into the abyss, maybe we could start pulling it and ourselves back from the edge, get the wheels back on, fire the bus driver, turn around and get the heck out of here and off this road.

This crap we are doing to ourselves has taken down everyone who's tried it. We need to make it stop before we add ourselves to that list.

114 posted on 03/12/2013 8:16:31 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I didn’t see the answers in your list.

What is the difference between the request and the purchase, what are the past purchases or requests or whatever?

We know that it covers “thousands of employees” which is vague but how many gun carrying agents is what we are trying to find out.

600 rounds per? See above.

We already know the ammo is mixed.

Who cares how much ammo is made in America, and do all those people always use hollow points for practice?

Why don’t they just show us that all this is just like it was 5 and 10, and 15 years ago?


115 posted on 03/12/2013 9:05:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: B4Ranch

I don’t think you get the Block Captain approach. They don’t drive home, they are home. I have no doubt many areas will be more like us and no commie will survive the night but many neighborhoods will fall to such tactics as making a person have total authority over their local area.


116 posted on 03/13/2013 7:28:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: wesagain
You want the framework behind everything Obama is doing?

Freedom From War, Publication 7277, State Dept. 1961.

Reducing nuke stockpile. Internal security forces - ie "we need a civilian military AS STRONG as ou military". Cutting regular military down - a sizeable part of which is operating under UN command or fulfilling UN objectives. Disarming citizens. The latest UN small arms treaty crap. Destroying the last superpower by killing the economy and creating economic crises by printing money like water. Getting ready to Cyprus our 401k's into "government bonds" and private bank savings into "stock/equity in the bank" your money's in - worse than FDIC-insured. Not far fetched as he hates America, walked around for months with the Post-America book he was reading, has all national intelligence assets looking at anyone who is "anti-government" (anti-Obama) as a threat. (And in case you didn't know, Freedom From War, the UN treaties do not allow civillians to remain armed - which means confiscation, by force if necessary.)

Do not think they will not take your supplies as well, as these emergency orders will also allow them to take any of your property they need. Once they disarm you it won't be hard.

This is what it's all about. In its "Second Annual Report to Congress" (February 1963), the ACDA presented a simple graphic depiction (see top of next page) demonstrating its proposed three-stage disarmament process:

U.S. THREE-STAGE DISARMAMENT PLAN


117 posted on 03/30/2013 3:11:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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