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What if It’s Not About North Korea?
PJ Media ^ | April 5, 2013 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 04/05/2013 10:32:05 AM PDT by AU72

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To: Marko413
Good points.

It was embarrassing for Iraq. I can’t remember the kill ratios but I think we only lost a couple Bradleys from enemy fire.

It was even more embarrassing for Russia. That conflict proved yet again that Soviet/Russian weapons platforms and military doctrines simply wilt in the fact of US/Western firepower. I'm not saying their stuff is bad, only that our stuff really is that much better in most cases - and we and our allies tend to be able to afford 10 times more training on the equipment.

Not trying to get too overconfident here, just throwing in my agreement that the media does indeed have a habit of overestimating the opposition.

Yup, I too remember the media casualty estimates going into Desert Storm. We were supposedly going to face 10,000 KIA's. In reality we lost about 250 dead - and a big chunk of those was one SCUD hitting a barracks.

The reality is that in an actual war, South Korea could easily defeat the North - without us if they needed to. If North Korea attacks the South in a significant way, it would be the end of North Korea - and everyone knows it. North Korea has an antiquated military, largely made up of 1950's/1960's technology. South Korea has a first world military with the latest gear, training and tactics. The North could do some damage, would probably use poison gas in an attempt to deny the South their airfields, would likely shell Seoul to cause chaos, etc. It wouldn't take long though for the North's offensive to collapse and fall to pieces - they probably don't even have the food or supply logistics for more than a few days of real fighting.

21 posted on 04/05/2013 11:46:55 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Hardraade

EMP seems to escape our consciousness. Why is that? It was always the “go to” first strike in the cold war because it would completely shut down the country.

Why waste a nuke by blowing up Soul or Tokyo when an EMP would kill 80% of their population and completely destroy their ability to produce goods.

FACT: In 2004 several high ranking Russian military testified to the Congressional EMP Commission that plans for a “Super EMP” nuke had leaked to NK (and now Iran).

Fact: A Nuke 250 miles over Chicago would cause the death of 90% of the US population (EMP Commission). Question, why waste a nuke killing a few million in a city unless you can’t put one into orbit.

A night satellite photo of the Japanese Sea shows S. Korea and Japan very brightly lit and N. Korea black. A nuke detonated only 50 miles over the Japanese Sea would take out all of N. Korea and most of Japan without hurting N. Korea at all. Who would benefit from this? China and Russia as the USA fades into economic oblivion and China and Russia step in to pick up the slack from SK and J.

By the way, NK does have a delivery system to reach any coastal city in the world. It is called a boat. Same for Iran.

In your own life prepare for a time when, from time to time one of our coastal cities is nuked. The Nuclear Genie is out of the bottle for good now.


22 posted on 04/05/2013 12:03:38 PM PDT by Any Fate But Submission
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To: longfellowsmuse
I agree in general with your assessment. This is a practice run to see what response the US can muster. China is the prime observer and has its own designs for a coordinated challenge. China needs more time, as does Iran, the Arab states, Egypt, Venezuela, Sudan and others as they see the opportunity materialize. The US has not bottomed its military yet and these “incidents” are useful for gaging the degradation of US assets and resolve.
23 posted on 04/05/2013 12:06:35 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: sauron
“America is hated because it is a force for Good in the world. We need to be strong, vigilant, morally righteous (to give us that inner strength and protection from God), and militarily and economically powerful”

American people ......for the most part....and outside of our large governmental institutions are a force for good. But, by and large, our greedy wall street/government duo has been a bully and a thug of the most corrupt and dangerous nature.

Putrid corruption emanating from the leadership of the these America hating countries is easy to cover-up using the rotten stench from our own vile business and governmental "leaders" cough...cough!!

24 posted on 04/05/2013 12:16:24 PM PDT by free from tyranny
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To: AU72
It could be that Russia and China just wanted to test our Missile Defenses.

Russian Bomber Roulette

25 posted on 04/05/2013 12:31:10 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: Longbow1969

a friend on mine was in intelligence, and his job was to monitor NK fishing boats; that was 30 years ago, so I would guess using today’s equipment, fat-boy, can’t go to the toilet, without someone knowing about it....by the way, where does NK, get their fuel, knock down the tankers heading that way, and they all freeze in the dark....


26 posted on 04/05/2013 12:50:17 PM PDT by B212
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27 posted on 04/05/2013 12:53:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: jimbo123
Funny how you never hear the bisexual Kenyan socialist call for regime change in North Korea and Iran...

Administration called for regime change yesterday, "If they attack". How about before the attack?

28 posted on 04/05/2013 12:56:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Tupelo

I thought I’d get an fbi visit for calling the fraud a “magic negro”.
Not yet but just yesterday my kid told me he saw a welcome mat that said “come back when you get a f**king warrant”.


29 posted on 04/05/2013 2:24:33 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks AU72.
...what if it’s misdirection? What if there trying to get us to focus on them, when something else is in the works someplace else? ... pay special attention to people and communications moving north from Venezuela, where a very important election campaign has just begun to choose the successor to Hugo Chavez. The bus driver who served as his vice president would benefit from some dramatic event inside the United States, and the Russians, Iranians and Chinese are actively working for his victory.

30 posted on 04/06/2013 6:29:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: free from tyranny

It is easy to cover up with our own media!


31 posted on 04/06/2013 6:36:11 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: AU72
...when I see the North Koreans jumping up and down and threatening to nuke us, I ask myself what’s in it for the Iranians?

Totalitarian thugs in bed together? Who woudda thunk it possible?

Totalitarians and their love of 'power and control' trumps the 'feel good bullsh*t' they feed to their enslaved populations?

No, no, it can't be... Tell me it's not true...

32 posted on 04/06/2013 8:17:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Any Fate But Submission

This is the critical part in all that is happening.

China.

North Korea has its closest friendship with China. China holds the reigns.

China is playing us: We continue to send our factories there, yet do nothing as China has not become larger in exporting than America was.

We must stop importing so much and return American manufacturing.

Now.


33 posted on 04/06/2013 8:21:20 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Correction:

“China has no(W) become larger in exporting than America was.”

Sorry.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 8:22:44 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks AU72.
North Korea is a charter member of the Axis of Evil, and works hand in glove with the other surviving regime of that infamous trinity, Iran. I’ve been writing for years about the intimate relationship between the two, ranging from North Korean assistance in digging tunnels in Iranian mountains and in the Tehran subway system, to Iranian cooperation with North Korean missile and nuclear programs. Let’s just say that they work together a lot. So when I see the North Koreans jumping up and down and threatening to nuke us, I ask myself what’s in it for the Iranians? And I add the others in the global anti-American alliance. What’s in it for the Chinese? The Russians? The Venezuelans, Bolivians, Ecuadorians and Nicaraguans? Because all these guys coordinate so many of their activities that I can’t understand important events in any one of them without putting those events in the big context. When I see the Russians and the Chinese fighting against anti-Iranian sanctions, I remind myself that they, along with the Latin Americans, are in a banking network with Iran. When the Iranians sit down to negotiate about their nuclear program, I ask myself: what do the Russians want?

35 posted on 09/15/2013 9:05:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Whoops, sorry, this was from April, and I’d pinged already.


36 posted on 09/15/2013 9:15:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: AU72
...when I see the North Koreans jumping up and down and threatening to nuke us, I ask myself what’s in it for the Iranians? And I add the others in the global anti-American alliance. What’s in it for the Chinese?

Ledeen's right... he understands Iran and Iran's ability to strategically control North Koreans and South American puffed up (but stupid) dictators...

37 posted on 09/15/2013 10:51:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (As Iowahawk..summed it up Putin is now just basically doing donuts in ObamaÂ’s front yard." Steyn)
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To: HiJinx
Put that combo on a fishing or other commercial vessel and move into range of 2 or 3 Eastern Seaboard U.S. cities. You now have the ability to conduct a nuclear missile strike on the U.S. while our anti-missile eyes are trained on the Korean peninsula.

If you add the Central/South American countries into the mix, they frequently have fishing vessels along our coasts. The alliance becomes deadly when you consider who has what in the weapon/delivery system/platform equation.

That's impressive HiJinx. Iranians are high on effective strategy... If they didn't have a cave man type religion, they'd be a force to reckon with...

38 posted on 09/15/2013 10:59:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (As Iowahawk..summed it up Putin is now just basically doing donuts in ObamaÂ’s front yard." Steyn)
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