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Sen. McCain: I ‘don’t understand’ GOP threats to filibuster Senate gun bill
The Hill ^ | April 7, 2013 | Meghashyam Mali

Posted on 04/07/2013 1:05:12 PM PDT by opentalk

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Sunday expressed opposition to possible GOP efforts to filibuster a Senate gun-control measure, saying he did not “understand” the move to block debate.

“I don’t understand it,” said McCain on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “The purpose of the United States Senate is to debate and to vote and to let the people know where we stand.”

“What are we afraid of? Why would we not want… if this issue is as important as all of us think it is, why not take it to one of the world’s greatest deliberative bodies

… A number of GOP lawmakers, including Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.), Mike Lee (Utah), Marco Rubio (Fla.), and Ted Cruz (Texas) wrote to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) vowing that they would “oppose the motion to proceed to any legislation that will serve as a vehicle for any additional gun restrictions.”

Reid is planning to bring to the Senate floor this month legislation that would expand background checks, toughen penalties on straw purchasers of firearms and provide funding for school safety.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Arizona
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1 posted on 04/07/2013 1:05:12 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Anybody think to ask the genius why the filibuster exists at all?


2 posted on 04/07/2013 1:06:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Whiner doesn’t get his way.


3 posted on 04/07/2013 1:07:51 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: opentalk

Geeze, and to think many of us don’t understand how a guy whose claim to fame is getting shot down and then spending six years in prison holds and messes with a senate seat for lo these many years.


4 posted on 04/07/2013 1:08:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: opentalk

Thanks Arizona, once again, for voting in this progressive clueless jackass.

Hey Juan. The 2nd amendment is not open for debate, idiot.


5 posted on 04/07/2013 1:08:37 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: opentalk
If the Republicans WANT to slowly give up Constitutionally guaranteed rights, then opening up talks, debating with the gun-grabbers, and incrementally compromising with Socialists who dream of massacring their unarmed opponents, if that is the ultimate goal of the Republicans, then -- sure -- the filibuster makes no sense at all.

But, if you value inalienable rights, then there is simply nothing to talk about. Nothing at all.

6 posted on 04/07/2013 1:09:59 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: dforest

Wouldn’t this Benedict Arnold have made a great president?


7 posted on 04/07/2013 1:11:25 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: opentalk

Senile, or liberal...


8 posted on 04/07/2013 1:11:32 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: opentalk
one of the world’s greatest deliberative bodies

How long has it been since the Senate last did any deliberating? Certainly never since Dingy Harry took charge.

9 posted on 04/07/2013 1:12:42 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Luke21

He would not have been much better than Obama. McCain is a traitor and I do not care anymore about his so called service to the country. he has destroyed his image when it comes to that.


10 posted on 04/07/2013 1:13:52 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: opentalk

What’s not to understand? This is how stampedes get headed off. The rush to get something, anything, on the books as a “solution” for gun violence, only to realize later that far more regulation is ALREADY inscribed in the old statutes and law codes, and not repealed, that is not today being enforced.

Passing “new” laws is about as ineffectual of a strategy that could be thought up, if, like the laws already on the book, these “new” laws will only be enforced capriciously and sporatically, as the political coloration of the target changes.

Armed NRA members are regarded as MORE dangerous than armed gangbangers from Chicago. Yet, in a year’s time, how many persons die at the hands of gangbangers, and how many die at the hands of NRA members?


11 posted on 04/07/2013 1:14:26 PM PDT by alloysteel (Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.)
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To: opentalk

Retire already!


12 posted on 04/07/2013 1:14:34 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: Luke21
"Wouldn’t this Benedict Arnold have made a great president?"

I can't stand the SOB but I'd crawl on my hands and knees to vote for him over 0.

13 posted on 04/07/2013 1:15:27 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: opentalk
CFR - you didn't understand the Constitution.

Bill Cunningham - you didn't understand 0bama.

POWs - you didn't understand loyalty.

Steve Schmidt - you didn't understand conservatives.

ANWR - you didn't understand the Glowbull Warming hoax.

The only thing you understand, McCain, is money so go tell your pimp Soros that he's not paying you enough!

14 posted on 04/07/2013 1:15:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Third Person

“Senile, or liberal...”

___

or RINO A$$hole.


15 posted on 04/07/2013 1:15:31 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Third Person
Traitor.
16 posted on 04/07/2013 1:15:52 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: opentalk

McLame hasn’t understood a lot for many years now. I really believe we’re seeing the first signs of senility.


17 posted on 04/07/2013 1:16:00 PM PDT by bgill
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To: opentalk
I guess he doesn’t understand the Constitution either.
18 posted on 04/07/2013 1:16:13 PM PDT by lula ( What America needs is men of Character in congress, we have enough characters.)
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To: opentalk

ping


19 posted on 04/07/2013 1:16:50 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Fight the Leftist Gun Grabbers.
Support Free Republic.


20 posted on 04/07/2013 1:17:33 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: opentalk

What Juan McLame?????

You don’t understand why every GOP senator isn’t a traitor to this Nation?


21 posted on 04/07/2013 1:17:56 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: opentalk

“The purpose of the United States Senate is to debate and to vote and to let the people know where we stand.”

This is what’s wronge in DC


22 posted on 04/07/2013 1:18:14 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: opentalk

They put the school funding in there to get it passed....We’re not that stupid, John.


23 posted on 04/07/2013 1:18:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: opentalk

what a cuckoo bird. the filibuster IS part of the debate. I guess he thinks Harry Reid’s senate is some fantasy gathering of extraordinary gentlemen who are going to engage in honest debate.

he’s really making a fool of himself. does he ever see his scumball democrat friends criticize their own members?


24 posted on 04/07/2013 1:19:42 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: opentalk

“The purpose of the United States Senate is to debate and to vote and to let the people know where we stand.”


That sums up their arrogance and how far they’ve strayed.


25 posted on 04/07/2013 1:19:58 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: opentalk

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE retire.


26 posted on 04/07/2013 1:20:20 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: opentalk

Yes. I’m certain you don’t understand it, Juan.


27 posted on 04/07/2013 1:21:09 PM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them.)
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To: laplata

He clearly has no idea what ‘representative government’ means.


28 posted on 04/07/2013 1:21:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: clee1

I don’t understand why McCain doesn’t just change over to the Democrat party.
We sure do not need him as a Republican. It’s like trying to win a marathon with a broken leg.


29 posted on 04/07/2013 1:22:11 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: opentalk

That clown doesn’t ever fit the term RINO anymore. He has moved all the way to the wacko lib category.


30 posted on 04/07/2013 1:23:01 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: opentalk
12 GOP senators back Rand Paul on gun-control filibuster

… In addition to Paul, Lee, Cruz, Rubio and Moran, the Republican who have signed the second letter are Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, Richard Burr of North Carolina, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Mike Enzi of Wyoming, Jim Risch and Mike Crapo of Idaho, Dan Coats of Indiana and Pat Roberts of Kansas.

“We will oppose the motion to proceed on any legislation that will serve as a vehicle for any additional gun restrictions,” they write.

31 posted on 04/07/2013 1:23:33 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Luke21
Wouldn’t this Benedict Arnold have made a great president?

He made a great candidate, the only one they could find who simply couldn't challenge Obama's constitutional qualifications due to his own birth on foreign soil.

32 posted on 04/07/2013 1:23:53 PM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them.)
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To: opentalk

So, when can Palin challenge him in a primary?


33 posted on 04/07/2013 1:24:25 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: opentalk
Because we don't trust the senate to come to the correct solution for this country.
They are indeed supposed to debate and deliberate but are too often caught up in the crisis du jour and makes LAWS that are no better than what the media mob outside would have them do.

34 posted on 04/07/2013 1:25:22 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: opentalk

****Reid is planning to bring to the Senate floor this month legislation that would expand background checks,***

The law is not designed to prevent criminals from having guns.

It is designed to be so onerous that law abiding citizens will accidentally break the laws, be declared a felon, and the state can then move in and confiscate all their privately owned (now deemed illegal) guns.


35 posted on 04/07/2013 1:25:38 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: TigersEye

He clearly has no idea what ‘representative government’ means.


That’s right. And they’ve been compromised in so many ways that it’s harder and harder to even put up a front any longer.


36 posted on 04/07/2013 1:26:04 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: opentalk

The man is an idiot.


37 posted on 04/07/2013 1:26:12 PM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: opentalk
Its because of ass hats like you McNut that shi! happens. It is you we no longer trust. Go play with your friend King Obama.
38 posted on 04/07/2013 1:26:56 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: mongo141
or RINO A$$hole.

That would be RINO AzHole

39 posted on 04/07/2013 1:28:12 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: opentalk

Why do we even have to continue to endure the pontifications of this insane old f@rt?


40 posted on 04/07/2013 1:28:28 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: opentalk
dear sen,
please shut the hello up & retire!
& stop kissing the administration
puppets' collective @$$...
your an publicity whore

41 posted on 04/07/2013 1:28:46 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: alloysteel; Dutch Boy
What’s not to understand? This is how stampedes get headed off. The rush to get something, anything, on the books as a “solution” for gun violence, only to realize later that far more regulation is ALREADY inscribed in the old statutes and law codes, and not repealed, that is not today being enforced.

Passing “new” laws is about as ineffectual of a strategy that could be thought up, if, like the laws already on the book, these “new” laws will only be enforced capriciously and sporadically, as the political coloration of the target changes.

Armed NRA members are regarded as MORE dangerous than armed gangbangers from Chicago. Yet, in a year’s time, how many persons die at the hands of gangbangers, and how many die at the hands of NRA members?

Yep.

Dutch Boy said it best:

Pass a law that claims to protect the people but don’t enforce it. Demand that more restrictive laws be passed. Don’t enforce them either on criminals. Focus on minor infractions of the common citizen. Gradually as more and more laws are passed, the people lose the ability to protect themselves. More laws are demanded because there is little a common person could do to protect themselves. This time the laws evolve from restrictive to oppressive. Still nothing seems to work. Then the only remaining solution is complete confiscation.

42 posted on 04/07/2013 1:30:02 PM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them.)
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To: Third Person

Both.....


43 posted on 04/07/2013 1:30:22 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: Venturer
I don’t understand why McCain doesn’t just change over to the Democrat party.

He would lose seniority and thus influence which is all these people care about.

44 posted on 04/07/2013 1:30:57 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: opentalk

He has become the Mr. Magoo of the Senate, except not so innocent as the cartoon character.


45 posted on 04/07/2013 1:31:05 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: laplata

McCain is too stupid to hide his arrogance. Then again, most of the people are too stupid to know what’s arrogant about what he said.


46 posted on 04/07/2013 1:35:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: opentalk

mccain thinks we’re stupid enough to believe a rino politician’s not understanding why this filibuster is a good thing. he’s just offensive.


47 posted on 04/07/2013 1:36:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: opentalk

“I don’t understand it,” said McCain

This character’s so senile he doesn’t understand how to tie his shoes.

The purpose of the senate is most definitely NOT to let the people see where they stand - it’s to represent the people of the United States, something they haven’t done in twenty years.


48 posted on 04/07/2013 1:36:20 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: opentalk

A man who was held as a POW doesn’t understand why we want to keep our civil liberties?

Seriously?

Go home John. And stay there and never show your face again.


49 posted on 04/07/2013 1:36:26 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: opentalk
Hey McCain, "shall not be infringed" shouldn't he hard for even you to understand.
50 posted on 04/07/2013 1:37:52 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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