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Vanity: Shortage of Farm Workers?...
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Posted on 04/14/2013 1:34:09 PM PDT by kas7351

I just watched the local news here in Tampa. They had a segment stating that we have a shortage of workers to work the farms. They interviewed the owner of a strawberry farm and he mentioned that due to the shortage of immigrants being allowed to enter this country, he doesn't have enough workers.

Guess the people on unemployment or that have dropped out of the workforce are too good to pick strawberries? Guess they would rather get the handouts!


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; farms; farmworkers; illegals; unemployment; vanity
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To: kas7351

I agree with you.

I think a good many people have run out of “benefits” and for whatever reason they haven’t found work.

Some are dispirited. Others “over qualified” (45 and older), etc.

It’s like this; try getting getting a job at Google. Chances are if you are under 35 you stand at least a chance. If you are 40+, fat chance.

I’m not employable. Got my own businesses and hated every boss I ever had, save two.


81 posted on 04/14/2013 4:15:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: kas7351

You might want to be very cautious about rounding up folks. Sets a very bad taste in the mouth of most ‘free’ folks.

http://www.cbc.ca/history/EPISCONTENTSE1EP13CH2PA2LE.html

“In their ragged platoons, here are the prospective members of what Marx called the ‘industrial reserve army, the storm troopers of the revolution.’”

“In those bunkhouses,” Liversedge wrote, “There were more men reading Marx, Lenin and Stalin than there were reading girlie magazines.”


82 posted on 04/14/2013 4:22:06 PM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: kas7351

Official 7.6% unemployment, real unemployment 16-20% , youth unemployment 25% nearly 1000 million out of the work force , 30-40 million illegal immigrants in country and a farmer can’t find ANYONE to pick strawberries?

Hard to believe.

Perhaps he should try paying a little more


83 posted on 04/14/2013 4:33:47 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: kas7351

>>he doesn’t have enough workers. [to pick strawberries]

Boohoo for him. Maybe he should refactor his business model to produce strawberries using a less labor-exploitive methodology:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=aquaponic+strawberries


84 posted on 04/14/2013 4:39:49 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: mountainlion
"This title is repulsive, It is wrong to degrade short farm workers."

Don't worry. They'll be back shortly.

85 posted on 04/14/2013 4:43:06 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: TArcher

Yeah, the farmers probably do need to reinvent their business.

The point with this thread is that we the people as a general statement are happy with handouts and not wanting to work, we let the illegals come in and work when we should be working.


86 posted on 04/14/2013 4:45:36 PM PDT by kas7351
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To: cripplecreek

Keep any farmers from hiring illegals and they’ll all be able to afford American workers. Also, there will be more innovation in farm technology, just as there has been in other industries where we haven’t relied on cheap immigrant labor.

Lots of this work is very seasonal, and enterprising employers could do a good job luring college students with something of a spring break atmosphere, for example.

Local teens could also do a lot of the work, as they have done in the past.


87 posted on 04/14/2013 4:50:22 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ICCtheWay
The situation has to do with pay - and it always has... Farmers, assembly line factory owners, contruction owners - only want to pay the WAGE BUSTING price created by hiring illegal aliens. It has been proven time and again - if the pay is enough for an American to live a 1st. World lifestyle instead of 6 families to a house 3rd. World style then American workers will take the jobs... Every other excuse is a lie ...

Well said.

88 posted on 04/14/2013 4:58:16 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Conserev1

Yes to all of your points.

I have a friend who does workers comp and she explained something about this “bucket” that employees have paid into.

I’m going to call her tomorrow and get clarification.


89 posted on 04/14/2013 5:01:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Blue Ink
My choice was bid from an American who wanted to overcharge me versus another reasonably priced American company that certainly hired immigrants — but they weren’t necessarily illegal. Ever been to California? Everybody speaks some Spanish.

After getting the second estimate from the criminal organization, you could have come back to the blonde guy and counter offered. Plus your story is BS.

90 posted on 04/14/2013 5:06:20 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kas7351

>>we let the illegals come in and work when we should be working.

2 Thess 3:10
"...If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

The record Corn yields putting cheap/empty calories into the gullets of the idle, morbidly obese, and diabetic McSheeple  will only last as long as the water; and the drought that created the NE Sand-hills lasted several HUNDRED years.  

The appetite of tyranny is never far removed from the tyranny of the appetite.

91 posted on 04/14/2013 5:15:08 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: kas7351

I can’t believe the jerks living in this country are too good to pick their own damn strawberries. Oh oh. I feel a Captina Queeg comin’ on. LOL!


92 posted on 04/14/2013 5:17:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: Blue Ink

. Ever been to California? Everybody speaks some Spanish.
***I have lived in California all my life. I compete against these illegals.

My point was Americans in the construction trades overcharge. Immigrants do good work for less money.
***It is the ILLEGAL immigrants who generate the girding that the supposedly legal immigrants build upon to compete against legal & legitimate american wage earners.

Are you saying you would have gone with the forty grand bid to get your roof done?
***Are you saying that you’d be willing to be named in a RICO lawsuit that generates treble damages? If so, how do we reach you?

from my homepage:

___________________________________________________________________

Whenever an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or something similar, here’s what I recommend:
What can we do about it? Here’s my standard post.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Here’s what I’ve been pushing: it’s time to file Racketeering, Influencing, and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) lawsuits.

RICO lawyers could turn it around in a few years and MAKE MONEY at the same time. I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.

In the absence of enforcement, we can get the word out in the meantime that there is money to be made in filing RICO lawsuits against employers who hire illegal aliens like this jerk.

Employers would have no trouble shutting down the border if they could get sued by someone under the RICO statutes for hiring these people in the first place. The next time an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or somesuch thing, I’m going to point out that the victim’s family might be able to seek compensation from the employer under these statutes in the hopes that it would catch on. If this did catch on, would see such a swift backlash against illegal immigration that no employer would go near these people and they’ll all simply want to go back home.



93 posted on 04/14/2013 5:42:44 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Not a problem the State seizes all your buisiness assets if an illegal is in your Employ>
simple to the point! Add a $500.00 bounty! Done deal!


94 posted on 04/14/2013 7:38:45 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Kevmo

What on earth are you talking about? While the reasonably priced roofers were most probably immigrants, there’s no evidence to suggest they were here illegally. They weren’t hired off the street. They were employees of a reputable licensed and bonded company.

Are you suggesting it’s incumbent on citizens to check the immigration papers of all employees when paying a business for service? Do you check the immigration status of the McDonald’s cashier with the Spanish accent who sells you a burger? The busboy who clears your plate? How about at Walmart? If not, then you’re a hypocrite.

And this business of involuntarily deputizing employers to perform LAW ENFORCEMENT duties — i.e., checking an employee’s immigration status — is an outrageous — and probably illegal under the Constitution — imposition on the citizenry. It’s not my business to determine whether someone is legally in the country, it’s one of the few things government should be doing. And they won’t, so I have to? What nonsense.

You’re mad at me because an American thought he could trade on his blond hair and patriotism to sucker me into overpaying for work. The immigrants did it cheaper. They were probably immigrants because they spoke Spanish. But there is no evidence — none — they were here illegally.

Do you also think employers should be forced to investigate tax returns and garnish wages for the IRS under threat of jail? How about child support payments?

What a solution. You want to make criminals of employers because they won’t “voluntarily” do the government’s job and enforce immigration laws. You want to prosecute your fellow citizens using statutes aimed at the organized crime. Brilliant.


95 posted on 04/14/2013 8:28:01 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: rdcbn

Does he list the jobs on Craigs List?


96 posted on 04/14/2013 8:44:42 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: kas7351
Some of the soaring crime rates in CA falls squarely on the federal government. They have required CA to reduce "overcrowded" prisons by releasing criminals on the street. Many of the newly released criminals did what they do best...robbing, raping, killing...within hours of release. The judges responsible should be incarcerated for the very crimes they enabled. They are accessories to the crimes.
97 posted on 04/14/2013 10:54:36 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: kas7351

Eliminate welfare and food stamps and there will be all the farm workers you could want!


98 posted on 04/14/2013 11:02:08 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

I agree to eliminate them after a period of time. Nobody should make welfare as a lifestyle.


99 posted on 04/15/2013 4:46:28 AM PDT by kas7351
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To: kas7351

How can there be a shortage of any type of unskilled labor in a country that has 12 million unemployed and another 5 million on welfare?


100 posted on 04/15/2013 4:53:56 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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